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marvsbbq
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PostPosted: Jun 19 2007    Post subject: I knew he was an amateur when.... Reply with quote

he said he BOILED his ribs prior to smoking... Laughing Laughing Laughing

Last friday we catered a college graduation party and a gentleman from CO came by to 'check out' my smoker. He said he has FOUR smokers himself but only cooks for family and friends.

My first inclination was when he said he smokes a 150 pound hog in THREE hours and to an internal temp of ONLY 140 degrees and the meat just FELL OFF THE BONE. Laughing Laughing Laughing

Later he came back by talking about his 'fall off the bone' ribs that he BOILED first.. Laughing Laughing I gave him the 'ole 'skull and cross bones' sign when he told me that.

I guess it 'ain't no wonder' he only cooks for family and friends...no one else would HIRE his butt.. Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Jun 19 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a guy give me his "secret" recipe for brisket once. It consisted of him wrapping the brisket completely in foil and then smoking it.

I kind of snickered and wondered why he didnt just put it in his oven. That smoke is going to have a hard time getting through that foil. What a waste of wood and charcoal.
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PostPosted: Jun 19 2007    Post subject: Boiling Reply with quote

Sometimes Marv people open mouth and remove all dought Wink
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PostPosted: Jun 19 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marv,
Did you ask the guy if he was from Wisconsin??

That is how most do it around here, Scary stuff!
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2007    Post subject: Foil and smoker. Reply with quote

Well at least he didn't wrap the Brisket in foil, put in oven and then add some wood chunks for smoke. I think that's how they do it in Iowa Wink
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

But that is how I do it. what's wrong with that?
Surprised Very Happy Laughing Embarassed

Couldn't resist.

Take care,

Brian
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2007    Post subject: Re: Foil and smoker. Reply with quote

Bucksnort101 wrote:
Well at least he didn't wrap the Brisket in foil, put in oven and then add some wood chunks for smoke. I think that's how they do it in Iowa Wink


My new partner on my BBQ team is from Iowa. I am passing this gem on to him.

I imagine next time I go over to his house he will have a rack of ribs still in the cryovac still on his counter with a log sitting on top of them. Just waiting for them to get done.
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harry Nutczak wrote:
Marv,
Did you ask the guy if he was from Wisconsin??

Or Illinois, I know people who claim boiling the ribs is the secret....then they taste mine Twisted Evil Cool
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2007    Post subject: Mmmm, smoked foil. Reply with quote

Never tried smoked aluminum foil, can't taste much better than un-smoked version, texture is probably about the same I would imagine.
I guess I can't be too critical of Iowegians, many Minnesotan's seem to think Lutefisk is a delicacy.
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have cooked baby back ribs in a crock pot with pineapple juice and then finished them on the grill.

Are they BBQ? Not even close but they taste good and that's all that matters when they hit my mouth.

It does hack me off when I go to a restuarant that talks about how great their BBQ is and then I get a plate of boiled ribs. There are two I know of in Oklahoma that do that. One is in Healdton and the other is in Maysville.
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2007    Post subject: Where Reply with quote

Where you at in Oklahoma??
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right in the middle..... East OKC

But I own a cabin at Springer (Near Ardmore). That's how I found the places I mentioned above.
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

CULTOFNOBODY
HAVE YOU TRIED THE BLUE PIG AT THE GENE AUTRY AIRPARK. I HAVE NOT TRIED IT BUT EVERYONE SAYS ITS REALLY GOOD
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Have not tried it yet. I just found it in the phone book a few weeks ago. I'll go and try it next time I'm down there and post a review.
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew he was a amateur when....

when he broke out the charcoal lighter fluid and fired up his pit with that stuff...could smell it before I looked to see who was using it... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

What an amateur! Boiling ribs, hah! Everybody knows all us pros use a pressure cooker! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about a toaster oven? At least it is easy to control the temp, and you don't have to spend all that time outside enjoying the weather and neighbors, man that always bugs me! Laughing
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think i would rather have boiled rather than smoked, frozen, then microwaved to a nice rubbery finish as some reasturants around okc do! hey cultofnobody have you ever had steves ribs at hefner and rockwell they actually have a REAL smoker in their kitchen and a pile of hickory or oak in the dinning room and the food the closest thing to my q that i have found in quality in a reasturant
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

all you guys are cracking me up!!
That would make a great t-shirt, You know you are having bad BBQ When:
In an oven with wood chips!!
On the counter with a log on top!!
The coleslaw is grass clippings with mayonaisse

too flippin funny!!

Lutefisk!!! OMFG!! that is the nastiest thing I think anyone could possibly eat!!

Many of the churches around here do a Lutefisk dinner once a year. for anyone that is not familar with lutefisk, it is a Norwegian/Swede thing. a heavy amount of our population up here . the U.P. of MI, and in Minnesota is all remnants of the norwegian immigrant loggers from way back when.

it is cod that is cured in Lye, (Sodium hydroxide like red-devil lye you see at the hardware store) salted & dried to preserve it. Then it is rehydrated heated and served several years later. by the smell and tatste (I have not been brave enough to taste it ever) you would swear it was not preserved, but left to rot for those years instead.

I have smelled a 1,500 pound load of spoiled bait that did not smell as bad as lutefisk being cooked!

I am thinking about putting lutefisk on my menu now!! NOT!!!
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

cultofnobody wrote:
It does hack me off when I go to a restuarant that talks about how great their BBQ is and then I get a plate of boiled ribs.

Hi,

Most restaurants around here (Western-ish NC) usually braise (not boil) to cook through and to tenderize, refrigerate, then grill to order at the point of sale--it's as efficient business process that reduces cook time, equipment requirements, and man-hours. As with anything, the efficiency comes at a cost to the consumer, in this case natural smoke flavor. Any smoke flavor you do get usually comes from the glaze, which has "smoke flavor" added. The quick grilling process also adds that classic char-grilled BBQ flavor most people expect from BBQ.

Truth be told, when we use the 3-2-1 method for preparing ribs (which I do regularly), we are doing our own sort of braising using foil and the natural juices of the meat combined some other form of liquid such as apple juice, broth, or even just water. Unless the cook actually fully submerges ribs in a pot of boiling water, the process of adding the smoke flavor is the only real difference between the methods. Granted, there is a big flavor difference if you're a BBQ addict and know what a great rack of ribs should taste like, but honestly, most folks don't notice it.

Restaurant ribs are never as good as homemade, smoked ribs, but then again I've never had a burger "out" that was better than the homemade variety either. Very Happy
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