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mitch68ca
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PostPosted: Jun 09 2007    Post subject: Newbie question: Brisket times Reply with quote

I'm making my first brisket (about 4 lbs) in my Bradley smoker on Monday but I have a question about cooking times.

Looking at the Bradley website they suggest smoking for 4 hours and then continuing the cook for an additional 6 hours (10 total).

In SMOKE & SPICE they suggest about 5 hours total, 3 hours of smoke and then foil wrap and put it back for 2 more hours.

Which is right?

Also, dumb question but, is there a good way to cook it early and then reheat it?

Thanks everyone,

Mitch in Toronto
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PostPosted: Jun 09 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are so many different ways to end up with a good finished product.

But a few main rules are,

Cook it between 225 & 245, until you have an internal temperature of 195.

I would follow your Bradley procedures, but start checking temperatures at hour number 3, 10-hours seems excessive for such a small brisket.

You do have a nice instant read thermometer, right? if not get one because it will be your best freind.

We want some pictures when it is done though.
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PostPosted: Jun 09 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Harry.

I'm actually out to buy a new thermometer tomorrow. My old one stopped working. I was planning on getting a wireless one and leaving the probe in through the whole process.

If I aim for 10 hours and after say, 6 hours it's done, what's the best way to reheat it for serving?

Mitch
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PostPosted: Jun 10 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

mitch68ca wrote:
Thanks Harry.

what's the best way to reheat it for serving?

Mitch


To not re-heat it, but to hold it hot instead.

Wrap it in foil while still hot, pack it in a cooler with towels on the bottom, top & sides to hold it hot. The resting period will also do wonders for making it tender & Juicy.
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PostPosted: Jun 10 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cook at 225 and untill 195 internal no matter what the time. Should take about 1- 1 1/2 hours per pound.
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PostPosted: Jun 11 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alien BBQ wrote:
Cook at 225 and untill 195 internal no matter what the time. Should take about 1- 1 1/2 hours per pound.


It seems to take me longer, even monitoring both grate and meat tmeperature; more like 1.75/lb., so plan on wrapping it up two hours before serving time. Having at least a 30 minute rest will make the meat much better. It gives the juices time to redistribute back within the meat.

Somewhere around 160-165F, the temperature will stop rising for at least an hour. This is normal, don't worry about it. The meat is breaking down and getting tender. As a newbie smoker, I just "knew" something was wrong, and it's very unnerving, but just stick with the program and eventually, the internal temps will start to rise again.

Enjoy!

Jack

Edit - I've always left my brisket on the grates the whole time, fat cap side down, without flipping or wrapping, until I am ready rest it in the cooler.
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PostPosted: Jun 11 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

My method for doing briskets is similar to the others mentioned in here.

What I try to do is this, start smoker get it up to 225-250* for about 30-45 minutes before putting the meat on. Put the briskets on (fat side down) and allow them to run up to 170* (internal temp in the thickest part of the flat). Then I pull the brisket and wrap in foil and allow it to climb to 197-200* in the foil. Once it hits that temp I remove it from the smoker and into a cooler still in the foil wrapped in towels for 1-2 hours. Pull it out and slice away, juicy, tender, delicious brisket.


Good luck with your cook!!!
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PostPosted: Jun 11 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, fat side down? I thought you wanted the fat cap up so that as the fat 'melted' it kept the brisket moist? A lot of conflicting information to wade through for someone starting out. Thankfully, so far anyway, all my experimentations have been VERY tasty and I'm having a blast doing it all.

I just finished putting the rub on the brisket. Wrapped it in saran and back in to the fridge. I plan on putting it in the Bradley around 10am for an 8pm dinner. I figure that way, even if it takes a full 10 hours ( 2 1/4 kg (5 lbs)) I can let it rest for 30 min. before we get to the main course.

I will absolutely report back on my success or lack of!

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PostPosted: Jun 11 2007    Post subject: Fat side up or down? Everyone has an opinion... Reply with quote

You'll hear both ways and find threads on most forums about it. I cook mine up simply because that's the way my Dad taught me 40 years ago and I'm comfortable with that way... On that small of a brisket, I would think and hour to an hour and a quarter per pound will probably get you there. Wrapping will speed the process slightly. You'll also find many opinions on whether to wrap or not. I bet it'll turn out great. tom r
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PostPosted: Jun 11 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if everyone can't tell, I'm very excited for tomorrow. My wife will tell you, I've been walking around with my copy of Smoke & Spice that just arrived Friday and constantly going out and looking at the smoker all weekend!!

I wasn't going to mention it Tom, but I had been thinking about wrapping but I'm not sure. I'm using a Bradley electric smoker and from what I've been reading, the electrics tend to keep the brisket moister which was my reason for wrapping. We'll see. If I do wrap, I'll likely mop it with a vinegar mop when I do it.

The only other time I made a brisket it was on my gas grill. That time I mopped every hour or so while it was cooking but I never wrapped. The brisket turned out excellent.

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PostPosted: Jun 11 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey bro good luck with your brisket let us know how it turns out. Good Times BBq Cool

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PostPosted: Jun 13 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow!! That was excellent! Thanks for the advice everyone!!

7 1/2 hour cook time @ 250*.

After about 4 hours I stopped the smoke and maybe I shouldn't have (hickory with a little bit of cherry).

At 160* I wrapped it and gave it a quick mop.

At 198* I pulled it out wrapped it in a few more layers of foil followed by towels and then in to a soft sided cooler.

Took it out of the cooler 3 hours later and it was still steaming hot.

Five guests, one five pound brisket and homemade BBQ sauce, no leftovers. Even my one guest who was reluctant because she hates the 'smoke' taste loved it. Interestingly to me, the brisket had the texture of good corned beef.

I made some cornbread to go with it but had to make it dairy free. I used Nutriwhip which is a non-dairy whip cream substitute. It worked out very well. Soft and moist a little sweet and delicious.

My only question, is what can I do to make the brisket a little more moist next time. It wasn't really dry, just not moist not that you would notice once you added some of the BBQ sauce.

Thanks everyone, I can't wait for the next one!!!
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PostPosted: Jun 13 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you wrap it, add 1/2 cup of apple juice or beef stock to the foil, and this will keep moisture in and around the brisket.

Also if you cook a full packer instead of just a flat, they tend to stay moister because there is greater moisture in it before you start, and it will shrink less while cooking.
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PostPosted: Jun 14 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure what a packer is. I cooked what my butcher calls a double brisket.

I'll be sure to add more liquid next time.

Thanks!!!

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PostPosted: Jun 14 2007    Post subject: brisket Reply with quote

A packer has the point still attached and thats all I smoke because I luvs me some burnt ends give it a try I think you'll be pleasantly suprised!!
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, I use a kosher butcher and sometimes the cuts have different names. I talked to my butcher and I basically have three choices, a single brisket, a double or a whole brisket.

The whole would be the double on top of the single (not cut off). If I understand correctly, the grain on the two run opposite each other which is why they seperate them.

Would a packer be a whole brisket?

Does any of this make sense?

Mitch
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2007    Post subject: brisket Reply with quote

YES!!
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent!!!!

Ok, today is just a single brisket because I ordered to late and wasn't sure on the whole packer thing. Next week a packer and I'll be sure to report back.

Thanks everyone!!
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inject it with Jack and EVOO for a really moist brisket.
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