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Diamond D'z Newbie

Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 86 Location: FLORENCE, KY
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Posted: Apr 30 2007 Post subject: Becoming a caterer - Kitchen |
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While I have utilized everyones help on here and getting ready to ramp up to go into business, I have a question regarding prep kitchen.
I know that most caterers have a building that have at least a HD inspected kitchen. I do not have a building at the moment and am basically starting off small with hopes of growing it over time. Eventually I will have a kitchen other than my home.
Any tips on preping at home, IE: Meat Prep, side preps, etc....
ANYone been given any grief from the HD on this?
Since most of the cooking is done on site - smoking, grilling, frying - is it necessary to have a seperate kitchen off site (not at home)? Can anyone shed some light on this subject? _________________ DIAMOND D'Z BBQ Catering & Entertainment Svcs
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DawgPhan BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 3444
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Posted: Apr 30 2007 Post subject: |
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| probably depends on the local rules, but I know around here you cant use your home as your prep kitchen...many of the folks around here do everything on site so they dont have to worry about that. |
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mutha chicken bbq BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 2225 Location: newark,de
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Posted: Apr 30 2007 Post subject: |
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Diamond D'z,
I am in the process of obtaining a license also. I have had too many people come to me in the last 2 weeks without me trying and I have a wedding for 270 people, A 60th birthday party and another family party from total strangers who have tried my cooking. So back to your question.
In my state reguardless, You have to have a commercially aproved kitchen. Inspected by the Health Dept. I would check with the local board.
I am attempting to latch onto a resturaunt, but have yet to get someone to sign on. I have heard on this forum to check with local VFW's or churches. Let me know if you discover another avenue. _________________ The only thing consistant in BBQ is, it is always the Judges fault!
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Diamond D'z Newbie

Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 86 Location: FLORENCE, KY
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Posted: May 01 2007 Post subject: |
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I guess in theory - you could do everything on site and maybe start off finding a local person to custom make your beans, slaw, potato salad etc..??? At least for now? As far as the latching onto someones kitchen....good idea as I was approached this weekend to "help" a local bar & restaurant to help with their smoking. They have a guy that smokes all of the meat in front of the bar but for large parties and festivals they asked me to help. Maybe I can gain access to his kitchen in time. _________________ DIAMOND D'Z BBQ Catering & Entertainment Svcs
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marvsbbq BBQ All Star

Joined: 15 May 2005 Posts: 6186
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Posted: May 01 2007 Post subject: |
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Depends on what you are going to offer. If you are going to try and make everyting (sides) from scratch....you WILL need a kitchen as most will need to be made at least the day ahead of time..
For the sides I offer (and there are many, check my webiste) the ONLY thing I make ahead of time is my beans due to the fact the flavors need to 'meld' prior to cooking...IMO.
I do buy pre-made potato salad just due to the time involved in the making of that. But I add additional spices to the comerical salad to 'make it my own'
EVERYTHING else I make ON SITE so no comercial kitchen is needed. ALso, if you have to use a comercial kitchen you not only have to pay for that PLUS your time in making the product....all takes away from your profit from the event.
The more you can keep your overhead down....the more $$$ you net. _________________ Often imitated but never duplicated |
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mutha chicken bbq BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 2225 Location: newark,de
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Posted: May 01 2007 Post subject: |
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| marvsbbq wrote: | Depends on what you are going to offer. If you are going to try and make everyting (sides) from scratch....you WILL need a kitchen as most will need to be made at least the day ahead of time..
For the sides I offer (and there are many, check my webiste) the ONLY thing I make ahead of time is my beans due to the fact the flavors need to 'meld' prior to cooking...IMO.
I do buy pre-made potato salad just due to the time involved in the making of that. But I add additional spices to the comerical salad to 'make it my own'
EVERYTHING else I make ON SITE so no comercial kitchen is needed. ALso, if you have to use a comercial kitchen you not only have to pay for that PLUS your time in making the product....all takes away from your profit from the event.
The more you can keep your overhead down....the more $$$ you net. |
Tried to state that to my HD and was shot down on site! Mabey i didn't state it the right way. but the HD guy was real short and to the point with me like I was intruding on his day by even asking. Go figure _________________ The only thing consistant in BBQ is, it is always the Judges fault!
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Purple Haze Newbie

Joined: 08 Jan 2007 Posts: 89 Location: Richmond, VA
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Posted: May 01 2007 Post subject: |
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Tried to state that to my HD and was shot down on site! Mabey i didn't state it the right way. but the HD guy was real short and to the point with me like I was intruding on his day by even asking. Go figure[/quote]
I feel your pain. I have been shot down twice before. On the first time, I was an innocent virgin; however, the second I was stupid and deserved it. I have found that you need a working relationship with the HD. That way you don't see them as cops and they don't stereotype you as a suspect. The successful caterers I've seen know the HD agents by name and talk to them frequently. No different than the IRS, some HD agents want to help you succeed and others just live on the power.
Anyway, here HD also prohibits home use for anything. I am currently trying to find a commissary to kick off my bbq catering. I'm working with very good leads right now but until then its been burgers and dogs onsite for profit while cue'n for kicks (with sides) at cost.
After finding this site my excuses for my stupidity have vanished.  |
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sseige BBQ Fan
Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 372 Location: Bay City MI
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Posted: May 01 2007 Post subject: |
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I use my local Church for a home base even though I dont use it much. I do a few fund raisers for them that I donate a portion of the profits to the fund or funds involved. I also work with the youth Minister employing some of the kids on the events that I go to. The youth ministries prepay my entrance fees for the year upon the completion of the event they get the deposit back 3-6 Kids are employed for 4-5 days they get work experience good pay and a work reference from me. When they get a taste of the hard work and long hours required to complete an event only the hard workers come back for seconds I then put them in charge of the new crew, I have had a few make it the whole summer  _________________ Rusty Saw Smokehouse BBQ
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G's BBQ BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 1641 Location: NV
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Posted: May 01 2007 Post subject: |
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| Cook everything on site and that solves the problem in most state...In nevada even with a mobile kitchen I still have to have a commisary even though I dont do anything there. My kitchen is better equipped. and I pick up my food the day before or day of... You cant cook anything at home...With some very simple equipment you can do everything on-site and for certain side you can purchase those.... |
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marvsbbq BBQ All Star

Joined: 15 May 2005 Posts: 6186
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Posted: May 01 2007 Post subject: |
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| sseige wrote: | I use my local Church for a home base even though I dont use it much. I do a few fund raisers for them that I donate a portion of the profits to the fund or funds involved. I also work with the youth Minister employing some of the kids on the events that I go to. The youth ministries prepay my entrance fees for the year upon the completion of the event they get the deposit back 3-6 Kids are employed for 4-5 days they get work experience good pay and a work reference from me. When they get a taste of the hard work and long hours required to complete an event only the hard workers come back for seconds I then put them in charge of the new crew, I have had a few make it the whole summer  |
Just curious, is your local church an APPROVED kitchen by the HD??? I only ask because MOST are not just due to the cost(s) involved to bring it up to local code. If your church does not know if they are approved or not, you can call the HD, they can tell you if it is or not. If a church is using their kitchen for their own events, they do NOT need to be approved by the HD. If they rent, loan or use their kitchen for any other purpose, the MUST be approved by the HD.... Just an FYI. _________________ Often imitated but never duplicated |
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sseige BBQ Fan
Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 372 Location: Bay City MI
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Posted: May 01 2007 Post subject: |
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Yes Marv I lucked out they are fully approved by the HD if I cook for the Church and serve the public I have to get an event permit for $30. If I cook under my name at the Church I have a STFU (SPECIAL TRANSITORY FOOD UNIT) license that covers event fees for the year with 6 month inspections. _________________ Rusty Saw Smokehouse BBQ
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allsmokenofire BBQ All Star

Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Posts: 5051 Location: Oklahoma
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Posted: May 01 2007 Post subject: |
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| sseige wrote: | | a STFU (SPECIAL TRANSITORY FOOD UNIT) license |
I always thought "STFU" stood for something else.
I guess you CAN teach an old dog new tricks.  _________________ Mike
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sseige BBQ Fan
Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 372 Location: Bay City MI
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Posted: May 01 2007 Post subject: |
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I thought the HD was pulling my leg when they recommended the license  _________________ Rusty Saw Smokehouse BBQ
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marvsbbq BBQ All Star

Joined: 15 May 2005 Posts: 6186
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Posted: May 01 2007 Post subject: |
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Here in WA state, if you are a licesened caterer, you do not need to pay extra for a permit to cook at a 'public' event. You just need to let them know ahead of time so they know where to come to INSPECT you. By law, if the event is open to the public, (not invited guests) they have to inspect. _________________ Often imitated but never duplicated |
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