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Soapm BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 06 Aug 2010 Posts: 2087 Location: Mile High City
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Posted: Aug 18 2010 Post subject: |
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I think I may have it working better, I sealed up the crack and lit her up and though the temp gage reads slightly over 225° I can't touch the grill. Both sides of the cooking chamber is too hot to touch.
I also stuck a meat thermometer into one of the rotisserie holes and it immediately went off the scale (above 220°) around to the 0 and started climbing again before I pulled it out. I think I'm way over what the gage is reading.
Lastly, there is a aluminum pan in bottom of the grill with the grease from my only cook. That grease is sizzling and popping away so I poured water in the pan (I know, dumb idea) and that grease splatted all over the place. Luckily I had the door open just slightly so I was able to slam it shut.
My new temp gage should be here soon so I think round two will be this weekend... Thanks for all the help guys (and/or gals). |
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KAKid BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 30 Oct 2009 Posts: 1454 Location: Huron, South Dakota
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Posted: Aug 19 2010 Post subject: |
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| Soapm wrote: | I think I may have it working better, I sealed up the crack and lit her up and though the temp gage reads slightly over 225° I can't touch the grill. Both sides of the cooking chamber is too hot to touch.
I also stuck a meat thermometer into one of the rotisserie holes and it immediately went off the scale (above 220°) around to the 0 and started climbing again before I pulled it out. I think I'm way over what the gage is reading. |
Hmmm, feast or famine temp-wise.
Rutland is good stuff but that is cement and may harden and become brittle. I put this on when I added the SFB but I made an adjustment and a few small leaks appeared so I added some around the seam. I'll see if paint will adhere to it after it cures.
While I was at it, I changed out the front shelf just for grins.
 _________________ I was taught to respect my elders. It's just getting harder to find them.
Chargriller Outlaw w/SFB and Mods
Pair of UDS's
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Soapm BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 06 Aug 2010 Posts: 2087 Location: Mile High City
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Posted: Aug 19 2010 Post subject: |
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I initially started to go get RTV for engines. I should have stayed with my first start.
I got my new temp gauges today which is just in time. I got the side by the firebox up to 360° then closed the damper half way. The other side with the analogue thermometer said just over 250° but not 275°. Nothing was in it but the grates and the dryer duct mod so it was expected though not that extreme.
The damper has been closed half way for about 45 minutes now and the grill seems to have settled at 315° on the side by the firebox. I will see what inverting the cooking chambers ash grill next time to see what that does. |
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Cory Hess BBQ Fan

Joined: 03 Jun 2010 Posts: 240 Location: Twin Lakes, WI
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Posted: Aug 19 2010 Post subject: |
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KAKid: That RTV is silicone, paint won't stick to it. I used the cement, it gets brittle but there isn't too much stress on any of the points I put it on so it hasn't been an issue so far. As long as you have the SFB secured to the cooking chamber I don't see the bead around the joint being under too much stress.
Soapm: Flip that ashtray over, empty that drip pan and fill it with water, and get some HD aluminum foil and run it between the ashtray and the opening to the SFB. This should even your temps quite a bit with little effort and no cost. _________________ UDS
"Tact is the art of making a point without making an enemy." |
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patruns BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 3193 Location: Long Island, New York
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Posted: Aug 20 2010 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I will see what inverting the cooking chambers ash grill next time to see what that does. |
This is a major source of your uneven temps. You need the heat to flow fairly evenly under the charcoal pan. Putting a baffle or some aluminum foil between the SFB opening and the pan should help as well. I have not tried that yet and with just the pan flipped I have about a 20-25 degree different from each side. That's small enough as I can rotate if the grill is fairly full. I also usually put a disposable lasagna pan of boiling on the pan in the center, under the grill one up to temp. The disposable can be bent to follow the inverted curve of the pan, but that is simply my preference. I think it helps hold the temps a little when I open the door to move things. _________________ Pat
Char-Griller Outlaw with SFB
Weber Smokey Joe
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fxpose Newbie
Joined: 12 Jul 2010 Posts: 76 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Aug 20 2010 Post subject: |
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I have the Patio Pro where I fabricated a set of legs for table top use. It's a nifty little grill.
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Soapm BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 06 Aug 2010 Posts: 2087 Location: Mile High City
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Posted: Aug 20 2010 Post subject: |
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| fxpose wrote: | | I have the Patio Pro where I fabricated a set of legs for table top use. It's a nifty little grill. |
The SFB comes with a set of legs that look just like that. I would have sent you mine. I don't plan to use them. |
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fxpose Newbie
Joined: 12 Jul 2010 Posts: 76 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Aug 20 2010 Post subject: |
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| Soapm wrote: | | fxpose wrote: | | I have the Patio Pro where I fabricated a set of legs for table top use. It's a nifty little grill. |
The SFB comes with a set of legs that look just like that. I would have sent you mine. I don't plan to use them. |
Thank you, but aren't they more like brackets to keep the SFB from sagging? |
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patruns BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 3193 Location: Long Island, New York
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fxpose Newbie
Joined: 12 Jul 2010 Posts: 76 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Aug 20 2010 Post subject: |
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Wow, that tabletop model must be a recent addition. That particular tabletop model was not part of their lineup when I made my conversion 2 years ago...
Two years ago I posted pics of my conversion at another bbq forum where a lot of Char Grillers mainly hang out with their extensive conversions. Very interesting....
Here's that post:
http://www.barbecuebible.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=16095&highlight= |
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KAKid BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 30 Oct 2009 Posts: 1454 Location: Huron, South Dakota
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Posted: Aug 20 2010 Post subject: |
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I got my SFB at Menards about 2 months ago. The instructions that came with it are for the table top model and came with the legs. But the CG box it came in clearly stated it could also be used as a SFB (it had the football punchout), which is why I got it. The box has already been recycled so no pics of it.
fxpose: Nice job on the leg fabrication.  _________________ I was taught to respect my elders. It's just getting harder to find them.
Chargriller Outlaw w/SFB and Mods
Pair of UDS's
10 gal CI Chili/Jambalaya pot
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Soapm BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 06 Aug 2010 Posts: 2087 Location: Mile High City
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Posted: Aug 20 2010 Post subject: |
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| KAKid wrote: | I got my SFB at Menards about 2 months ago. The instructions that came with it are for the table top model and came with the legs. But the CG box it came in clearly stated it could also be used as a SFB (it had the football punchout), which is why I got it. The box has already been recycled so no pics of it.
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This is how mine came. Maybe it's a recent change in the product line. |
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patruns BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 3193 Location: Long Island, New York
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Posted: Aug 20 2010 Post subject: |
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I think it is a recent change. Mine was strictly a SFB when I bought it last year.....
BTW, didn't go together real good then either. I wonder if they have fixed the rotisserie issues with the SFB yet.  _________________ Pat
Char-Griller Outlaw with SFB
Weber Smokey Joe
Weber Q 220
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Swinefellas BBQ Fan
Joined: 20 Aug 2010 Posts: 116 Location: Nashville
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Posted: Aug 20 2010 Post subject: |
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I used my char griller for about 3 years, it was really hard to regulate the temps once it got a some smokes under it's belt. It never sealed correctly!
hope this helps. |
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Soapm BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 06 Aug 2010 Posts: 2087 Location: Mile High City
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Posted: Aug 21 2010 Post subject: |
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| patruns wrote: | BTW, didn't go together real good then either.  |
I read where all these people easily knocked out those preferably areas with one tap from a hammer and I wonder if I bought the same grill. My wife came out plus my neighbor was leaning over the fence asking me why I was beating away at my new grill. And the grill was the easy one, I almost gave up on the SFB...
I must have gotten the late Friday or early Monday grill.... |
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Soapm BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 06 Aug 2010 Posts: 2087 Location: Mile High City
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Posted: Aug 22 2010 Post subject: |
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Not a good day for me, I fired up the char grill early and it was at 360° after about 45 minutes and I added my brisket. After it reheated to about 260° I closed the input damper about half way. The temp dropped to 247° on the firebox side and about 205° on the other and it sat this way for about 2.5 hours. Life was good...
This is when the day took a huge nose dive and never recovered...
The temp started dropping on the firebox side and got to about 233° so I fired up the next chimney. Don't know why but 45 minutes and all the coals were yet to turn gray. By this time I'm about 220° on the firebox side and about 150° on the other so I panicked and tossed in the new coals even though they weren't all gray (it was going on an hour by now).
Sure enough, when I dump the chimney I noticed the coals at the bottom were almost completely cooked but the ones on top were still black but I quickly closed the door on the SFB. However, 15 minutes later and the temp is still dropping. I'm thinking damn, WTF??? I look in the SFB I got hardly what you would call a fire???
So I light up another chimney but no matter what I did I couldn't get the temp above 200° on the SFB side.
Long story short, I later added the ribs etc..., tried being patient, tossed all the hot coals from the SFB and started a new fire, tossed all the hot coals from the SFB and switched to indirect cooking in the smoking chamber (which stayed waaaay to hot) and 9 hours into this adventure I ended up finishing my cook in the oven.
I then refilled the SFB and removed the inverted ash grill and watched the heat rise immediately. I put some bricks on the cooking grates and the temp dropped to 150° while I had the grill open to put in the bricks and I never got the grill over 199° again. I look at the fire in the SFB and smoldering would be and exaggeration. For some reason I couldn't get a decent fire in the SFB????
While all this is happening my daughter needs to get guinea pig food but the wife won't take her.
I asked the wife to pick up my clothe at the cleaners, NO!!!
The wife asks me if I plan to wash her car sometime today????
The wife asked me if I wanted something from BK???
The wife asked if I needed to use so many dishes?
The wife asked if I plan to clean the kitchen?
My daughter wants to go to a friends so she could go to a party tonight but the wife won't take her...
And flies, seemed every fly in the mile high city came to irritate me... What a day!!!
Lesson learned, next year, buy wife an anniversary gift  |
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feldon30 BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 01 Dec 2009 Posts: 1623 Location: Charlotte or Thereabouts
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Posted: Aug 24 2010 Post subject: |
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Damn. Talk about it not being your day.
Yeah, to me, BBQ is "me" time. If you have all kinds of demands and distractions, I can see how it went pear shaped.
Still not sure why your smoker was so unpredictable on temps. Maybe a bad bag of charcoal?
How many pieces of wood did you have in the SFB? 2-3 chunks of hickory? _________________ 22" Weber Smokey Mountain + Weber Spirit |
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Soapm BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 06 Aug 2010 Posts: 2087 Location: Mile High City
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Posted: Aug 25 2010 Post subject: |
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| feldon30 wrote: | | Still not sure why your smoker was so unpredictable on temps. Maybe a bad bag of charcoal? |
I actually used two different bags and two types of charcoal since I was thinking the same thing. Maybe bad coal...
| feldon30 wrote: | | How many pieces of wood did you have in the SFB? 2-3 chunks of hickory? |
I usually put arranged in the basket like the dots on a dice.
Today I bought some logs which seemed to work well. I had the grill up to 260 for a couple of hours. I also bought some kind of grill blanket but I don't think it made any difference. Someone suggested a welding blanket but I don't want to fork out that kind of loot if I can avoid it. |
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tricky

Joined: 09 Sep 2010 Posts: 4
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Posted: Sep 11 2010 Post subject: |
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| Hey guys, new to the site. My first post was 3 days ago. I got my CG w/ SFB on Sunday, and used it that day. I know, I was impatient and smoked meat while curing it. My ribs and pork loin turned out great. My brother was there and he said it was the best loin he'd ever had. I am going to Lowe's tonight to get some of the stuff to mod the SFB. Right out of the box, I didn't notice any problems with mine not holding temperature like some other people. Mine was stock and held temp at 230-250 for 4.5 hours. I only had to add a few wood chunks 2 different times to get more smoke out of it. I didn't have a problem with "leaking" smoke, but then again, I was just so excited to have my new smoker, i may not have noticed it. I want the coal basket so i can do a long smoke of a brisket Sunday. Great forum and look forward to learning a lot more from everyone. Thanks. |
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KAKid BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 30 Oct 2009 Posts: 1454 Location: Huron, South Dakota
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Posted: Sep 12 2010 Post subject: |
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Welcome to the Ring tricky. It's great that your 1st cook went well, congrats. Since it went well, remember: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Pics of mods and cooks are always cool. _________________ I was taught to respect my elders. It's just getting harder to find them.
Chargriller Outlaw w/SFB and Mods
Pair of UDS's
10 gal CI Chili/Jambalaya pot |
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