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Tony BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 06 Feb 2005 Posts: 3486 Location: Rehoboth Beach ,Delaware
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Posted: Apr 10 2007 Post subject: |
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alemaster:
Yeah...Thanks much for the invite!
I won't be gettin' into Rehoboth until Saturday Morning...
I'll catch up with Ya'll,though!
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mutha chicken bbq BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 2225 Location: newark,de
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Marky C BBQ Pro

Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 501 Location: Delaware
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Posted: Apr 10 2007 Post subject: |
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Mutha,
They are air intakes also. You open all of them when lighting, then shut them as needed to hold temps. Usually only need one open and adjust the valve as needed. The BDS has 3 - 7/8" inch holes (no nipples) with caps. There are actualy 4 - 3/4" nipples on mine one of which has the valve on it. On this one I extended the nipples to get close to fire, not sure if this a good feature yet. As I have only cooked on this one once. They will also hold the fire grate when I get one. I am thinking about only putting 3 in my next one. I don't think 4 are neccessary.
Rocky of BDS has obviously tried many different set ups before he got the one that worked to his liking. If you do some searching on BBQ sites you will find there are a lot of different set ups on the homemade ones.
If you just drill the holes and use the metal caps there is no welding!!! _________________ Kill a cow, Start a fire ...
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Texacue BBQ Fan
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 176 Location: Texas
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Posted: Apr 11 2007 Post subject: DrumSmoker |
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Nice job there.
Here's a pic of one I made last year.
[/img] _________________ There's no such thing as bad barbecue - some of it's just better than others. |
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Texacue BBQ Fan
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 176 Location: Texas
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Posted: Apr 11 2007 Post subject: Drum Smoker |
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Here's another before the first cook.
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soonerjimmie BBQ Fan

Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 134 Location: Quincy IL
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Posted: Apr 11 2007 Post subject: |
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Ugly smokers need lovin too _________________ Thanks,
Jimmie
JJ's (almost famous) BBQ
www.jjskitchen.com |
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crgowo Newbie
Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 56
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Posted: Apr 13 2007 Post subject: |
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Do you have a water pan or anything between your lit coals and cooking grate and if not how do you cook slow and low. Wouldn't the direct heat of the coals cook the meat instead of smoking it?
Im interested in building myself one and using the ball valve as a vent is a great idea. I would have made it a lot more complicated and time consuming
Since you put many holes in the lid I guess you would not be interested in closing all vents to put out the fire and reuse the coals another day?
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Marky C BBQ Pro

Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 501 Location: Delaware
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Posted: Apr 13 2007 Post subject: |
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No water pan.
Make sure the cooking grate is 24" above the fire grate. (Not the fire basket) With that distance it's not exactly direct cooking.
So from the bottom of barrel to the top of the intake nipples where the fire grate will rest is 2.5 to 3". Then 24" from fire grate to cooking grate. Should leave you about 7" to the lid, on a 35" barrel.
8-half inch holes in lid. You can put caps in them if you like. Keep them all open when cooking. Good Luck _________________ Kill a cow, Start a fire ...
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Marky C BBQ Pro

Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 501 Location: Delaware
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Posted: Apr 13 2007 Post subject: |
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Finaly got some expended metal for the fire grate and ring. Cutting this stuff is not easy, forming a fire ring is no easy task either. (Atleast I didn't have to make a trip to the emergency room)
The best we had to cut it with was an angle grinder. This is the hardest part of building a drum smoker. I am not the craftiest person.
I thought $325 for a BDS was a little high for what it was. But after building, I have about $60 into it, and thats with $10 barrel, free welding and help of friends with tools. I would bet Rocky is paying a little more for those nice barrels plus labor and whatever. I doubt that he's getting rich off these things.
So IMO, if you have the tools, sources and know how, build one, it's fun. If not, send Rocky some money, he's earning it.  _________________ Kill a cow, Start a fire ...
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adolpho BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posts: 1067 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Apr 14 2007 Post subject: |
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Would a WSM fire ring work? It still wouldn't break the bank to pay for it. I think these cookers (vertical drums) are neat smokers with simplicty in cooking and making. I think even I can make one of these.  _________________ "Tag line? We don't need no stinkin' tag line!"
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crgowo Newbie
Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 56
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Posted: Apr 14 2007 Post subject: |
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Ive never worked with expanded metal but what I was planning on doing was getting a charcoal grate for a 22inch kettle and getting a strip of expanded metal cut a 4-5 inch strip the lenght of the circumference of the charcoal grate. then fold it over to make a ring and weld it... then if possible weld it to the charcoal grate.
How are you building yours?
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Marky C BBQ Pro

Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 501 Location: Delaware
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Posted: Apr 14 2007 Post subject: |
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Sorry, I am not familiar with the WSM fire ring.
Everything I have read, calls for about 13" across X 6" high. I believe smaller would work but not for real long cooks. The basket I bought worked. Filled, it burned hot enough to smoke on for more than 6 hours.
They are getting 12+ hour burns out of 8lbs of charcoal. _________________ Kill a cow, Start a fire ...
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yukondude1 BBQ Fan

Joined: 24 Dec 2005 Posts: 131 Location: Spokane WA
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Posted: Apr 14 2007 Post subject: |
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About the charcoal baskets--- I used a metal cutting blade in my reciprocating saw to cut the metal. Then bent it to the appropriate shape and used the cut ends to bind the whole thing together. (used offset pliars to bend the ends to secure the whole thing).
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cajun Newbie
Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 46 Location: Kolin, Louisiana
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Posted: Apr 14 2007 Post subject: |
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You can cut the expanded metal with a medal cutting saw blade that fits in a skill saw works great.... Cajun |
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yukondude1 BBQ Fan

Joined: 24 Dec 2005 Posts: 131 Location: Spokane WA
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Posted: Apr 14 2007 Post subject: |
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Cajun,
That sounds even better than using a reciprocating saw! I had to clamp the expanded metal and do a lot of horsing around to get it secure. I'm making some more baskets, so I'm going to try your method.
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Marky C BBQ Pro

Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 501 Location: Delaware
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Posted: Apr 15 2007 Post subject: |
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crgowo wrote: | Ive never worked with expanded metal but what I was planning on doing was getting a charcoal grate for a 22inch kettle and getting a strip of expanded metal cut a 4-5 inch strip the lenght of the circumference of the charcoal grate. then fold it over to make a ring and weld it... then if possible weld it to the charcoal grate.
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If I understand you correctly? Don't make the charcoal basket as big as the grate. Just 13" or so. Welding or attaching it to the grate is a good idea.
You could also just make the grate the same size as the basket, Basically just put a bottom on it and some type of legs to hold it up off the bottom of the barrel.
Heres my basket pics.
See the 2 longer nipples sitting under the fire grate. This was an idea we thought we would try. They are cut on an angle so not to catch ash. Don't no if helps, but it don't hurt. We'll see.
Loaded and ready to light.
Smokin away today. Just doing more chicken thighs and wings. I have some beef ribs to put on later. Still waiting for better weather for a good sanding and a paint job. Oh well, she'll cook.
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coyoterick Newbie
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 73
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Posted: Apr 15 2007 Post subject: |
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Just got my Ugly Drum Smoker functional this morning - there's still a couple things I'd like to do to it, like adding handles to the sides and possibly casters on the bottom. I'm also going to turn the charcoal ring into a real "basket" by fastening it to an old small grate that I have lying around instead of leaving it sitting loose on the larger bottom grate. Need to pickup some plugs for the bottom holes - I found that electrical panel hole plugs will work fine.
I already had some expanded steel scraps lying around in my shop, it cuts fairly easily with a good pair of tin snips. I used baling wire to fasten the ends of the ring together.
I have almost $80.00 into it, the Weber grates have been the biggest expense.
Rick
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Marky C BBQ Pro

Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 501 Location: Delaware
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Posted: Apr 15 2007 Post subject: |
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That thing looks really nice and a tall barrel too? I also bought 2 webber grates, but decided not to use the other as a fire grate @$15 a piece. I didn't think it would hold up as long as the expanded. I like the lid hook .
Anyway, Nice smoker, good luck. _________________ Kill a cow, Start a fire ...
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coyoterick Newbie
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 73
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Posted: Apr 15 2007 Post subject: |
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Marky C wrote: | I like the lid hook |
Heh - thanks for that idea, Marky! After I had already bought the rope cleat, I later found some "Robe Hooks" that I think I would use instead if I were to do it again.
I didn't have enough expanded steel to make a charcoal grate which is why I used a Weber grate. I think with the addition of the smaller grate to the charcoal basket it should hold up fine. |
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Marky C BBQ Pro

Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 501 Location: Delaware
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Posted: Apr 15 2007 Post subject: |
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Thats funny, I saw a robe hook that had 2 hooks and the holes nearly matched the holes on a handle. I wasn't sure if they were long enough to hang lid with, it probably will. I just dig little Sh!t like that, anything to make it more functional. I'd like to see some pics of that basket.
Man, I really really like this drum smoker. Holds some steady temps.
Does anyone know where I could find a WSM charcoal basket?
How wide and deep are they??
I can't seem to find them on Weber part sites. _________________ Kill a cow, Start a fire ...
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