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marvsbbq BBQ All Star

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adolpho BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posts: 1067 Location: Austin, TX
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| OddThomas wrote: | | adolpho wrote: | | Baked beans don't fly well around here. |
You ain't making 'em right.
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I've never even tried!! Besides, I'll just buy a can and heat them up.  _________________ "Tag line? We don't need no stinkin' tag line!"
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Texman BBQ Pro
Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 831 Location: Del Rio, TX
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Marvsbbq: where do you do all of this 'prep and cooking' at???
We prep and cook under the only mesquite tree left in this area that hasn’t been cut down for firewood.
Keep in mind that pinto beans, when soaked will more than double in weight. So 1# of dry beans will feed 12 to 15 people depending on mix of men vs. women. Bulk cleaned pinto beans costs us 21 cents per pound (cwt), if bought retail they are 33cwt.
Have canned beans already been soaked in water, or whatever? Just wondering if you are paying for water.
Seriously, we have over 20 mom and pop Mexican restaurants in this town that are in need of business, so we provide the ingredients, specifications, pots etc. on a fee basis that costs us 20 cwt. We use this on larger jobs such as the one we have tomorrow of 250 people, on smaller deals we do it our selves. |
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marvsbbq BBQ All Star

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There are a LOT of 'quality' food items out now days that are very good. Most you can serve 'as is' or add an ingredient(s) to make them 'your own'.
For me, as a caterer specializing in BBQ, I feel 'time is money'. I want to focus my efforts on a 'Barbecue Better than the best you've ever had'. The sides are only there as a 'filler'. I will NOT serve 'crap' sides but I don't want to spend a lot of time on 'making my own' either.
Really now, there is only 'so much' $$$ you can get out of a side dish. So to make max. proffits (which is why we are in business in the first place). I have found ways to give my customers quality products with little time/effort on my part but the customer THINKS I have spent HOURS making...
For instance, by adding a few spices (dill weed, ground celery seed and a 'pinch' of seasoning salt) to my bagged slaw with comercially prepared dressing, I can 'make it my own' with very little effort and/or expense and I can do it all ON SITE while the meats are cooking.
So I can serve FRESH MADE sides, prepared and cooked (if necessary) on site. The customer loves it and the HD REALLY loves it..  _________________ Often imitated but never duplicated |
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G's BBQ BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 1641 Location: NV
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| marvsbbq wrote: | There are a LOT of 'quality' food items out now days that are very good. Most you can serve 'as is' or add an ingredient(s) to make them 'your own'.
For me, as a caterer specializing in BBQ, I feel 'time is money'. I want to focus my efforts on a 'Barbecue Better than the best you've ever had'. The sides are only there as a 'filler'. I will NOT serve 'crap' sides but I don't want to spend a lot of time on 'making my own' either.
Really now, there is only 'so much' $$$ you can get out of a side dish. So to make max. proffits (which is why we are in business in the first place). I have found ways to give my customers quality products with little time/effort on my part but the customer THINKS I have spent HOURS making...
For instance, by adding a few spices (dill weed, ground celery seed and a 'pinch' of seasoning salt) to my bagged slaw with comercially prepared dressing, I can 'make it my own' with very little effort and/or expense and I can do it all ON SITE while the meats are cooking.
So I can serve FRESH MADE sides, prepared and cooked (if necessary) on site. The customer loves it and the HD REALLY loves it..  |
Yup , I agree |
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G's BBQ BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 1641 Location: NV
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Posted: Apr 05 2007 Post subject: Re: Canned Beans?? |
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| SoEzzy wrote: | | Texman wrote: | We have noticed that several caterers on this site reference the use of canned beans. Canned beans? So with tongue in cheek, along with a touch of humor we ask this question: Why start with canned beans? Why not start from scratch? Is it related to a laziness issue or cost savings?
We start from scratch with pinto beans. What type beans do others use for their catering? |
If I had an extra day to work on the beans alone, washing, stonepicking (not as bad now as it used to be), soaking, cooking, stiring, cooking some more, stiring, taste testing, seasoning, cooking some more, taste testing again, cooking some more, etc. I would be a chilihead NOT a bbqer.  |  |
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Texman BBQ Pro
Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 831 Location: Del Rio, TX
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We guess the main difference is we Texans take pride in all of our products.  |
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Purple Haze Newbie

Joined: 08 Jan 2007 Posts: 89 Location: Richmond, VA
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This has got to be one the more entertaining threads! Demographic differences rule! Anytime you have real men defending their beans, if nothing else, pride is involved. My take is this. At the end of it all, I would think it (da beans in question) is all about making something outta nothing, whether you start from dry beans or canned beans. It would not surprise me at all to see the next reply come from someone who personally picks every bean that he serves to his clients. God bless him too! I personally use canned beans for time and efficiency. But from the first ingredient I add ... DEM BEANS IS MINE!
Anyway, not to talk anyone to death, but viva la difference (or whatever the heck).
We in Virginia feel the same about Brunswick Stew.  |
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DawgPhan BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 3444
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I know the baked beans that I make from scratch are prep heavy, but folks do seem to enjoy them and I think that most folks are going to know when they are getting a kicked up bean or a scratch bean...not that kicked up cant taste as good or better, but I doubt that they think they are getting a truly homemade product.
that being said I doubt that I would even bother serving baked beans if I catered/restaurant unless the customer just had to have them...I would probably go with pasta salad, cole slaw, potato salad or something like that..plain chips...baked beans never really screamed BBQ to me anyway. |
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soonerjimmie BBQ Fan

Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 134 Location: Quincy IL
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Making my own beans from scratch would be great if I only did one job a week. I agree with the bean just being an ingredent. Most people do not want to pay for the extra cost. _________________ Thanks,
Jimmie
JJ's (almost famous) BBQ
www.jjskitchen.com |
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Big Brother Smoke BBQ Fan

Joined: 01 Apr 2006 Posts: 269 Location: Ventura, CA
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The bottom line for me is that the customer says those beans taste great! Also, I did not have to hire extra personnel to achieve these great tasting beans, not to mention the time involved in the scratch stuff.
Additionally, they order them again as return clients.
Now I would be pissed if someone was getting their pre-cooked pulled pork or ribs from the refrigerated area from the grocery store and reselling it as their own!
So, I will continue to doctor up my canned beans and keep my clients happy!  |
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Big Mike BBQ Pro
Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 863 Location: Dayton, Ohio
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I start with jars of Randalls Pinto Beans (already cooked). Like the others, I have to make these on site so a precooked bean is pretty much a necessity. Then I add all the other ingredients, molasses, brown sugar, mustard, etc. Up here they like the beans sweet. If I want to make a texas style bean, I use the same beans but just adjust my other ingredients.
If yall have Randall beans available, I highly recommend them. They are more expensive than Bushes or Allens baked beans, but they are a real good bean and it turns out a real good end product. _________________ Mike
Eagle River BBQ
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sseige BBQ Fan
Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 372 Location: Bay City MI
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| Texman wrote: |
We guess the main difference is we Texans take pride in all of our products.  |
Tex what kind of comment was that? next your gona tell the poor stick burners they have to cut and split their own wood? or the 150 cases of ribs for my next event have to be butchered and packed by me? Get of your high Texas horse before I have Ray Gill (a really big real Texan) slap you off it.
You sound like one of those jokers that use Forums to advertise cause their to cheap to take out a add.
If you think your impressing anyone with words like scratch, Texan, and pride ....................  _________________ Rusty Saw Smokehouse BBQ
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soonerjimmie BBQ Fan

Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 134 Location: Quincy IL
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Tell us what you really think sseige. Boomer Sooner _________________ Thanks,
Jimmie
JJ's (almost famous) BBQ
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DawgPhan BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 3444
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| sseige wrote: | | Texman wrote: |
We guess the main difference is we Texans take pride in all of our products.  |
Tex what kind of comment was that? next your gona tell the poor stick burners they have to cut and split their own wood? or the 150 cases of ribs for my next event have to be butchered and packed by me? Get of your high Texas horse before I have Ray Gill (a really big real Texan) slap you off it.
You sound like one of those jokers that use Forums to advertise cause their to cheap to take out a add.
If you think your impressing anyone with words like scratch, Texan, and pride ....................  |
I think that the type of comment is called a joke...a bit of a jab, but mostly just a joke...no need to take a shot at him...
and I dont normally point of spelling mistakes, but c'mon ad is only 2 letters. A and D add is short of addition as he is going to take out an addition on the forum...  |
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adolpho BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posts: 1067 Location: Austin, TX
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| sseige wrote: | | Texman wrote: |
We guess the main difference is we Texans take pride in all of our products.  |
Tex what kind of comment was that? next your gona tell the poor stick burners they have to cut and split their own wood? or the 150 cases of ribs for my next event have to be butchered and packed by me? Get of your high Texas horse before I have Ray Gill (a really big real Texan) slap you off it.
You sound like one of those jokers that use Forums to advertise cause their to cheap to take out a add.
If you think your impressing anyone with words like scratch, Texan, and pride ....................  |
What's with this forum lately?????!?!!!!!!????!?!??!?!
Texman's comment started with happy faces and ended with happy faces. It was a joke, and then you come on here and start talking about having someone slap him around. Jeez .
I guess Marv needs to stop posting about what he's planning to add to his menu, BBQMAN stop explaining how he cooks whole hogs, Harry_Nutzac stop informing us about his new venture into vending, or anyone elses post of their catering experience since it's free advertising and they're too cheap to pay Garry.
Thanks Dawgphan for noticing Texman was joking. _________________ "Tag line? We don't need no stinkin' tag line!"
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BBQMAN BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 15475 Location: Florida
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Actually, I do help Garry out by advertising the ring at my web site! Ever see the Huge links at the bottom of my front page?! Hard to think I don't even charge a consulting fee to help (with what liitle I know) other's out when I can!
Give the Texman a break. I have spoken with him personally on a few occasions, and you couldnt find a nicer well spoken guy anywhere!
I think it's a full moon, or perhaps it's in the water (so drink more beer!)  _________________ BBQMAN
"I Turned A Hobby Into A Business".
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adolpho BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posts: 1067 Location: Austin, TX
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| BBQMAN wrote: | Actually, I do help Garry out by advertising the ring at my web site! Ever see the Huge links at the bottom of my front page?! Hard to think I don't even charge a consulting fee to help (with what liitle I know) other's out when I can!
Give the Texman a break. I have spoken with him personally on a few occasions, and you couldnt find a nicer well spoken guy anywhere!
I think it's a full moon, or perhaps it's in the water (so drink more beer!)  |
I have the smokering on my site as well. I think that this section is the most helpful of all and I view the posts as helpful, not some sort of advertising. _________________ "Tag line? We don't need no stinkin' tag line!"
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BBQMAN BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 15475 Location: Florida
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I know that adolpho, you are good people my man!
Just my sarcastic wit at work!  _________________ BBQMAN
"I Turned A Hobby Into A Business".
Providing "IMHO" Since 2005. |
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