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Hell Fire Grill
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PostPosted: Mar 20 2007    Post subject: Making lump charcoal Reply with quote

I have been making my own lump lately. I biult a charcoal retort using info I got from the web(charcoal retort on google & naked whiz). I have plenty of seasoned oak branches, Maple, Alder,Cherry and at least a few different fruit n nut woods, all kept covered at least. The problem I'm having is the lump dont seem to be as hard or lasting as long as some of the store bought lump I"ve used in the past. Using mostly oregon white oak I figured it would come out quite a bit harder than it is. I think I am over cooking it but not quite sure. Anybody have any advice to help change this?
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PostPosted: Apr 04 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

good question,

a real retort kiln? or a burn & smother set-up?

so, is it too brittle and flaking into dust?
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PostPosted: Apr 05 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried making charcoal with the burn n smother method and had alot of uncarbonized wood left over. So I thought i'd try biulding a retort kiln,using a barrel and some steel pipe I had laying around. I put some legs on the barrel, in a horizontal fashion, the steel pipe comes out the top,around the back and under the barrel all the way to the front of the barrel where it is caped off,with about 30 holes in the pipe to allow outgassing and to use the gasses to help char the charcoal. I got alot of chacoal out of it probably about 60lb or more. The stuff dont turn to dust but it is way softer than some royal oak i have. I can easily break fist sized peices of oak and maple, that I cooked, with my hands. The royal oak is more difficult to break and seems to burns longer.
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PostPosted: Apr 06 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

so it is over brittle?

rapidy exinguishing the fire can cause that according to the naked-whiz site, letting it go out by itself can help according to; http://www.nakedwhiz.com/makinglump.htm
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PostPosted: Apr 06 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why dont you use that good wood for smoke rather than using it for making charcoal? Lots of guys would kill for good cherry and oak.
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PostPosted: Apr 06 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

wnkt wrote:
Why dont you use that good wood for smoke rather than using it for making charcoal? Lots of guys would kill for good cherry and oak.

I been charcoalin mostly the oak n maple, the stuff grows like weeds around here. The fruit n nut woods i have been hording for smoke.
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PostPosted: Apr 06 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harry Nutczak wrote:
so it is over brittle?

rapidy exinguishing the fire can cause that according to the naked-whiz site, letting it go out by itself can help according to; http://www.nakedwhiz.com/makinglump.htm

Over brittle may be a good way to put it. I think the problem may be caused by over fireing the wood from the start. When i started the fire under the kiln to cook the charcoal, it dident want to start outgassing fast enough so i kept making the fire bigger n hotter untill it took off. When it finally took off it sounded like a small jet air plane inside the inclosure it's in and even removed a dent in the barrel where it got red hot. The fire ended up going out about 1 1/2 hours after the out gassing had stopped, probably cooked to long after it was done also. The first place I looked for info on this was the naked whiz's site, he seems to be the industry standard for charcoal info. I suppose the wood may still be a little green, it's only been down 1 year this month.
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PostPosted: Apr 06 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

down for one year, but was it split? A log will hold it's moisture for several years if it is not split, we have a firewood supplier by me that has 8-year old logs, but he splits to order and I need to let the stuff sit for a full year after I get it before I can burn it.


I have always had the best luck splitting right when cut, (especially with red-oak)

we have done a fast-cure rig for our wood with clear plastic, we make an open ended tent over the stacks and the moisture evap's out of the wood and runs down the plastic to the ground. we get cured firewood over 1 summer by doing this.

I am going to try my hand at charcoal making when our snow goes away, So please keep us informed of what you learn. I can get loads of forest scrap for free (oak & Maple) it is the stuff the paper & veneer mills do not want.
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