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Gray Goat BBQ Pro

Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 699 Location: Crystal Lake, IL
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Posted: Oct 09 2016 Post subject: commissary question |
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I have an opportunity to sell jerky and snack sticks at a small tavern here in town. While I am getting things in line to do this, one of the biggest hurdles seems to be finding affordable commissary space. Any ideas would be appreciated. _________________ "Everything in moderation, including moderation"
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T00lman BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 21 Dec 2007 Posts: 2476 Location: warren michigan
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Posted: Oct 10 2016 Post subject: |
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check out a kitchen in a church _________________ 1 bad azz d.o table
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some of its magic some of its tragic
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Mr Tony's BBQ BBQ All Star

Joined: 01 Aug 2010 Posts: 5067 Location: Fredonia Wi
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Posted: Oct 10 2016 Post subject: |
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Every state and sometimes even county have varying laws on commissaries and food laws in general[ Cook Co. being one ] , a church may very well work for you, but check with local health department. For me in Wi, even a gas station that is licensed to sell coffee or sandwiches can be a legal commissary. I currently have the butcher I use regularly for my specialty sausages listed as mine.
Maybe make a deal with a small grocer or gas station in trade for your product on their shelves???? _________________ Money Maker
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Gray Goat BBQ Pro

Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 699 Location: Crystal Lake, IL
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Posted: Oct 12 2016 Post subject: |
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Thanks for the ideas TOOLman and Mr. Tony. I am also thinking of talking to the local VFW _________________ "Everything in moderation, including moderation"
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Gray Goat BBQ Pro

Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 699 Location: Crystal Lake, IL
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Posted: Oct 12 2016 Post subject: |
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Thanks for the ideas TOOLman and Mr. Tony. I am also thinking of talking to the local VFW _________________ "Everything in moderation, including moderation"
Home made offset
Weber gasser
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Large BGE
Masterbuilt 30" |
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Harry Nutczak BBQ All Star

Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 8558 Location: The Northwoods
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Posted: Oct 15 2016 Post subject: |
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one other problem that you may run into, if you are wholesaling these items (sounds like you are) you may need an onsite state inspector during all stages of production, an approved HACCP plan, and all your recipes will most likely need to be approved by the state food safety lab.
Hows that for oppressive tactics to keep entrepreneurs from succeeding?
My local inspector Wrongly told me I cannot due any curing at all at my restaurant, I went over her head to get clarification from the state level, and they sided with me by saying those rules do not apply, all was fine and dandy until she went full retard on me wrongly citing me on many things.
So basically she won because I will not play her stupid games. _________________ Just remember that the toes you may step on during your climb to the top will also be attached to the a$$es you'll be forced to kiss on your way back down! |
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Gray Goat BBQ Pro

Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 699 Location: Crystal Lake, IL
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Posted: Oct 16 2016 Post subject: |
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Thanks Harry ! Whenever the term "cured meat" is used, all kinds of red flags go up. I plan on having a sit down with the local health dept.
I also can't figure out why I am double posting  _________________ "Everything in moderation, including moderation"
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Harry Nutczak BBQ All Star

Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 8558 Location: The Northwoods
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Posted: Oct 17 2016 Post subject: |
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Gray Goat wrote: | Thanks Harry ! Whenever the term "cured meat" is used, all kinds of red flags go up. I plan on having a sit down with the local health dept.
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Be very clear that you are not curing as a method of preservation, and in fact you are doing it to modify the flavor and texture of the meat.
Which brings up my first bout with my newest inspector, she said "Smoking" needed a HACCP plan, my reply was; "well its probably a very good thing that I am not doing any smoking then, I am simply roasting meats in a solid-fueled commercial cooking appliance."
some people in the regulatory field act is if it is their mission to make sure a business cannot open, it should be that they guide and help someone operate safely. _________________ Just remember that the toes you may step on during your climb to the top will also be attached to the a$$es you'll be forced to kiss on your way back down! |
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qfanatic01 BBQ Pro

Joined: 21 Oct 2009 Posts: 768 Location: Champlin, MN
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Posted: Oct 20 2016 Post subject: |
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Ya, we do not smoke or cure as a preservative! Flavor and texture is our goal, not shelf stability. Many inspectors need to learn what questions to ask and when to apply some of the regulations. And not be sore losers when educated. However in order to skirt the BS you must use refrigeration and time limits for holding and storage even if the process does make your product stable for extended holding. None of us want to make someone sick. The regulations, as much of a pain as they can be, are usually there for good reasons! _________________ The lessons are in the customer's criticism. They aren't always right. The rewards are their satisfaction. |
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