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Alphonse



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25 16 6:11 am    Post subject: Miller or Hypertherm Plasma Cutter? Reply with quote

Looking to buy a decent plasma cutter in the nominal 1/2" capacity range.

Pondering a Miller Spectrum 625 or a Hypertherm Power Max 45.

I like Miller simply because I have used their welders for years. But I have very little knowledge on plasma cutters.

I am looking for your experience and insights to help me make a choice.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25 16 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the ring Alphonse. I am big fan of Miller welders as well. When I started shopping for a plasma cutter a few years ago, I did a ton of research and wound up with a Hypertherm Power Max30 XP. I have been extremely happy with it and have had no problems thus far.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25 16 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alphonse welcome to the ring Exclamation
Have been using hypertherm for over 25 years ...great machines. Just had a job that was to thick for the #40 we had and bought the 85, cuts 1" steel like butter Cool . I am sure both machines would do you fine but hypertherm has been in the game forever. Good luck with your new toy.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26 16 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a miller fan, my plasma is a hobart.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29 16 12:33 am    Post subject: Machine is on order. Reply with quote

I researched at length and ended up choosing a Hypertherm Powermax 45. I have it on order and it should arrive in a few days.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29 16 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you will not be disappointed Cool Good luck with your new toy. remember to keep your air dry and clean, will save on your tips.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29 16 9:27 pm    Post subject: Air quality Reply with quote

My compressor has a good filter on it and a water separator on the outlet. The suction air to the compressor is typically 50% RH because it resides in a dehumidified and cooled shop.

I am hoping this should be fine but I need to do a little more research on that.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30 16 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maniac wrote:
you will not be disappointed Cool Good luck with your new toy. remember to keep your air dry and clean, will save on your tips.

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I spent years without a air drier, working for others.
When I got my own plasma I got a air drier and it makes a big difference.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30 16 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gandrfab wrote:
Maniac wrote:
you will not be disappointed Cool Good luck with your new toy. remember to keep your air dry and clean, will save on your tips.

Truth
I spent years without a air drier, working for others.
When I got my own plasma I got a air drier and it makes a big difference.


What did you notice?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30 16 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Longer lasting tips, they are still consumables but it's nice when you don't have to change them out as often.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05 16 9:23 pm    Post subject: Powermax 45 in hand! Reply with quote

The Hypertherm PM45 is in hand and I have been using it. Wow!

I should have had one of these years ago.

Cuts extremely well and smooth, particularly using a guide. This will replace the torch for 95% of what I do for sure.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05 16 11:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Powermax 45 in hand! Reply with quote

Alphonse wrote:
The Hypertherm PM45 is in hand and I have been using it. Wow!

I should have had one of these years ago.

Cuts extremely well and smooth, particularly using a guide. This will replace the torch for 95% of what I do for sure.
I only use my OXY torch for heating and bending.
Plasma is a bad a** cutting tool.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06 16 1:36 am    Post subject: Re: Powermax 45 in hand! Reply with quote

gandrfab wrote:
Alphonse wrote:
The Hypertherm PM45 is in hand and I have been using it. Wow!

I should have had one of these years ago.

Cuts extremely well and smooth, particularly using a guide. This will replace the torch for 95% of what I do for sure.
I only use my OXY torch for heating and bending.
Plasma is a bad a** cutting tool.


I am gonna give you an Amen to that!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06 16 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: Powermax 45 in hand! Reply with quote

Alphonse wrote:
The Hypertherm PM45 is in hand and I have been using it. Wow!

I should have had one of these years ago.

Cuts extremely well and smooth, particularly using a guide. This will replace the torch for 95% of what I do for sure.

Glad you like it . Now you will get creative Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06 16 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Powermax 45 in hand! Reply with quote

gandrfab wrote:
I only use my OXY torch for heating and bending.
Plasma is a bad a** cutting tool.[/quote]
In the right hands with the correct tip an O/A torch is a bad a$$ cutting tool as well. Wink
Congrats on your new plasma rig Alphonse. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07 16 12:07 am    Post subject: Re: Powermax 45 in hand! Reply with quote

k.a.m. wrote:
gandrfab wrote:
I only use my OXY torch for heating and bending.
Plasma is a bad a** cutting tool.

In the right hands with the correct tip an O/A torch is a bad a$$ cutting tool as well. Wink
Congrats on your new plasma rig Alphonse. Very Happy[/quote]

O/A is way more versatile
If I had to pick one it would be the O/A rig.

But the plasma cuts clean and fast
S/S, steel, Aluminum.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07 16 1:30 am    Post subject: Re: Powermax 45 in hand! Reply with quote

gandrfab wrote:
But the plasma cuts clean and fast
S/S, steel, Aluminum.

I use a chop saw and cut off wheels for SS and aluminum.
For the most part I leave less slag on carbon steel than plasmas with my O/A and what is there is much easier to knock off than plasma slag. I can free hand cut just as fast as someone using a plasma free hand. Very Happy

Have you changed your mind on the aluminum cutting? In the Henrob torch thread you said a plasma does not cut aluminum very well.
gandrfab wrote:
plasma cutter is not a clean cut on aluminum.
I'd rather use a skill or jig saw on aluminum.
A plasma cutter is great on SS and steal.
I'm still not going to give up my O/A set up.
Used it yesterday to bend some round rod with ease.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07 16 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love my powermax 45, this thing is insane. Ive had a powermax 600, also the miller 325 and 625 specetrum at my old shop. I like the hypertherm better, more options for consumables and they last a hell of a lot longer. The added benefit of being able to cut anything thats metal (steel, stainless, aluminum, titanium, etc) is a huge plus too. I still need a lot of practice with my torch skills, but having the plasma is never a bad thing, as long as you have a decent size compressor and the amperage to run it in your house (i ran a 50a outlet/breaker for my plasma)

for smoker building, having both the torch and a plasma makes an awesome pair. my .02
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07 16 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nunan0219 wrote:
I love my powermax 45, this thing is insane. Ive had a powermax 600, also the miller 325 and 625 specetrum at my old shop. I like the hypertherm better, more options for consumables and they last a hell of a lot longer. The added benefit of being able to cut anything thats metal (steel, stainless, aluminum, titanium, etc) is a huge plus too. I still need a lot of practice with my torch skills, but having the plasma is never a bad thing, as long as you have a decent size compressor and the amperage to run it in your house (i ran a 50a outlet/breaker for my plasma)

for smoker building, having both the torch and a plasma makes an awesome pair. my .02

I agree a well balanced shop benefits from having both and as always you should purchase for your specific needs over simplicity. If you are more of a carbon steel shop then having an O/A system over a plasma is a better choice if you have to choose one or the other. To be honest in my over 30 years of fabricating I have many times wished I had a plasma but I have never missed it in my work place.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08 16 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thin aluminum is nice 1/8" or thicker gets messy with a plasma.
Then out comes the grinder.
Or put the earmuffs on and cut it with a skill saw.
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