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H2ODR
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Posted: Dec 31 2015 Post subject: RF Build Questions |
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Hello,
I am starting a smoker project with a tank that is 36" diameter and 92" long and I have a couple questions for the more experienced builders here.
I originally thought the wall thickness was 1/4" only to find after cutting the firebox opening that it is 3/16" thick. I have stopped the build until I get some advise.
First of all, will this thickness hold heat well enough to make this build worthwhile?
This will be a trailer mounted rig once complete with several added gadgets for cooking and quite a bit of time and cost involved.
Will a thick baffle plate help hold heat and make up for the thinner tank?
I have been thinking of making one large door so that I could possibly cook a whole hog at some point, with the thinner tank I am afraid the door may warp if I don't reinforce it with some type of framework.
The question is will I be okay with one door or should I leave a 3" strip between two doors to help with door and tank integrity?
I have also thought I could tab and bolt in the center section between the doors, just a lot of trouble to remove during a cook.
This is it for now, I'm sure more questions will come up along the way, I plan on posting pics along the way.
Thanks!
Charles |
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SoEzzy BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 13183 Location: SLC, UT
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Posted: Dec 31 2015 Post subject: Re: RF Build Questions |
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| H2ODR wrote: | Hello,
I am starting a smoker project with a tank that is 36" diameter and 92" long and I have a couple questions for the more experienced builders here.
I originally thought the wall thickness was 1/4" only to find after cutting the firebox opening that it is 3/16" thick. I have stopped the build until I get some advise.
First of all, will this thickness hold heat well enough to make this build worthwhile?
This will be a trailer mounted rig once complete with several added gadgets for cooking and quite a bit of time and cost involved. |
3/16 th is not too thin, once the pit is at temperature, it will just rock and roll on, it should take a little less time to heat fully through too.
| Quote: | | Will a thick baffle plate help hold heat and make up for the thinner tank? |
Yes it will help some, but you don't need to overbuild it with 1" plate, the RF plate needs to heat up quickly enough to provide part of your radiant heating under the meat.
| Quote: | | I have been thinking of making one large door so that I could possibly cook a whole hog at some point, with the thinner tank I am afraid the door may warp if I don't reinforce it with some type of framework. |
Even at only 3/16 as 80" door will be more than most folks want to drag up and down all the way through a long cook. I would build a 2 door overlapping set up, I'd make them equal in size, but overlap the door nearest the firebox, over the door away from the firebox.
| Quote: | The question is will I be okay with one door or should I leave a 3" strip between two doors to help with door and tank integrity?
I have also thought I could tab and bolt in the center section between the doors, just a lot of trouble to remove during a cook. |
See above about the overlap, if you want room to cook a whole hog, but if you've already decided you don't want to be able to cook whole hog, just make it a 2 door with center section.
| Quote: | This is it for now, I'm sure more questions will come up along the way, I plan on posting pics along the way.
Thanks!
Charles |
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H2ODR
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| Thanks much for your input! |
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H2ODR
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| Also, I plan on building a double wall insulated fire box, will 1/4" inside plate 1" gap/insulation be sufficient? |
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SoEzzy BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 13183 Location: SLC, UT
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I would be tempted to up the inner wall of the firebox to 3/8" th s if you can find it.
Have you run the numbers through the calculator yet? http://www.thesmokering.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20871
I've know 2 or 3 fireboxes that were built out of 1/4" plate that suffered somewhere around the 7 year mark, the stronger you build it now, the longer you can relax before you have to rebuild it.
There are solid insulation boards that are made, for the most part folks use the 2", available from McMaster-Carr.
Someone will probably supply a link, tonight or tomorrow AM. _________________ Here's a change Robert.
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missionsusmc BBQ Pro

Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 633 Location: Rogersville, TN
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| SoEzzy wrote: | | I've know 2 or 3 fireboxes that were built out of 1/4" plate that suffered somewhere around the 7 year mark, the stronger you build it now, the longer you can relax before you have to rebuild it. |
7 years? You can't get that out of a new car. Heck, I'd be happy with 4. _________________ "Never trust a skinny cook."
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Smokin Mike BBQ Super Pro

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k.a.m. BBQ Mega Star

Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 26020 Location: Southeast Texas.
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The 3/16" wall on the tank will be fine as far as retaining enough heat to cook with. There is no real way of knowing what your door opening will do once it is cut. I cut a 50" wide door on my cooker and both the tank and door sprung so I designed my coffin lid door. You could go big opening with vertical hinged flat doors and no center bar this will allow you to not need counterweights and have a large opening for whole hogs.
1/4" thick fireboxes are the industry standard for the most part. If you are insulating it go 2" thick minimum or you are wasting time and material in my opinion.
I hope this helps.  _________________ Always remember slow and steady wins the race.
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H2ODR
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Great information.
Thank you all. |
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