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DunnSmoke
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02 14 12:29 am    Post subject: Fraternal Twins Reply with quote

I started a pair of insulated direct water smokers that I've been working on the design for a month, it's time. These are optimized as much as possible. The interior of the box and the interior of the door is 1\8", (1 - 4 x 8 sheet). The exterior will be 1\16", (1 - 4 x 8 sheet)
The ash pan will be a standard 3" full size pan, the water pan will be a 4' full size pan. Both will be removable without disturbing the cooking chamber.
the coal basket will be 7' tall, 13" wide and 20" deep.
The top will be 1\8" aluminum diamond plate to be used as a shelf.
The insulation will be 1" ceramic 2300 degree.
It will have 3 full depth racks and 4 half depth racks.
I finished both frames, 1 has the back and 1 has 3 sides on it. I will pick up more material Wednesday.
This should make a great competition smoker or a backyard, set it and forget it, until suppertime.
My overall goal is to lighten the load and improve efficiency for competition.
The advantages will be to gain some experience cooking on something that is not a stick burner, but most of all I will have 2 more smokers.
Stay tuned pictures to come in the next couple of days.


The side shelf with the propane bottle will be going away. I found this last night and I am going to give it a try. (Less is more)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chimney-Barbecue-Grill-Starter-with-Gas-burner-assist-for-faster-starts-/181413446538?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a3d15838a
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04 14 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worked a couple hours this evening.

http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i462/DunnSmoke/Evening1.jpg

http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i462/DunnSmoke/Evening1-1.jpg
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04 14 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please make pictures no longer than 650px on the longest side!

Please read PMPNLT650pxOTLS!

Then read this one too! Wink Laughing Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04 14 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DunnSmoke, I like what I am seeing. Very Happy I will be watching for more updates. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06 14 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was able to get a few shop hours in today. I ran out of insulation, so the doors will be delayed a couple of days.



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08 14 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Made some progress today.
I will build the door tomorrow, but I cannot put the back on until the insulation makes it here next week.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08 14 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is my first insulated pit.
The charcoal basket is 12 x 19 x 6 1\2 tall
Question....
Should I add a maze to the basket?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09 14 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DunnSmoke wrote:
This is my first insulated pit.
The charcoal basket is 12 x 19 x 6 1\2 tall
Question....
Should I add a maze to the basket?

Yes
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09 14 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DunnSmoke wrote:
This is my first insulated pit.
The charcoal basket is 12 x 19 x 6 1\2 tall
Question....
Should I add a maze to the basket?

Very nice work DunnSmoke I like it. Very Happy
As far as the maze goes nope I wouldn't add one till I test fired her. If the doors seal well chances are it will not be needed.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09 14 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Wreckless and k.a.m.
I think I will mahke another basket with a maze while I'm waiting on the insulation for the door. Then test both.

k.a.m.
You coming over to Breaux Bridge next weekend. I won't be able to make it.

http://www.courtesychryslerdodgejeepram.com/2014-wild-side-ride-and-cookoff.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09 14 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DunnSmoke wrote:
Thanks Wreckless and k.a.m.
I think I will mahke another basket with a maze while I'm waiting on the insulation for the door. Then test both.

k.a.m.
You coming over to Breaux Bridge next weekend. I won't be able to make it.

http://www.courtesychryslerdodgejeepram.com/2014-wild-side-ride-and-cookoff.htm

Yes Sir Debbie and I will be there.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11 14 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still waiting on the insulation to finish the top door.
i decided to go with a maze in the charcoal basket.
Hopefully this weekend this one will get seasoned.
Meanwhile, I will turn my attention to the twin. The shelf will be on the opposite side.



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12 14 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The smoker is painted and the red in the bottom of the picture is the bottom door. i got an update on my insulation, it will not be here until Monday.



k.a.m. - I may come out to Breaux Bridge and judge.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12 14 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice work DunnSmoke I like this design and look forward to hearing how she cooks. Very Happy
We should be pulling in around 3:00 Friday evening. I look forward to meeting you Saturday if possible. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17 14 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my insulation in today.
I finished the top door and hung the bottom door while the top one is drying. I will hang it and finally build a fire.
Stay tuned...



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It was great to finally get to meet you and Debbie. If you catch yourself on my side of the river, look me up.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18 14 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome looking John I believe she is a keeper. Very Happy
It was a real pleasure meeting you my Friend. I apologize if I seemed a bit everywhere but with the heat and short turn in times I was trying to visit and stay on track. I did enjoy our visit and the boudin was top notch Debbie and I both loved it Thank you again. Very Happy
I look forward to visiting with you again. Very Happy In all the running around you got a pic on your phone but I failed to get one on mine for our page. If you get a chance could you shoot me a copy of the pic I would appreciate it.

All the best,

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18 14 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The day I have been working for.
Added a 15 lb bag of charcoal with no water pan at 6:50 am.
She is still at 290 with the air valve only opened 25%.
I looked at the coal before I came in and it seems to still have well over half. I will monitor it until I go to bed and we will see where she is in the morning.
Tomorrow evening, is ribs.
Thursday is chicken.
Pork butt on Friday.
Saturday give it a break.
Sunday Brisket.
Pictures to come.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18 14 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

k.a.m.
PM'd you the picture.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18 14 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very very nice DunnSmoke. Looks great and sounds like she's holding temps really well. Ya done good! I'm making a special request to see some pictures of tomorrow nights ribs. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24 14 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update:
I overcooked 2 racks of ribs and dried out some chicken. (No waterpan)
I have a new test cook planned for tomorrow.
3 racks St. Louis
2 racks of Baby Backs
Halfed chicken
15 legs
Baked Beans
Bacon wrapped green beans.

Modifications:
I added another 1 1\4" valve for even faster recovery if needed.
Ripped off the stainless piano hinge and threw it in the scrap pile. Went back with weld on bullet hinges with Zirc fitting.
The biggest change was removing the maze. K.A.M. I should have listened! Not necessary and impeding in a sealed environment.

Max temp with the maze and 1 valve was 300, I want the capability of 375. I will never use it, but I do not want to be limited to 300.

I have been fighting Photobucket for 3 days. I will post more pictures as soon as I figure out why I keep getting "Upload Failed".
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