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Woodstone Griller



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PostPosted: Apr 08 2014    Post subject: RF Design Decision Help Reply with quote

I'm designing a reverse flow for my back yard. The smoking chamber will be square so I can insulate it. I'm having a difficult time committing to size. Most of my smoking is for family get togethers with 12 or so in attendance. At least once a year I cook a butt, brisket and ribs for my football tailgate party serving between 28 and 45.

I can't decide whether to go 60 in. wide with 2 cooking grates or 48 in wide with 2 cooking grates or 48 in wide with 3 cooking grates. Grates would be spaced 8 in. apart.

Is there a draw back to having a cooking chamber tall enough to accommodate the three cooking grates? Would this be too top heavy?

Also, I assume when using the calculator that the area under the RF plate is not considered cooking chamber?
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PostPosted: Apr 08 2014    Post subject: Re: RF Design Decision Help Reply with quote

Woodstone Griller wrote:
I'm designing a reverse flow for my back yard. The smoking chamber will be square so I can insulate it. I'm having a difficult time committing to size. Most of my smoking is for family get togethers with 12 or so in attendance. At least once a year I cook a butt, brisket and ribs for my football tailgate party serving between 28 and 45.

I can't decide whether to go 60 in. wide with 2 cooking grates or 48 in wide with 2 cooking grates or 48 in wide with 3 cooking grates. Grates would be spaced 8 in. apart.


60" x ? x (2) or

48" x ? x (2) or

48" x ? x (3)

The ? is important unless you have deep pockets, some sizes make more sense for cutting from 4' x 8' or 5' x 10' sheet of plate.

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Is there a draw back to having a cooking chamber tall enough to accommodate the three cooking grates? Would this be too top heavy?


A cooking chamber can be as big as you want or need it to be, as long as you create a good base for keeping it off the floor, but if you go with 1" grates and 8" between grates you are looking at 27" (grates x 3) + 5" (RF plate to bottom grate) + 5" (from RF plate to bottom of pit). All that adds up to 37" then add the insulation layer, and the second plate you will be at 41" height, and if you want a square pit, 41" deep, but the most you want to cook is a couple of butts, a couple of briskets and ribs for 45, ((45 x 4)/ 12) = 15 racks of ribs... IMO that's a much bigger pit than you need!

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Also, I assume when using the calculator that the area under the RF plate is not considered cooking chamber?


Nope the calculator includes the math for the area under the RF plate as part of the cooking chamber, I'm 99% sure about that!
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Woodstone Griller



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PostPosted: Apr 08 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks SoEzzy. My concern is would 48 X 24 with 2 cooking grates be sufficient for the bigger size cook? I am assuming 6 inches below the RF plate and 6 inches above to the lower cooking grate. 8 inches between grates and assuming 8 inches above the top grate to the top of the chamber. 2 grates would be an overall inside height of 28 inches, for three that would be 36 inches. I'm leaning towards the 48 X 24 with 2 grates, but if I am going to expend this amount of $ and time I want it to be adequate for my needs. Sometimes I do more than one butt and a whole brisket and cut back on the ribs a bit.

I guess another option would be to add additional supports to allow doubling up on grates when doing a large number of ribs and that would probably make the smaller cooker work out.

Another concern is whether it would be too top heavy since it isn't a trailer build.
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Woodstone Griller



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PostPosted: Apr 08 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry SoEzzy. After reading your post again more carefully I gleaned the necessary information. I will work out the details and post the design to see if anyone has additional input for improvements.
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PostPosted: Apr 09 2014    Post subject: Size Reply with quote

I design all my smokers around what is the most efficient use and easiest to cut out of a sheet or plate.
Then build the rest according to that
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PostPosted: Apr 09 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the ring Woodstone Griller, looking forward to seeing some pics of your cooks and following your cooker project. Smile
In my opinion a 24" x 24" x 48" square cooker will be more than enough to feed a group of 12 folks. Heck you could feed twice that many folks.
You can lower the R/F plate to between 1" and 5" in my opinion.
Using a 22" firebox you would need about 85 Sq. in on your Fb/Cc opening. A hole 5" tall and 17" wide will work. This will allow you to have two grates about 7" apart.
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