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drunkmunk

Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 8 Location: Augusta, Georgia
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Posted: Feb 12 2007 Post subject: The Steve Raichlen Fan club |
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Hi y'all. I just got a quick question on why every one likes to beat up on old steve here on these forums. I've got one of his books (how to grill) and actually find it to be a pretty useful book. now if i'm missing some thing i'd like to get let in on the secret ie he's a d*ck head in person or something of that nature
then again i guess there is quite a bit to laugh at |
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wnkt BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 1329 Location: Upstate South Carolina
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Posted: Feb 12 2007 Post subject: |
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Ive got nothing against him at all.....I even have his BBQ USA book. He is very knowledgeable in a lot of areas, mostly grilling.
He is not a "good old boy-low and slow-only use a smoker for anything I cook" kinda guy. Even though he DOES mention smoking and covers it quite well for people who can't or wont plop down $1,000 or more for a dedicated smoker, he mostly uses gas grills and Weber lettle charcoal grills for all his recipes on the tv show. WHich is what most people use. His methods are for using grills to indirectly cook meat while adding smoke.
His TV show on the public television has full blown smokers chugging along in the background, but he never has pulled one up and shown how its used( that I have seen so far anyway).
His show is pretty much the reason I wanted to get into grilling and smoking as much as I have. _________________ Electricity can be dangerous. My nephew tried to stick a penny into a plug. Whoever said a penny doesn't go far didn't see him shoot across that floor. I told him he was grounded. - Tim Allen |
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Alien BBQ BBQ All Star

Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 5426 Location: Roswell, New Mexico
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Posted: Feb 12 2007 Post subject: |
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That’s about the size of it. Steve is a griller and seldom ventures into the smoking realm. He does some BBQing and calls it smoking but while his grilling info is great, his smoking info is more wives tales and misinformation. _________________ https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaeloberry |
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Mike Lawry BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2122 Location: Parts unknown
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Alien BBQ BBQ All Star

Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 5426 Location: Roswell, New Mexico
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Well I must admit that I have not read his FAQ’s at the web site. I base my opinion strictly on his book and TV show (of which I have copies of both.) Who knows, maybe he logged on here and got the correct info and has changed his opinions. Ya never know! _________________ https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaeloberry |
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Mike Lawry BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2122 Location: Parts unknown
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Posted: Feb 12 2007 Post subject: |
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Click the link above + read his Brisket FAQ.
Tell us what you think Alien, ? Seems good to me.
At least a good starting point.
Mike Lawry |
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Char BBQ Fan

Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Posts: 142
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I have never seen or heard of him before, I must live under a rock. _________________ Smokin' it's not just a guy thing! |
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Alien BBQ BBQ All Star

Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 5426 Location: Roswell, New Mexico
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Having read many of Steve’s books, I would say that the FAQ was written by someone on his staff. The writing styles are different but the information is dead on. _________________ https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaeloberry |
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SmokeyBear BBQ Fan
Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 122
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I bought How to Grill this week and have found it to be a very good book. I like the pics showing how to prep/cut the meats.
He's definately not a good 'ol boy, and some of his comments can seem snide depending on the context in which you read them. Plus, it seems at times that the style trumps the food, but I will use the info mainly for thr prep and technique info. |
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gizmofish Newbie
Joined: 08 Jan 2007 Posts: 41 Location: Sand Springs, OK.
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| Alien BBQ wrote: | | That’s about the size of it. Steve is a griller and seldom ventures into the smoking realm. He does some BBQing and calls it smoking but while his grilling info is great, his smoking info is more wives tales and misinformation. |
Ditto:
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allsmokenofire BBQ All Star

Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Posts: 5051 Location: Oklahoma
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| Mike Lawry wrote: | Click the link above + read his Brisket FAQ.
Tell us what you think Alien, ? Seems good to me.
At least a good starting point.
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I agree ML...I've never read them before, but they seem pretty solid to me.
We've discussed some of those points here before...some even got pretty heated(hard to imagine ). I'd be dang surprised if whoever wrote those FAQs wasn't a regular lurker here. Think I'll read the other ones while I'm at it...thanks for the link! _________________ Mike
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Hoochie-Que BBQ Fan

Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 371 Location: Park City, UT
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Well, he is definitely more of a "griller"... But if I am not mistaken, he began using a BDS smoker in some of his classes to smoke with this past year... _________________ Dr. Mike
Hoochie-Que BBQ Team / KCBS CBJ
"Jesus Loved Barbeque, Too" - Kinky Friedman |
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BBQMAN BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 15475 Location: Florida
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| Hoochie-Que wrote: | | Well, he is definitely more of a "griller"... But if I am not mistaken, he began using a BDS smoker in some of his classes to smoke with this past year... |
You are correct Hoochie-Que! Steve has become a fan of BDS smokers, and there is a direct link to Rocky's site at his (at least last time I was there). I'm sure there is a connection somewhere! Hey, if Steve has gotten into cooking real Q on a 55 gallon drum, he's ok by me!  _________________ BBQMAN
"I Turned A Hobby Into A Business".
Providing "IMHO" Since 2005. |
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skybob BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 1533 Location: Wichita, KS
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Posted: Feb 13 2007 Post subject: |
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I've got one of his books and can't say that I was really impressed with it. Every recipe is the same except for a different ingredient. Of course, that's what different recipes do, but he surely wastes a lot of paper that way.
I just read his brisket FAQ and it does a very good job explaining the 165 plateau. |
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adolpho BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posts: 1067 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Feb 13 2007 Post subject: |
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Steve's OK. I've watched his TV show and have BBQ USA. I've learned a few things from these sources and I've questioned trying some of the things he does, but I do that with the advice given on this forum too. Do I tell other posters you're not a good cook because I don't agree with what they're talking about? Nope, and for the same reason, it's just something I don't want to try and that's that.
Of course since he has a TV show and books out, it opens him up for public criticism. Also, everyone is entitled to an opinion, and some can like or dislike a celebrity cook.
BTW...The FAQs was impressive. I'm with some of the others and think someone else wrote that out since it doesn't follow the normal tone of how Steve writes. But I'm sure he approved it before it went public. _________________ "Tag line? We don't need no stinkin' tag line!"
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loomis1228 BBQ Pro
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 608 Location: Lexington, KY
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I enjoy his website (mostly to look at pics people posted) and his books but I DO NOT understand why everyone treats him like some icon. Go to his website and people will post things like, "I met Steve and I will never wash my hand ever again!"--well that's an exageration but not too awfully far off. _________________ Jesse Gabbard
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RockPirate
Joined: 21 Jan 2007 Posts: 9
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Posted: Feb 13 2007 Post subject: |
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My wife brought this up to me as to why she does not like him and it is something I never noticed.
He pretty much wears the same shirt every single episode. Not sure why that is?
Bryan |
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Alien BBQ BBQ All Star

Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 5426 Location: Roswell, New Mexico
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I think this explains a lot.............................
"In 1975, Raichlen received a Thomas J. Watson Foundation Fellowship to study medieval cooking in Europe. He trained at the Cordon Bleu and La Varenne cooking schools in Paris and was La Varenne's first program coordinator in North America. Raichlen was born in Japan, raised in Baltimore, Maryland, and educated at Reed College in Portland, Oregon, where he graduated Phi Beta Kappa with a degree in French literature. He currently lives in Coconut Grove, Florida, with his wife, publicist Barbara Seldin. His hobbies include biking and sailing. " _________________ https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaeloberry |
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adolpho BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posts: 1067 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Feb 14 2007 Post subject: |
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| RockPirate wrote: | My wife brought this up to me as to why she does not like him and it is something I never noticed.
He pretty much wears the same shirt every single episode. Not sure why that is?
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Now that's funny because I tend to wear the same clothes whenever I cookout. I do it because I don't want to ruin a lot of shirts with hard to get out stains and such. Maybe I should wear an apron more often since I only wear them when I want to keep from staining a new shirt. You know us big guys, we have a larger area for spots and even have a plateau. What's Steve's excuse?????? _________________ "Tag line? We don't need no stinkin' tag line!"
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Alien BBQ BBQ All Star

Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 5426 Location: Roswell, New Mexico
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Posted: Feb 14 2007 Post subject: |
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I went to Ebay and bought some traditional black BBQ Chefs coats /shirts that are great for cooking in. Lots of room and easy to clean and only $12 a piece which is less than some of my shirts. _________________ https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaeloberry |
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