FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 


To peel or not to peel that is the question

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    The Smoke Ring Forum Index -> Commercial BBQ
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
qfanatic01
BBQ Pro


Joined: 21 Oct 2009
Posts: 768
Location: Champlin, MN

PostPosted: Apr 22 2013    Post subject: To peel or not to peel that is the question Reply with quote

I received a note online today suggesting I peel my ribs. I used to peel years before I had my own raunt. But we used frozen ribs so it was easy and in the places I worked they had ribs as a menu item on an American style menu selling a half dozen racks a night. We sold nearly 100 racks last night, our busiest night ever as well. Anyway, I smoke my ribs on foil lined racks for a couple of reasons. First it keeps my pits cleaner. Second it keeps the moisture under my ribs, which I believe gives me a moister rib and also helps break down the membrane and tenderize the ribs. I have never gotten this comment before here in the last 5 plus years. I sent a nice reply thanking him for his comment and explaining the amount of time in my already long day that it would take to peel 50 plus ribs a day. Does everyone else peel their ribs? In comp. I peel after smoking, a lot easier. I guess I'm glad I have not spent all that time over the years peelin' um. I wrote to the guy; I wonder how many of the big name places in KC and Memphis are peeling theirs? Just thought it was a good question to ask here.
_________________
The lessons are in the customer's criticism. They aren't always right. The rewards are their satisfaction.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Geronimo
BBQ Super Pro


Joined: 29 Jul 2007
Posts: 2896
Location: Montgomery, Texas (and lovin' it)

PostPosted: Apr 22 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

of course I don't own, manage, or work at a BBQ restaurant but I do frequent several different ones every year.

Even though I do at home (smoking 2-3 racks at a time) I can't remember a single restaurant (and I am talking Texas) that peel their ribs.

I know this has been the subject of several (hot) threads in the past but when I had my catering business, I smoked a lot of ribs (seems nearly every job was ribs and 1-2 other meats) and I never peeled my ribs either for the same reason as you.

I don't care how "good" you are at doing it, it is a TON of extra work for not a lot of gain.
_________________
Where rumors end and legend lives forever...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Harry Nutczak
BBQ All Star


Joined: 01 Mar 2007
Posts: 8558
Location: The Northwoods

PostPosted: Apr 22 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I peel them for a few different reasons.
I use STL trim spares, so I see a fattier rib that back ribs.

I find that it helps the fat render out of the ribs as opposed to it being trapped there by the membrane.
I also do not like the texture of the membrane on a finished rib.
The few occasions where I grill the ribs to finish them, I'll slash the membrane (before cooking) with a sharp knife, and it helps it peel off by itself when running them across the grill and lets the fat drain away.

We can blow through peeling a case of ribs in very short order, I start at about the 3rd bone, once I get a finger under that I peel to the closest edge, then I have a nice large piece to grip to rip the rest off.

When I roast hogs, I also peel the membrane our from the inside,

Peeling ribs is also a nice little job that my guys can earn as punishment on those days when I wake up with only one nerve left, and one of the guys decides to dry hump it.
_________________
Just remember that the toes you may step on during your climb to the top will also be attached to the a$$es you'll be forced to kiss on your way back down!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
GeorgeH
BBQ Super Fan


Joined: 30 Aug 2009
Posts: 445
Location: Arkansas, between Little Rock and Fort Smith

PostPosted: Apr 22 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always peel them at home. The membrane is tough and dry with no flavor. You really should peel the ribs for competition before you cook them. The rub and smoke don't penetrate the membrane. As far as your restaurant goes, I don't know. If the membrane is tender, it might be ok to not peel them. I have not tried your cooking method.

George
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Mr Tony's BBQ
BBQ All Star


Joined: 01 Aug 2010
Posts: 5067
Location: Fredonia Wi

PostPosted: Apr 22 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont peel - I simply slash the membrane so rub and smoke can penetrate, excess fat can run out. I have never heard a complaint about them.
_________________
Money Maker
Scrapper
Mr Tony's Kitchen http://www.thesmokering.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=67601
Being Blessed with income from my passion!
WWW.MRTONYSBBQ.COM
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
pitmaster t
BBQ Fan


Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 191
Location: mansfeild ga.

PostPosted: Apr 22 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

We peel. We don't go thru 100 racks a day though. We do get close to that in the 3 days a week we are open. When we wash them we just turn them on their side for a second and most of the time the water seperates the membrane enough to do the old "one finger and grab" technique. Now I will say this. If I sold 100 racks of ribs a day and only 1 person complained I don't think I would change much.

I guess we all go thru this. One says "my ribs are to warm. Another says "my ribs aren't warm enough. Yet another says "my ribs are just right". Hmmmm, sounds like a story I heard years ago. Laughing Laughing Laughing Anyway if 99% of the people are happy I call that a good day
_________________
Due to recent cutbacks the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off!!!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Bbq Bubba
BBQ Pro


Joined: 29 Mar 2007
Posts: 503
Location: New Baltimore Mich.

PostPosted: Apr 23 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peel after washing? wash your ribs?

I do not peel. The membrane makes for a moister product. Fat is flavor and i DO NOT want it dripping out. Maybe its the smoker or the technique used but you'd be hard pressed to even know the membrane is still there when served.
_________________
2013 BBQ Person of the Year
Pitmaster at Lockharts BBQ in Royal Oak Mi.
I cook the best brisket north of Dallas.
Northern midwest director for Operation BBQ Relief
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
MikeJack
Newbie


Joined: 11 Jul 2012
Posts: 42

PostPosted: Apr 23 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

One comment in five years AND you sold 100 racks last night?? Thank the guy for being a customer and for giving his feedback then go on about your day..
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Harry Nutczak
BBQ All Star


Joined: 01 Mar 2007
Posts: 8558
Location: The Northwoods

PostPosted: Apr 23 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, if you're not peeling ribs, what task do you assign as punishment to the employee(s) who got on your nerves that day?

Scrubbing garbage cans?
Draining the pits?
Deliming the dish machine?
Bleaching the walk-in cooler walls & floors?

These are all things done daily/weekly by me, and if nobody is a pain in my arse, I do them myself.
_________________
Just remember that the toes you may step on during your climb to the top will also be attached to the a$$es you'll be forced to kiss on your way back down!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Mr Tony's BBQ
BBQ All Star


Joined: 01 Aug 2010
Posts: 5067
Location: Fredonia Wi

PostPosted: Apr 24 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harry Nutczak wrote:
So, if you're not peeling ribs, what task do you assign as punishment to the employee(s) who got on your nerves that day?

Scrubbing garbage cans?
Draining the pits?
Deliming the dish machine?
Bleaching the walk-in cooler walls & floors?

These are all things done daily/weekly by me, and if nobody is a pain in my arse, I do them myself.


Personally, I feel that anyone putting up with me jacked up on energy drinks 6-10 hours a day is punishment enough on average....
_________________
Money Maker
Scrapper
Mr Tony's Kitchen http://www.thesmokering.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=67601
Being Blessed with income from my passion!
WWW.MRTONYSBBQ.COM
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Ridge View BBQ
BBQ Pro


Joined: 11 Nov 2007
Posts: 827
Location: Charleston WV West Virginia

PostPosted: Apr 24 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeJack wrote:
One comment in five years AND you sold 100 racks last night?? Thank the guy for being a customer and for giving his feedback then go on about your day..


X2
_________________
www.ridgeviewbbq.com
http://www.facebook.com/RidgeViewBBQ
Lang 108
Wells Cargo 20' Concession Trailer w/porch 24"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
rubbbq
BBQ Fan


Joined: 28 Feb 2011
Posts: 174
Location: Chicago, IL

PostPosted: Apr 25 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our rib provider, Wichita Packing Company, peels the ribs for us - charges us 10 cents/slab....well worth it

ask your meat provider if they'll do it for you if you decide you wanna go that route.
_________________
Love what I'm doing, doing what I love
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Harry Nutczak
BBQ All Star


Joined: 01 Mar 2007
Posts: 8558
Location: The Northwoods

PostPosted: Apr 25 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

rubbbq wrote:
Our rib provider, Wichita Packing Company, peels the ribs for us - charges us 10 cents/slab....well worth it

ask your meat provider if they'll do it for you if you decide you wanna go that route.


I will continue to peel my own at that cost,

Lets look at QFanatics volume with that $0.10/rack charge and consider that not peeling ribs, or having an employee who is already on the clock peeling ribs and you will have $3,000.00-$3,500.00 savings annually that can be used on many other things such as chemical supplies, insurance, etc.

My point, nickels and dimes add up very quickly to an amount that would shock most any restaurant owner.
_________________
Just remember that the toes you may step on during your climb to the top will also be attached to the a$$es you'll be forced to kiss on your way back down!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
rubbbq
BBQ Fan


Joined: 28 Feb 2011
Posts: 174
Location: Chicago, IL

PostPosted: Apr 27 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Lets look at QFanatics volume with that $0.10/rack charge and consider that not peeling ribs, or having an employee who is already on the clock peeling ribs and you will have $3,000.00-$3,500.00 savings annually that can be used on many other things such as chemical supplies, insurance, etc.


the other day, when he sold 100 racks..thats $10. I guarantee you - a $10/hr employee could not peel 100 racks in an hour.
_________________
Love what I'm doing, doing what I love
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Harry Nutczak
BBQ All Star


Joined: 01 Mar 2007
Posts: 8558
Location: The Northwoods

PostPosted: Apr 27 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

rubbbq wrote:
Quote:
Lets look at QFanatics volume with that $0.10/rack charge and consider that not peeling ribs, or having an employee who is already on the clock peeling ribs and you will have $3,000.00-$3,500.00 savings annually that can be used on many other things such as chemical supplies, insurance, etc.


the other day, when he sold 100 racks..thats $10. I guarantee you - a $10/hr employee could not peel 100 racks in an hour.


I believe that you're basing your assumption that a person is specifically hired and paid to peel ribs.

We peel our ribs during downtime, the same time which I am still paying that employee hourly, and would rather get some productivity out of them as opposed to standing around playing with their phone or doing other meaningless things just to look busy.

So I still stand by my original annual cost estimates.
_________________
Just remember that the toes you may step on during your climb to the top will also be attached to the a$$es you'll be forced to kiss on your way back down!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
rubbbq
BBQ Fan


Joined: 28 Feb 2011
Posts: 174
Location: Chicago, IL

PostPosted: Apr 28 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I believe that you're basing your assumption that a person is specifically hired and paid to peel ribs.


No, but I am assuming the person is ONLY doing that task for a couple hours.

...I'd rather have a guy cleaning. There is always cleaning to do - smokers, equipment, walk in coolers, etc.

It will take about a minute a slab to peel those ribs (if you're fast) - so the $$ would be almost double - and that's if he's quick about it....just sayin' - for me, it makes more sense to pay the pros to do it - though I do agree with your statement about dimes and nickels adding up, for me the simple math is I can pay my packer $10 or an in store employee $20.
_________________
Love what I'm doing, doing what I love
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
daddywoofdawg
BBQ Super Pro


Joined: 22 Jul 2008
Posts: 3892
Location: Starkweather,ND

PostPosted: May 01 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I slash mine.
_________________
Good BBQ is all smoke and beers!
The Dawghouse Custom vertical Gasser
Custom Made offset smoker
Char grill smoker
Weber kettle
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
camdentom
BBQ Super Fan


Joined: 22 Feb 2007
Posts: 435
Location: St Peter, Mn

PostPosted: May 03 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

We average 30 to 35 racks a day. We peel. I just don't like the tug of unpeeled.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
YardFullOfOak
BBQ Fan


Joined: 10 Apr 2011
Posts: 208
Location: In the woods of Sweden

PostPosted: May 04 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

camdentom wrote:
We average 30 to 35 racks a day. We peel. I just don't like the tug of unpeeled.


So, how is business? We haven't heard for a while...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
camdentom
BBQ Super Fan


Joined: 22 Feb 2007
Posts: 435
Location: St Peter, Mn

PostPosted: May 05 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Business is pretty good. We had 320 people through the restaurant yesterday. One of our better days. I'll start a thread soon with pics and updates. Thanks for asking.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    The Smoke Ring Forum Index -> Commercial BBQ All times are GMT + 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group