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PostPosted: Jan 29 2007    Post subject: Maverick ET-73 Antenna Mods... Reply with quote

I first stumble across this thread Maverick Antenna Tweak on the VWB website last week and have been thinking about trying it. I was going to start a discussion about it here and since it was mentioned in the other Mav thread I figured what better time than now?

So has anyone over here tried this? I don't really have a big issue with reception on mine, but reading about how some guys are getting a signal down in their basement makes me wonder just how good it can be!

If I do play around with mine I will snap some photo's to post.
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PostPosted: Jan 29 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got mine for Christmas and had to return it having a range of only three feet. The new one has a range of 100' in line of site directly facing the transmitter. Inside the range is very limited. This is a great find. Iread through all ten pages with interest. Will open mine in the next few days and see check it out.
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PostPosted: Jan 29 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do realize that the link you posted goes to a thread from June 2005? It may be a bit dated at this point. It could, also, be quite relevant. Most fm radios use the wire loop antenna. It usually runs around the perimeter of the casing. Simply free it up, file a slot in the case and let it dangle. One additional word of advice: Tie a knot in the wire just before it exits the case as a stress relief. This can prevent the wire from being yanked out.

Let us know what you find. I'm considering the purchasing of one of these units. I need to know the limitatons

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PostPosted: Jan 29 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

gizmofish wrote:
You do realize that the link you posted goes to a thread from June 2005? ...

Neil


If you follow the thread it has recent posts and updates from just a few days ago. The underlying issue is that there is not a "wire-loop" antenna on the recievers. I just opened up mine (rev. 2.2) and it looks internally just like the ones in that thread - no wire-type of antenna. They are depending on a printed circuit loop for the antenna. With the addition of a small jumper and a short piece of wire you may be able to extend the range.

I will start measuring unmodified distances with mine tomorrow, then do the mod and measure the results when I have time and post my findings.

Like I said, mine works OK for me right now but if I can optimize it (or give it more power), well that's just how I am!
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PostPosted: Jan 29 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is very interesting. Please keep posting the updates. I have seen those dodads they stick on the side of cell phones to increase their range. I wonder if something like that would also work??????
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PostPosted: Jan 30 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

gizmofish wrote:
You do realize that the link you posted goes to a thread from June 2005? It may be a bit dated at this point. It could, also, be quite relevant.


I just purchased this unit new and did the mod on it.

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Most fm radios use the wire loop antenna. It usually runs around the perimeter of the casing. Simply free it up, file a slot in the case and let it dangle. One additional word of advice: Tie a knot in the wire just before it exits the case as a stress relief. This can prevent the wire from being yanked out.


Putting any kind of loop/knot that causes the antenna to cross over itself is not good for the effectiveness for the antenna.
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PostPosted: Jan 30 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I opened mine up and like all the rest, no internal antenna beyound the circuit board loop.

I was getting read to place a wire in the vacant hole when I noticed a post tht said he soildered the wire across the three pads next to each other. I thought the mod only added a 6.54" wire to the vacant hole.
I am confused now for sure.
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PostPosted: Jan 30 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rubit wrote:
I opened mine up and like all the rest, no internal antenna beyound the circuit board loop.

I was getting read to place a wire in the vacant hole when I noticed a post tht said he soildered the wire across the three pads next to each other. I thought the mod only added a 6.54" wire to the vacant hole.
I am confused now for sure.


The one hole is not connected to anything on the board cept the pad to it's left. Connecting an antenna to that one hole helps reception a bit but not a big difference.

It appears that the two pads on the left are for a component addition that would be inline for the hole on the right to go inline with the antenna but didn't happen.

Pad 1 on the left is connected to the circuitry.

Pad 2 hole 1 are connected to eachother via a trace but nothing else since there is nothing connected between pads 1 and 2.

If you want to connect the antenna to the circuitry connect it to the 1st pad on the left. I chose to solder mine across all three for strength.
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PostPosted: Jan 30 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got it, will make the mod shortly.
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PostPosted: Jan 30 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took a break from work and did the mod on the maverick. After quite a bit if testing, I figured I gained about 10% range.

I am not convinced we have the antenna length right since the total length that we need is 6.54 ". The circuit boar loop is say 1 1/2" in length. I’m no expert so anyone with the knowledge, jump in.

If you do not know your way around a circuit board, I would skip this one or find someone who has worked with boards before.

I did find this really good design link.
http://www.rfm.com/support/apnotes/antenna.pdf
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PostPosted: Jan 30 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

6.48" is the quarter wave length for this device per that link. Someone posted the calculation.

Folks that did receive the unit a ways back when they properly shipped with antennas attached said the antennas were around 10" or so.

Given that loop trace is an antenna, not sure how you'd figure a aerial length other than the 6.48" length?
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PostPosted: Jan 30 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the design link I provided above they talk about a coil and a loop on the board like we have. In the older units it could be they had an antena but not the coil and the loop. Wild guess for sure.

If time permits I might add a few feet of wire then start cutting it down until it gets better. Or maybe worse.
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PostPosted: Jan 30 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you think 18GA is a bit large for an antenna wire? Not sure just asking.
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62trvler wrote:
Do you think 18GA is a bit large for an antenna wire? Not sure just asking.


I read the information on antenna design and the author wrote of the effect of size indicating a larger size could reduce the length. Other than that, I haven't a clue.

I am not even sure how much a difference getting it exactly right has over being an inch to long or short. I know they said if it is way wrong it will decrease the range.

Other words, I'm like a fresh butt in a barbecue pit, I'm in the dark but I’m not done yet.
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I was just going by my old hobby of RC cars and planes. The antenna wires were fairly small AWG and were placed in a thick plastic sleeve to hold them upright. I believe you can get the sleeve at hobby stores (Riders Hobby, ETC) It was around a 24 AWG stranded wire but not sure. I guess a guy could stop in sometime and see what they are using on their electronics and try the same but if yours is working it's mission accomplished.
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62trvler wrote:
I was just going by my old hobby of RC cars and planes. .


I use to design my own planes. Still have several radios and engines. Great sport. Have you seen the new jet engines? Wow!
3 to 5K jet engines.
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I haven't been in it for years now but stop in the store every now and then to drool. I still have a couple planes I never finished and a boat. I have been here now for over 2 years so I bet a lot has changed. Jets sound like a great thing to watch as I can't fly.
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I found this site for increasing your wireless computer network range and thought it would be fun to try on the maverick. If you go to the bottom of the page you will see an easy to build pie plate reflector. Might not work at all but it will be fun to play with just to see.

http://www.freeantennas.com/projects/outdoor_ap/index.html
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62trvler wrote:
I was just going by my old hobby of RC cars and planes. The antenna wires were fairly small AWG and were placed in a thick plastic sleeve to hold them upright. I believe you can get the sleeve at hobby stores (Riders Hobby, ETC) It was around a 24 AWG stranded wire but not sure. I guess a guy could stop in sometime and see what they are using on their electronics and try the same but if yours is working it's mission accomplished.


Me too. Cool We use pieces of servo horns for stress relief. Just heard and read a few times that you're not supposed to cross the antenna over itself of tie knots. Not sure technically how much of an impact it really has.

I've kit built a Sig LT-40 and a Sig Somethin' Extra. Good fun!
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I built my own R/C smokers and was in on two video shoots with the designer of the Goldberg Ultimate. Can't think of his name right now, a Candain. It was a few years back. A great plane to fly on a 120 4cycle
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