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Griffin BBQ Pro
Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 801 Location: Dallas, Texas
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Posted: Sep 11 2012 Post subject: Scales |
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I know people have suggested using scales when measuring out ingredients to make sausage rather than using cups, tsps, tsp, etc. I was wondering if anybody had any recommendations on digital scales? I did a quick look on amazon just to get ideas of prices, and they don't seem to be too much, running from about $10 to around $50. So does anybody have one they recommend or features to look out for? _________________ www.griffinsgrub.wordpress.com |
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Jarhead BBQ All Star

Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 7355 Location: Marionville, Home of the White Squirrels, Missouri
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Rocko-la BBQ Super Fan
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Griffin BBQ Pro
Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 801 Location: Dallas, Texas
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Thanks for the recommendations. I'm a chemist at a lab, so I know all about the tare function and switching between ounces and grams and stuff, but our scales are a bit more fancy (and expensive) than what I figure was needed in a kitchen.
Reading some reviews, I saw some issues with batteries. Is it best to go with a battery powered one or a plug in? _________________ www.griffinsgrub.wordpress.com |
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Jarhead BBQ All Star

Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 7355 Location: Marionville, Home of the White Squirrels, Missouri
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Posted: Sep 11 2012 Post subject: |
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When I'm making sausage, I got enough stuff on my counter and don't need to be fighting a wire.
Mine have an auto off switch. I don't like it, so I just leave it on until I get the spices weighed out. I get all of my ingredients in a line and a plastic cup in front of each one. Just go down the line and you are done. I use the auto off when weighing meat. Usually 8.8 pounds or 4 kg in a hotel pan.
These use a 9 v battery. I've made several batches of sausage with em so far and the battery is still going strong. I use the cheap RayOVac alkalines from WM or the Walgreen ones. _________________ Gunny 3073/4044/8411
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Kevin P BBQ Super Fan

Joined: 09 Apr 2011 Posts: 422 Location: Sunny Northern California
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Posted: Sep 12 2012 Post subject: |
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I have several scales I use in the kitchen.
This little guy is very handy for small stuff ( VERY small amounts of spice and the like).
CD-sized & (100 x 0.01 grams)
One I picked up from Amazon. A bit pricey, but I like using it: "The Salter Aquatronic scale means no more measuring cups. This series measures both dry and liquid ingredients on the same scale with the push of a button.Makes mixing ingredients a whole lot simplier and faster."
Weighs to 11 pounds/5kg in increments of 1/8oz/1gram
Weighs to 175 Fluid ounce/5000ml in increments of 1/8 fl ounce/1ml
For large scale measuring (initial weighing of meat, bulk ingredients; nice because the stainless bowl is removable so I can place it in the fridge after weighing it's content.
Will hold up to 40lbs. From Overstock.com
-Kevin |
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KP Duty BBQ Fan

Joined: 21 May 2012 Posts: 176 Location: Oklahoma City OK
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Posted: Sep 12 2012 Post subject: |
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We got the 11lb stainless version, works well. _________________ If veggies tasted more like meat, we'd all be healthier!
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Harry Nutczak BBQ All Star

Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 8558 Location: The Northwoods
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Posted: Sep 12 2012 Post subject: |
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Because I may have several different things happening at once when making sausage, jerky or whatever. I have found a 30 LB capacity Hobart scale with a printer is very handy. I can print my weights of meat so I do not goof up on salt and cure ratios, I can also check yields and price accordingly.
I have a small digital reloading scale I use for weighing cure, I think it is marketed by Hornady, I didn't like it for reloading, so it got relegated to my kitchen.
Now if you want the ultimate, get the Lyman Powder handling system, and fill that with your salt and spices, it will weigh them out automatically once programmed. (overkill, but cool) _________________ Just remember that the toes you may step on during your climb to the top will also be attached to the a$$es you'll be forced to kiss on your way back down! |
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RodinBangkok BBQ Super Fan

Joined: 30 Dec 2006 Posts: 491 Location: Bangkok Thailand
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Posted: Sep 12 2012 Post subject: |
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We use a Digi DI-80 station with 2 platforms. The small one is max 1 kg and very good for small quantites high accuracy, the large is I think 30Kg, you just push a button to switch platforms. Has all sorts of memory features, and is approved for commercial sales use. Ours is over 10 years old and never had a problem. Overkill for home use, but great for portioning, as you can set it for over under and in range when scaling product. I can recommend this one for a long term investment.
I don't like those little ones with the round platforms and lcd close to the platform, as if you put a bowl on it you can't see the readouts. Also be carefull of the auto shut off, it can be a real hassle if you can't disable it and your in the middle of scaling something and the stupid thing shuts off.
A hint for you Harry, if you set up your formulations with an additive calculation for weight including the bowl, you never get lost. The SS bowls we use to mix have a known weight and our formulas are set up so your readouts are additive, something like:
50cm SSbowl: .456Kg (.456Kg)
Pork blend1: 5.456Kg (5.0Kg)
Water: 6.25Kg (.794Kg)....
and so on, so if the power goes off you get interupted, etc you know the last ingredient added by the static weight of the mix.
Makes the formulation more fool proof. _________________ Rod |
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Harry Nutczak BBQ All Star

Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 8558 Location: The Northwoods
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Posted: Sep 12 2012 Post subject: |
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| RodinBangkok wrote: |
A hint for you Harry, if you set up your formulations with an additive calculation for weight including the bowl, you never get lost. The SS bowls we use to mix have a known weight and our formulas are set up so your readouts are additive, something like:
50cm SSbowl: .456Kg (.456Kg)
Pork blend1: 5.456Kg (5.0Kg)
Water: 6.25Kg (.794Kg)....
and so on, so if the power goes off you get interupted, etc you know the last ingredient added by the static weight of the mix.
Makes the formulation more fool proof. |
I use A percentage system, because I never start with the same weight of meat.
For instance, I grab a 2-pack of butts, grind them, get my weight of meat, and work from that weight as my 100% starting point and scale the rest to fit whatever amount of meat I may be using.
It is a technique borrowed from the baking end of things that I use for sausage. The math can be a little overwhelming at first, but it gets real easy with time.
Here is a link to the way it works http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker_percentage
this allows you to start with any weight of meat instead of needing specific formulation weights of meat.
And you thought you would never need algebra in real life  _________________ Just remember that the toes you may step on during your climb to the top will also be attached to the a$$es you'll be forced to kiss on your way back down! |
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Jarhead BBQ All Star

Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 7355 Location: Marionville, Home of the White Squirrels, Missouri
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He!! Harry, I flunked sex education (but I loved the homework) and you want me to know what you're talking about there?  _________________ Gunny 3073/4044/8411
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SmokenDevo Newbie
Joined: 04 Apr 2011 Posts: 68
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Posted: Sep 13 2012 Post subject: |
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I noticed your getting into charcuterie over at wedlinydomowe.pl. You will need to get comfortable with using percentages for charcuterie recipes. Everything is a percentage value of the meat weight – since you will never have a piece of meat that weighs exactly the same as the author of the recipe, ratios are important here.
Your buddy Chuckwagon over at http://wedlinydomowe.pl can explain it very well if you need help. |
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RodinBangkok BBQ Super Fan

Joined: 30 Dec 2006 Posts: 491 Location: Bangkok Thailand
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Posted: Sep 13 2012 Post subject: |
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[/quote]
I use A percentage system, because I never start with the same weight of meat.
For instance, I grab a 2-pack of butts, grind them, get my weight of meat, and work from that weight as my 100% starting point and scale the rest to fit whatever amount of meat I may be using.
It is a technique borrowed from the baking end of things that I use for sausage. The math can be a little overwhelming at first, but it gets real easy with time.
Here is a link to the way it works http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker_percentage
this allows you to start with any weight of meat instead of needing specific formulation weights of meat.
And you thought you would never need algebra in real life [/quote]
Already built into my software.
Percentage is the only way to work. In our batch section it calculates the cum weight, issues stock, and prints a work order. Batch history is maintained with a lot number on the label also printed by the software. _________________ Rod |
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Harry Nutczak BBQ All Star

Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 8558 Location: The Northwoods
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Posted: Sep 14 2012 Post subject: |
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Rod,
Nice!!!! _________________ Just remember that the toes you may step on during your climb to the top will also be attached to the a$$es you'll be forced to kiss on your way back down! |
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SmokenDevo Newbie
Joined: 04 Apr 2011 Posts: 68
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Posted: Sep 15 2012 Post subject: |
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A friend of mine made these spread sheets and I find them very useful.
Here is a base excel spread sheet that will recalculate your spices for different batch sizes.
It will allow you to change sausage batch sizes and all the spices are recalculated for you, including the cure weights.
Just down load it from google docs. and put in your own recipe.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1ttuCf0F334eF9DSGQzOGUxQkk/edit
And here is a excel spread sheet for a spice conversion file. It is to change everything to grams.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1ttuCf0F334Y1U5cWZwOWdHNkk/edit
You will have to have a gram scale but they are rather cheap and you will have to convert your recipes to grams but I have provided a conversion chart for that. Converting things to weights allows the sheet to recalculate the spice weights as you change batch sizes. Just remember you need to go to FILE in the upper left hand corner and hit DOWNLOAD. |
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Jarhead BBQ All Star

Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 7355 Location: Marionville, Home of the White Squirrels, Missouri
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Posted: Sep 15 2012 Post subject: |
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Thanks Devo. They look interesting and a whole lot of work to redo my recipes.
Now if only Evernote and Open Office Calc would play together.  _________________ Gunny 3073/4044/8411
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