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WhereZdaBeef
Joined: 25 Feb 2012 Posts: 16
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Posted: Feb 25 2012 Post subject: 5 hour smoke...need more time! |
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Ok, so im new here. I kinda do my own thing, so im not too keen on the inter-webs. But, I have a dilemma. I am pressed for time, so i could not start smoking when i wanted to. I ended up having to start smoking at 6pm est till 11pm est. That was a 5 hour smoke at roughly 190-200F. From there it went into a a foil wrap, and into a cooler. At around 12 midnight i placed it into an oven set at 205-210F and i need to have this peak at 190F internal by 5pm-6pm tommorow. That is roughly 24 hours from initial smoke time. How can i prevent this from drying out, or over cooking?
I forgot to mention this is a 8 1/2 lb pork boston butt
If you have any questions, please ask.
My understanding is that i should allow 1.5-2 hours per pound to cook. That range would be 18 hours at most. Should i temp guage at 12 noon (12 hours from inital time placed in oven) and if close to 190F internal, remove from oven and wrap in foil and cooler till time to serve, or is there any other way? |
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SoEzzy BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 13183 Location: SLC, UT
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Posted: Feb 25 2012 Post subject: |
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How long has it been cooking?
You're are really looking at 1:20 x 8.5 = 11 hours 20 minutes at 225 -250, you might need an extra hour in total, and at the end of that you could hold it 5 hours in a cooler, but it sounds like you need to hold a total of 24 hours.
If I was in your shoes, I'd cook it until it is done in a pan in the oven, then allow it to cool as completely as you can, then wrap the top of the pan in saran wrap, and then foil.
Put the oven on again about 2 hours before you want to eat at 225 - 230°, put the pan in the oven and reheat everything to above 160°! _________________ Here's a change Robert.
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WhereZdaBeef
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It has been cooking a total of 12 hours. We started smoking it @ 200F since 6pm est till 11pm est (5 hour smoke) At 12 midnight i placed it into a 200-210F oven and has been in there all night. Its now 7am est so thats was 7 hours for a total of 12 hours. I am going to check the internal temp of the meat soon and if below 190F i'll leave it go. If its above 190F then im in trouble i think. It should be no where near that temp. At those low cooking temps i should be ok up to 16-18 hours for a 8-9lb butt.
Just checked. Meat is 135F down to the center at the bone. |
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Canadian Bacon BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 13550 Location: Mississauga ON Canada
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I would have definitely cooked it till done and then pulled it , let it cool down,place in a foil pan and in the fridge over night,reheat the next day......you would hardly know the difference. _________________ Horizon Offset (Marshall RD Special)
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WhereZdaBeef
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| Canadian Bacon wrote: | | I would have definitely cooked it till done and then pulled it , let it cool down,place in a foil pan and in the fridge over night,reheat the next day......you would hardly know the difference. |
I have done this before, and to be honest its not as good as pulling it as you go and lightly drizzle bbq sauce on top. I think drowning the shredded pork in bbq sauce ruins the whole point of using a smoker. I could get the same results if i were to add liquid smoke to my bbq sauce and just roast it completely in the oven. I want to taste that moist sticky pork with that smokey flavor. |
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daddywoofdawg BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 3892 Location: Starkweather,ND
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Cover with foil and cook at 300-350,maybe a little AJ in the pan or foil.It will stall at 160ish for up to 3-4 hrs then it will let go and run up to 200 fast.if it gets up to 200-210 it's fine and shouldn't be dry.Most of us here pull at 195-200 and wrap and let rest an hr before pulling. _________________ Good BBQ is all smoke and beers!
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Canadian Bacon BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 13550 Location: Mississauga ON Canada
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My post has nothing to do with adding bbq sauce,I never even mentioned bbq sauce ..but for trying to hold that long and serving a dried out butt is not going to make for good bbq....lots of people cook and pull and serve the next day...when you reheat in the foil pan just add a tiny bit of apple juice for moisture when reheating. _________________ Horizon Offset (Marshall RD Special)
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daddywoofdawg BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 3892 Location: Starkweather,ND
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CB: I have to agree with you,I reread it twice and didn't see anything about BBQ sauce in your post. _________________ Good BBQ is all smoke and beers!
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Beertooth BBQ All Star

Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Posts: 5815 Location: Central Washington
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| Canadian Bacon wrote: | | I would have definitely cooked it till done and then pulled it , let it cool down,place in a foil pan and in the fridge over night,reheat the next day......you would hardly know the difference. |
I completely agree.
I have even froze PP in my vacuum sealer many times & reheated it at work in a microwave after drizzling a little water on it.
It comes out great! Others can't tell the difference. _________________ Camp Chef Pro90 Stove w/ Griddle
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WhereZdaBeef
Joined: 25 Feb 2012 Posts: 16
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Posted: Feb 26 2012 Post subject: |
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| Canadian Bacon wrote: | My post has nothing to do with adding bbq sauce,I never even mentioned bbq sauce ..but for trying to hold that long and serving a dried out butt is not going to make for good bbq....lots of people cook and pull and serve the next day...when you reheat in the foil pan just add a tiny bit of apple juice for moisture when reheating. |
Sorry i just assumed you meant shredding and putting bbq sauce on as that is what most people do when they shred and reheat. Otherwise it will get dried out when reheating(atleast it did for me) I had to pour pork stock over it to add moisture back and it just didnt taste the same.
Right now its stuck at 145F (been there for 3 hours) So i think now the concern is not being done in 6 hours..lol
I bumped the oven up to 225F now. |
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Beertooth BBQ All Star

Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Posts: 5815 Location: Central Washington
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If you are worried about it being done in time, bump the temp up to 250 - 270. It wont make much of a difference.
I have held fully cooked butts in a cooler with towels for hours & still have them too hot to handle. _________________ Camp Chef Pro90 Stove w/ Griddle
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WhereZdaBeef
Joined: 25 Feb 2012 Posts: 16
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Posted: Feb 26 2012 Post subject: |
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| Went up to 250-265ish. Another hour later its at 155F damn 3 hour left and i dont think its gonna reach 190F. |
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Tony BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 06 Feb 2005 Posts: 3486 Location: Rehoboth Beach ,Delaware
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| daddywoofdawg wrote: | | Cover with foil and cook at 300-350,maybe a little AJ in the pan or foil.It will stall at 160ish for up to 3-4 hrs then it will let go and run up to 200 fast.if it gets up to 200-210 it's fine and shouldn't be dry.Most of us here pull at 195-200 and wrap and let rest an hr before pulling. |
X 2...Do This.
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WhereZdaBeef
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Posted: Feb 26 2012 Post subject: |
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| Cranked the oven up to 275-285ish. Hour later its at 162F and climbing a bit faster. Hoping it reaches 200F in less then 2 hours. I really dont want to go over 300F on the oven because i have over cooked alot of meats in my oven at that temp. Just dont trust it. |
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Tony BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 06 Feb 2005 Posts: 3486 Location: Rehoboth Beach ,Delaware
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Keep Your Therm probe AWAY from the bone!
BTW...Exactly what type of device are You utilizing to monitor the internal meat temps?
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1buckie BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 10 May 2009 Posts: 3290 Location: Sacramento CA
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| Tony wrote: | Keep Your Therm probe AWAY from the bone!
BTW...Exactly what type of device are You utilizing to monitor the internal meat temps?
Best Regards,
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AND What color is said device ??? (It may indeed matter...)
Just love these play-by-plays.....Will it come out OK, or be a
pork train wreck? Stay tuned.....
Personally, I'll bet with all the great advice you've gotten,
WhereZdaBeef, it'll be just fine......
I'm grilling up some ribeyes & shrimp kabobs & ABT appetizers while I wait......
Pluggin' for ya !!! _________________ Have Fun Playin' with Yer Food !!!
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"I will prevail. No pig will ever get the better of me." ~~> Italian Skewer
It's gonna say on my tombstone: Died of thick, heavy sauces ~~~~>K
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WhereZdaBeef
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Posted: Feb 26 2012 Post subject: |
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Im using a digital meat thermometer with a probe. Its not really near the bone. The tip of the probe is pretty much dead center in the meat going in from the side with the cable going out to the base unit.
I still have the oven at 285F and the meat is at 175F and climbing. I just hope it doesnt reach another plateau. |
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Tony BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 06 Feb 2005 Posts: 3486 Location: Rehoboth Beach ,Delaware
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| WhereZdaBeef wrote: | Im using a digital meat thermometer with a probe. Its not really near the bone. The tip of the probe is pretty much dead center in the meat going in from the side with the cable going out to the base unit.
I still have the oven at 285F and the meat is at 175F and climbing. I just hope it doesnt reach another plateau. |
Just checked. Meat is 135F down to the center at the bone.
That is what You stated early on in this thread.
Thought I would clarify my point right off.
You are worrying WAY too much about a very forgiving hunk of meat doing what it does best...STALLS!
You're gonna' be fine! Remember You read it here:
"It's Done When It's Done!"
Good Luck and Best Regards,
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1buckie BBQ Super Pro

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6:00~~> Hope it climbed out OK........
Try Running everything (smoker / oven, etc.) at 240°
in the next round & it will make up those spare hours that you needed this time.....Hope it turned out good !!! _________________ Have Fun Playin' with Yer Food !!!
"Dam Silly Sumbitch"-- Myron Mixon
"I will prevail. No pig will ever get the better of me." ~~> Italian Skewer
It's gonna say on my tombstone: Died of thick, heavy sauces ~~~~>K
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WhereZdaBeef
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| Tony wrote: | | WhereZdaBeef wrote: | Im using a digital meat thermometer with a probe. Its not really near the bone. The tip of the probe is pretty much dead center in the meat going in from the side with the cable going out to the base unit.
I still have the oven at 285F and the meat is at 175F and climbing. I just hope it doesnt reach another plateau. |
Just checked. Meat is 135F down to the center at the bone.
That is what You stated early on in this thread.
Thought I would clarify my point right off.
You are worrying WAY too much about a very forgiving hunk of meat doing what it does best...STALLS!
You're gonna' be fine! Remember You read it here:
"It's Done When It's Done!"
Good Luck and Best Regards,
Tony  |
Yes originally i took a temp from the one side and pushed it in till i hit the bone. Then i moved it to dead center of the thickest part which is away from the bone.
Its at 190F and an hour over when i originally wanted it to be done, so we will be eating a bit late tonight but oh well. I am going to remove it from the oven when it reaches 195F and let it rest in a cooler for an hour. |
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