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plbass BBQ Fan
Joined: 21 Sep 2008 Posts: 187 Location: westford, Ma.
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Posted: Mon Feb 20 12 3:19 pm Post subject: mig welder help needed |
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| Using a Airco Dip Pak 200 for my smoker build. The tip is a push in and keeps coming out and getting wire welded in. Any ideas why this is happening? |
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mrcustomsteel BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 1994 Location: Bilings, still a Texan, MT
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Posted: Mon Feb 20 12 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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After some use, MIG tips get dirty, out of shape from ware, etc and may arc inside of that tip causing the wire to stick. The tips are "consumables" and need to be replaced fairly often. You might have some luck cleaning it with an Oxy/acet tip cleaner. Also blow the dust off of your wire, blow out your liner and get a felt wire cleaner. Your welding supply might have a part to allow that gun to accept screw in tips that may be cheaper. Good luck. I know that's frustrating as he!!. _________________ D. Tillery
Texan transplanted in Billings, MT
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plbass BBQ Fan
Joined: 21 Sep 2008 Posts: 187 Location: westford, Ma.
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Posted: Mon Feb 20 12 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the help. We tried cleaning the tip but didn't last long. We also put a new tip in and that didn't last long either. This past saturday we cleaned the tip again and it last about 2 hours of welding. I'll go to the supply house and see if they have a upgrade part to accept screw in tips. I will try cleaning the wire and liner. It's an older machine and has been sitting for a long while, do you think the liner may be bad? |
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plbass BBQ Fan
Joined: 21 Sep 2008 Posts: 187 Location: westford, Ma.
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Posted: Mon Feb 20 12 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| The welder is a Airco dip pak 200. From what i heard from the local welding supply is they were bought out and hard to find parts for. Now the search continues for a supply of tips. |
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MikeBuiltWhat Newbie
Joined: 25 Nov 2011 Posts: 35
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Posted: Wed Feb 22 12 4:03 am Post subject: |
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| Here is a thought on your problem. Are you using the proper stick out for the wire you are using? I only ask because if I don't the wire sticks in the tip. I get this problem with 3 different mig machines if I get careless and not watch the stick out. You also may want to check yoru gun liner. If the liner is old or kinked it can cause feed issues (keep the gun cable as straight as possible). |
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Blazer BBQ Fan

Joined: 07 Sep 2011 Posts: 229 Location: southeast ohio
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Posted: Wed Feb 22 12 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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If you still have issues you may want to check radnor, they make aftermarket gun's for a lot of different machines. They use a standard screw in tip.  |
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plbass BBQ Fan
Joined: 21 Sep 2008 Posts: 187 Location: westford, Ma.
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Posted: Sun Feb 26 12 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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Ended up ordering a new gun from Weld Mart. Thanks for all the help. I don't know much about welders but i do know to listen to the ones that do.  |
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Charro Newbie

Joined: 13 Oct 2011 Posts: 47 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Posted: Wed Feb 29 12 10:41 am Post subject: |
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| X2 on the liner, and make sure all connections for your gun are clean and tight. |
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Maniac BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 01 Oct 2010 Posts: 1269 Location: Pa
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Posted: Wed Feb 29 12 11:02 am Post subject: |
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i guess i'll throw my 2 cents in. check drive rollers (that is ) 1 set on proper wire size and 2 proper tension....no slippage. hope the new gun works out for you. last speed....to slow will cause that to.....and clean ground. _________________ RF Smoker
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X-Roughneck BBQ Fan

Joined: 20 Nov 2011 Posts: 207 Location: Mansfield,Il.
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Posted: Mon Mar 05 12 5:16 am Post subject: |
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| plbass wrote: | Ended up ordering a new gun from Weld Mart. Thanks for all the help. I don't know much about welders but i do know to listen to the ones that do.  |
plbass,does your machine or control speed box have a "burnback" control knob???
Also,are you using gas or flux core wire???
The drive wheel that feeds the wire might be double grooved too.If so,it is reversible.Take a close look at the 'wire groove'.Machines that age tend to widen the groove causing wire slipage.If that happens,it will cause the wire to weld to the tip,thus pushing the tip off.
Like others said,clean your liner,use a felt wire cleaner too.Straighten out the lead,pull the trigger and make SURE the wire feeds SMOOTH without any jumping.
I realize you ordered a new gun,but that may not be your only problem with this machine to make it spool smooth. |
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plbass BBQ Fan
Joined: 21 Sep 2008 Posts: 187 Location: westford, Ma.
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Posted: Sun Mar 11 12 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| The new gun did the trick. The old one had a bad liner. |
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