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250 gal fuel oil tank RF - it continues...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27 12 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony, I hope you get to feeling better. Go see a doctor to make sure nothing slipped loose or broke we do not heal like when we were young my Friend.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31 12 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the concern Kevin, and you all - went to my Chiro thios morning - other than being all twisted and stuck out of alignment, there doesnt seem to be any breaks - one internal tear in a very odd place though from the doing the splits episode shortly after the fall..... - feels like I've been eating habenero's the night before when I go to the reading room......but after a long, painful adjustment - my hips actually move! Taking today as a full rest day - just making some sauces etc.....not gonna touch the new smoker for at least a couple weeks - let that tear heal! I do think I am going to stick with the thin tank though - maybe run a couple pipes into it to act as rf plate or tuning plate concept....I have time to think it through! ANY ideas on that are appreciated!! I am thinking 2 - 4" pipes built to resemble the gas burner on a gas grill Question
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31 12 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RF flow whole hog If this doesnt work I will try again.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31 12 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Tony, Glad your feeling a little better. Very Happy
I'm sure the cooker will come out fine, take some recoup time and figure it out.
A few weeks of throwing ideas around will probably get you exactly what you want, lotta brain power around here,(myself excluded). Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31 12 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Running the numbers through the BBQ Pit/Smoker Building Calculator indicates that two 4"diameter pipes from the firebox to the cook chamber wiil be way undersized. If your firebox is sized to the 250 gal tank per the calculator, you will need about 150 square inches of opening from the firebox to the cook chamber. Two 10" diameter pipes would be more like it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31 12 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks on the math Catman - my statement was a Vicodin induced mathematical guess.....lol... it will probably be box tubing to save height, but still on meds - so no math for me!!!! Laughing Cool Very Happy My arsh still hurts.....
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02 12 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, take care of that arsh.....hope see you back in action in a couple weeks (if not sooner).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03 12 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr tony hope your doing ok . seems we get a "pita" when we don't need it. was fun watching this thread....get well soon.....
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06 12 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couldn't you run a steel pipe though from the firebox to the other end,smoke would go thought like a RF and wouldn't have to weld a RF plate,and still get radiant heat?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06 12 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daddywoofdawg wrote:
Couldn't you run a steel pipe though from the firebox to the other end,smoke would go thought like a RF and wouldn't have to weld a RF plate,and still get radiant heat?


That is my intention - thought doing it under would still radiate plenty due to lack of "thick" metal, but may just do so inside - issue then becomes design so I can clean unit relatively easily. Gonna start banging around on it a bit tonight, though my arsh is still hurtin pretty bad - I have a shop to use with lifts etc - and a guy who wants to have usage rights for helping out!!! His shop, his welders, his scrap steel.....win win for the both of us [ he dont get to use the Lang!!! Evil or Very Mad ]
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10 12 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK.. rear is good enough to get workin hard!
I started "shopping" in my friends pole barn, and around the outside in the steel piles he has incurred over the years - and decided to mount the tank in the upright position

I have been working on my welding skills, notice I have no close up pics!! Confused
I plan on making several racks, and loading this area with rails so I can do a lot of ribs, or 2 medium sized hogs - and all things in between


Its hard to see, but there is a 3/8" thick RF plate inside with a 3" angle iron drip run that simply runs out the front of the tank as I have had issues with my Lang pipe drain blocking up with frozen greaze this winter!! It will simply dump into a pan.... 3x3" overkill? Maybe....Using whatever steel is available!!

Spent most of today taking 12" plate 8' long, welding them together so I have stock big enough for the firebox - which is 24"x24"x24" ..1/4" walls with a 5/8" thick plate top - was laying in the pile!! I figure the thick plate on the top will make a great warming / duth oven surface - maybe even make flapjacks right on it??!!! Cool More pics to follow as time allows - any and all input appreciated!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10 12 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that is a tremendous amount of progress in a short amount of time!
Looking great.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10 12 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Tony broken butt and all you are doing pretty good on the build.....hope your feeling better. keep lots of notes on the build i may have to build one for a club here to do pigs Wink meat that is Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12 12 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Guy's! Thats 2 - 4 hr and one 8 hr day - no being able to sit sure helps!!...lol Confused The trailer was already built, its from my Lang. In the third pic, you can kinda see the firebox behind the tank - not sure how I am going to get it off the sawbucks its on - it weighs a TON!
I am making a 24x24 firebox - undersized according to the calculator - but the same size as on my Lang with the same size tank.... Confused Confused [ plus, it was what size steel I could come up with on site etc] Seems like Lang breaks a few of the rules, but they work - so I feel OK with it, I hope I'm right! Shocked I recall seeing an 8 x 8 box steel a few feet long to use as the stack - even have some thoughts on a grease relief angle inside the stack - its quite thick, I hope that doesnt make an issue ...This is ALL by the seat of my pants here - plus looking at all your posts for the past couple years!I hope I'm on to something Shocked Shocked Shocked Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12 12 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Tony's BBQ wrote:
In the third pic, you can kinda see the firebox behind the tank - not sure how I am going to get it off the sawbucks its on - it weighs a TON!


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12 12 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony, you project is taking shape and looking fantastic. Very Happy The reason a Lang burns a bit more fuel than other offsets is the lack of firebox volume in my opinion. The exchange rate of cold fresh air is a bit more than if the firebox was larger.
I do not know if you plan on the firebox attaching to the trailer or not but I would because I think the weight of the firebox will fold the tank end.
I look forward to seeing some more pics and updates. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13 12 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im coming in on this one a bit late, but glad I found it! Nice work Mr T! Its really starting to take some nice shape now.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13 12 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Kevin - yup on the folding!!!..lol - I am planning on welding it to both the rf plate and the trailer itself, and hope the trailer doesnt flip Confused Shocked Very Happy The top of the firebox is currently 6" longer than the sides, so I may be able to dream up something to allow a little more room - the calc says 24x24x27....but I will say, I only open 1 of the 4 air inlets on my Lang other than when I first fire her up - I am NO engineer, heck I dont even like trains Confused ...lol - But if she is as efficient as my Lang, I will be happy!!
Thanks Troy, the compliments from both of you mean quite a bit in my book - not to take away from the other guy's, but you two are SR legends in my book !!
Keep the input comin all - and thank you all for lookin!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13 12 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice build Tony, and I am glad you are doing better.
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dont know why this posted....
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