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KAKid
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08 12 11:34 am    Post subject: My turn to build a UDS Reply with quote

Pulled the trigger and picked up a couple barrels so I could join the UDS club, but only doing 1 build at a time. For now I'll be using the barrel lids since Weber lids are as rare as hen's teeth around here. Used the search function and been thru the UDS posts about four times and still have some questions I could use some advice on.

Will just using the 2" bung opening provide enough draw? I'll have four 3/4" intake nipples (3 capped, 1 ball valve).

How far above the top of the fire basket should the diffuser be located. I'm actually using some pizza screens more to keep excessive drippings off the fire but they should diffuse the heat a bit also. The basket is 17"Wx8"T on 3" legs.

For a dual cooking grate setup with the flat lid I read that the top basket should be 7" below the top, and the second basket 6" below that. Now if (when) I score a Weber lid, do you foresee a problem adding a third cook grate 1" below the top?

Thanks in advance, and yes, pics will be coming after I get the first barrel back from being sand blasted (silica sand).
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10 12 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KAKid, I'm just guessing but, I think the 2" bung should be alright, not sure because I have a weber lid.
I set 2 cooking racks, the top one is 3" from the top, the second one is 5" below.
I put in bolts to hold a diffuser 17" from the top, although I only used it twice.
Good luck on your drum.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10 12 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks GF, kinda figured the bung would be enough draw, but might be moot. Noticed that our Wally store had 9 Uni Flame 22.5 kettles stacked in a back corner for $40. I'm heading back tomorrow and make them open one up so I can check out the lids and grates. Probably go ahead and set it up for 3 cook grates just 'cause I can. I can always reconfigure if it doesn't work out.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12 12 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hijacking my own "question" thread and making it my build thread.

Had the basket made at a shop since I don't have the gear to do it the way I want. Sitting on top of drum #2.


Removable ash catcher suspended with "S" hooks.


Sandblast for $35 or spend XX hours in the cold with a wire wheel? Was an easy choice for me. Primered yesterday(55F), 12 hours before the cold and snow moved in.


It's a start. I'm going to move it down to the basement so work can continue.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14 12 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KAKid, your cooker is looking fantastic. Very Happy Your on your way to long happy cooks my Friend. I look forward to more updates and pics. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15 12 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks k.a.m.. Very kind words from the Master. Wink Trying to keep it "slow and steady" so I don't make it harder than it isn't.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17 12 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got everything moved from the garage to the basement just as the snow and single digit temps were moving in.

Intake nipples (3/4 in) mounted (3 capped, 1 ball valve). Used a shorter nipple on one, and mounted lower on the barrel to aid in removal of ash that spills from the ash tray and general cleaning. First bit of luck..the 3 longer intakes are positioned dead center between the bottom of the basket and the ash catcher.


Wrangled the 1/8 X 2 flat stock using a c-clamp, 2 vise grips and a BDH.


Woo Hoo, second bit of luck. Ground it down to a nice fit just "eyeballing" it, miniscule gap at the top. The Uni-Flame lid fits snugly. Gonna grind the bolt ends off tomorrow (The Mrs. was trying to nap Shocked .)


Tentatively dubbed it "Fugly1" and it's mate will be "2Fugly"
Actually got more done but didn't take pics. Maybe I'll get around to it tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17 12 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KAKid, your drum is coming along nicely. Very Happy
I've been bending the 1/8 " flat around a piece of 2x10 that is cut to match the circumference of the drum or whatever.
If you work it slowly around, bending a little at a time, the wrestling is eliminated.
Looking forward to updates.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18 12 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks GF. Having a lot of fun challenging myself. I just used the ole "floor, foot, pull method" and was able to make it managable. Very Happy My tools and (minimal) shop items are geared more toward that of a shade tree mechanic Crying or Very sad, so I try to be creative. Idea
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18 12 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KAKid, awesome work so far on your cooker it is coming along nicely. Very Happy Your band fit up is spot on very nice work. Very Happy I look forward to seeing some more pics and updates. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18 12 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KAKid wrote:
Thanks GF. Having a lot of fun challenging myself. I just used the ole "floor, foot, pull method" and was able to make it managable. Very Happy My tools and (minimal) shop items are geared more toward that of a shade tree mechanic Crying or Very sad, so I try to be creative. Idea

You and me both on tools and shop.
Anyone can do it with the right tooling. Wink
Creative and persistant always win out. Very Happy
Looking forward to updates.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18 12 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

k.a.m. wrote:
KAKid, awesome work so far on your cooker it is coming along nicely. Very Happy Your band fit up is spot on very nice work. Very Happy


k.a.m., again I thank you. My Dad use to say "I'd rather be lucky than good." I now know what he meant Cool .
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19 12 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KAKid,

Nice work on the uds! Cool
I'll be watching for updates bro! Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20 12 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you chuckied.

Cheapo Uni-flame grate 7" below lower cook grate to hold the pizza screen diffuser or water pan.


Final fit-up. Firebox and grates in place. Sealed the lid ring with stove sealer/gasket glue.


Top feels nice and snug, but only the "smoke test" will bear that out. Not real happy with the vent fit. I read about a "fix" on another post, so will do some searching.


One 1 1/4" bolt on the lid keeps it handy.


Will do a seasoning/test burn when the temps get out of the teens. In the meantime will start on #2. Found a new guy that will weld the 2nd fire basket and mount my wheel setup on both units. That won't happen til Feb, so it will probably be awhile for my next pic post.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21 12 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KAKid...

Super Nice work on what is a Super Nice UDS! Cool

We'll be looking forward to updates and Burn-in/Smoke test!


Great Looking pics, Brother! Wink

Best Regards,

Tony Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21 12 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice job.

You need to be very careful - If this kind of work persists you will end up with a "PDS" instead of "UDS" Wink

definition: PDS - "pretty drum smoker" - a phenomena that happens when a person takes pride in even the simplist projects. Characterized by smooth cuts, concentric holes, pretty welds, culminating with a themed paint job. While not mainstream, this type of activity will endear you to a small group of your peers.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22 12 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's looking awesome! I think today would be a good day to fire it up Razz I was going to cook some butts today but decided to toss them in the freezer. Just looking out the window makes me cold!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22 12 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tony: Thanks for the Super Kudos. Wink

smootz: Thanks. Thoughts of ending up with a PDS has crossed my mind. Maybe a tie dyed paint scheme would avoid that. Shocked

Fast Murray: Thanks Trevor. Noooo, not today! 29 and a light breeze on Tuesday is looking good, though. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28 12 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was working on UDS #2, bolting the 1 1/2 in flat stock on the top end for the lid to fit over. Work was going really well, but being a less robust barrel, I discovered it went "oval" on me. Shocked Mad




Messed with it a bit and got it more true, but not enough. Borrowing some bar clamps from the BIL tomorrow to try to ease" it back into shape.
For now it's:

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28 12 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KAKid, par the course brother. Rolling Eyes
Where can I find the headache powder?
I should probably put it in my rub. Shocked
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