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GreenSmoker BBQ Pro

Joined: 15 Jun 2010 Posts: 605 Location: Green Mountain State of Vermont
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Posted: Sep 29 2011 Post subject: |
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Arlo, are your intakes, the name slide and the round one, above or below the fire grate? This may not be the issue but, if the air isn't under the fire it will burn poorly. A good clean fire prefers a draft from underneath and will burn hotter and cleaner.
I couldn't tell from the pics where they are. It may be that simple an issue. Good luck. _________________ GreenSmoker / Steve C.
Little Johnny says "I like the way you're thinkin'."
Homemade Offset 30 x 30
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Liar #92 or is that my age or my IQ or my shoe size or the sum total for all of them? |
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ckone BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 23 Oct 2009 Posts: 2451 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Sep 29 2011 Post subject: |
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| Arlo wrote: | | I did not point thios out earlier but the doors on the side where you see my name "Arlo" are actually slide drafts. Now that being said they are not huge openings but do add a little. I think I will get a couple of extensions made and run with the door open to sse if that corrects the issue before I just start doing crap. Thanks to all I really appreciate it. |
That sounds like a good start. The slide drafts you mentioned look like the are too high up to be much good. ideally they should be below the fire so the air is drawn up and through the fire. _________________ 22.5 Weber Kettle
OK Joe
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Arlo Newbie
Joined: 24 Sep 2011 Posts: 33
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Posted: Sep 30 2011 Post subject: |
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| Good point the slide drafts in fact are above and the spin draft is at the same level or slightly lower. I did put a hole to use mu Digi Q Pit Regulator. It has a 25 cfm fan that should help with the flow. |
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Arlo Newbie
Joined: 24 Sep 2011 Posts: 33
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Posted: Sep 30 2011 Post subject: |
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| Man you guys are really wise when it comes to this stuff. |
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polishdon BBQ Pro

Joined: 05 Aug 2009 Posts: 580 Location: Hamburg, NY
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Arlo Newbie
Joined: 24 Sep 2011 Posts: 33
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Posted: Oct 01 2011 Post subject: |
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Yes the wood has been in a covered shed for at least 6 months
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Alien BBQ BBQ All Star

Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 5426 Location: Roswell, New Mexico
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Posted: Oct 01 2011 Post subject: |
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I think I am seeing the problem. What is the relationship of the intake opening (the one with you name is worthless so close it) and your fire grate? It looks to be too high. If this is the case we need to lower the intake. One question before we go further; do you compete with this pit or do you just want good BBQ? If you just want good BBQ then you can fix it for about $50 with an electric fireplace blower. _________________ https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaeloberry |
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Arlo Newbie
Joined: 24 Sep 2011 Posts: 33
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Posted: Oct 01 2011 Post subject: |
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Solved the smoke problem. You are all gonna laugh at the Rookie but who knew when you buillt a fire you should put 10 or 12 logs on the fire. I built a fire tonight with some small kindling and one log and that baby jumped up to 250-275 and was putting out the prettiest light blue smoke you ever saw. I cracked the door to get a better draft and took yall's advise and built a smaller hot fire. The next step I will do is add a couple more drafts below the fire grate and she should be ready.
Now the next issue. If the pit gets to hot then I need to........
Let me guess use less fuel (wood) Correct |
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k.a.m. BBQ Mega Star

Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 26020 Location: Southeast Texas.
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Posted: Oct 01 2011 Post subject: |
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Arlo, I am glad you getting on the right track. Once you get your intake problem lined out you will be able to control your temps with the intake. The recommended intake on a cooker is for balls to the wall if you have this much intake then you have room to fine tune your temps. I suggested a small hot fire and cracking the firebox door to see if one of your problems was intake. You will not be able to fine tune with the door so adding more intake preferably below your fire grate will allow you to control your small hot fire. I hope this helps.  _________________ Always remember slow and steady wins the race.
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jhnarial BBQ Fan
Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 118
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Posted: Oct 01 2011 Post subject: |
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[quote="Alien BBQ"]Numb lips is an indicator of cyanide (which all wood has). It is not too much smoke... It is improper smoke. Try using less wood and a hotter fire (check out the photos below) Smoker on the left= improper smoking, smoker on the right is alright.
This is what is meant by a small hot fire....
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great example. |
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Arlo Newbie
Joined: 24 Sep 2011 Posts: 33
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Posted: Oct 01 2011 Post subject: |
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| So tell me if this is true. When I get the fire right and the smoke right then pull back on the intake? |
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SoEzzy BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 13183 Location: SLC, UT
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Posted: Oct 01 2011 Post subject: |
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When you have the fire right and the smoke right, quit messing with it until it goes wrong... then mess with it till it's right again! _________________ Here's a change Robert.
I still work here! |
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Arlo Newbie
Joined: 24 Sep 2011 Posts: 33
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Posted: Oct 01 2011 Post subject: |
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What I meant was if the fire is right and the smoke is right what
if the pit gets too hot |
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SoEzzy BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 13183 Location: SLC, UT
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Posted: Oct 02 2011 Post subject: |
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If the fire is right and the smoke is right then the heat wont be wrong, if the heat is wrong then the fire is too much or not enough and therefore the fire is wrong.
That said if you try and get too high or too low a pit temperature, you may be working against the characteristics of the pit.
You need to find the sweet spot for the pit, and try and work round that, don't waste your time and efforts trying to get it away from the sweet spot. _________________ Here's a change Robert.
I still work here! |
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ckone BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 23 Oct 2009 Posts: 2451 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Oct 02 2011 Post subject: |
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The simple answer to your question;
to hot - give it less air/ fuel
to cold- give it more air/ fuel
The sweet spot that soezzy mentioned does vary. My trailer pit will coast at 250 with wood split just right and added in the proper amount in the appropriate time. It took trial and error to find the right rhythm. Just keep messing with it and you will get it. _________________ 22.5 Weber Kettle
OK Joe
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Arlo Newbie
Joined: 24 Sep 2011 Posts: 33
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Posted: Oct 02 2011 Post subject: |
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| Man I got her Smokin right now and it is a beautiful thing |
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k.a.m. BBQ Mega Star

Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 26020 Location: Southeast Texas.
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Posted: Oct 02 2011 Post subject: |
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| Arlo wrote: | | Man I got her Smokin right now and it is a beautiful thing |
Congrats Arlo. I look forward to hearing how your cook turns out.  _________________ Always remember slow and steady wins the race.
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GreenSmoker BBQ Pro

Joined: 15 Jun 2010 Posts: 605 Location: Green Mountain State of Vermont
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Posted: Oct 02 2011 Post subject: |
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And seeing pics thanks. _________________ GreenSmoker / Steve C.
Little Johnny says "I like the way you're thinkin'."
Homemade Offset 30 x 30
UDS
Rocket Stove
Liar #92 or is that my age or my IQ or my shoe size or the sum total for all of them? |
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BCFishMan
Joined: 04 Mar 2010 Posts: 5
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Posted: Oct 02 2011 Post subject: |
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That last picture looks like something out of a BBQ horror movie.
I'ma have nightmares now.
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Arlo Newbie
Joined: 24 Sep 2011 Posts: 33
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Posted: Oct 03 2011 Post subject: |
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The smoke is Right Now!!!!!
7 hours later and what a beautiful smoke ring.
P.S. My lips didn't go numb this time. It was and is delicious. Thanks You guys I thought I had wasted my money on that thing but you guys bailed me out!!
Arlo |
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