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Tim_Abrahamson BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 1544 Location: Parkville, MO
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| Smoke&flame wrote: | Oregon smoker posits a method for people with out a grasp on reality. I applaud him on that. His followers need guidance.
If you are in the real world camp I would suggest doing what chilehead70301 says. It's very close to what I do, and it's by far the best way to cook a brisket. |
Man..17 posts and already flaming. What gives??? _________________ BBQ is like sex...
Even when its bad its still pretty good!
...besides, when is the last time you turned down BBQ?
Oklahoma Joe Longhorn
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Former Pitmaster Gates and Sons BBQ (KC) |
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Virginiasmoke BBQ Pro

Joined: 01 Sep 2010 Posts: 870 Location: Central Virginia
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Posted: Sep 09 2011 Post subject: |
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Well... his handle is Smoke&flame after all.
I bet he was trying to be tongue and cheek sarcastic though, like Oregon smoker was. Not flaming. |
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k.a.m. BBQ Mega Star

Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 26020 Location: Southeast Texas.
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| Smoke&flame wrote: | | If you are in the real world camp I would suggest doing what chilehead70301 says. It's very close to what I do, and it's by far the best way to cook a brisket. |
In your opinion it may be the best but I doubt it. It is only one of several ways to cook a good brisket. Low and slow has been around for a long and successful time sorry to bust your bubble  _________________ Always remember slow and steady wins the race.
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raystevens Newbie

Joined: 04 Sep 2010 Posts: 30
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Posted: Sep 10 2011 Post subject: |
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Low and slow; as long as you don't over do it. In other words, don't dry it out. Different smokers, the amount of fat and temps will dictate this.
I will decide on how to cook a brisket depending on what it looks like when I buy it. And, where I am here in Northern VA, briskets are hard to come by except for flats.
wallace _________________ Life is good, butt BBQ is Better! |
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Harry Nutczak BBQ All Star

Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 8558 Location: The Northwoods
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Posted: Sep 10 2011 Post subject: |
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buy brisket, choice grade or higher.
remove from package
season with salt, pepper & garlic
place in smoker preheated to 225-240'ish
cook until done, let rest for 20-40 minutes, slice across grain and enjoy.
Done!!
I see many people purposely make things much more difficult than they should be. There is nothing wrong with just seasoning a quality chunk of meat and cooking it.
Btw, this will most likely take more than 8 hours to cook, and possibly up to 14 hours. _________________ Just remember that the toes you may step on during your climb to the top will also be attached to the a$$es you'll be forced to kiss on your way back down! |
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Pit Boss BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 04 Sep 2008 Posts: 2362 Location: Mt. Pleasant, South Carolina
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| Harry Nutczak wrote: |
I see many people purposely make things much more difficult than they should be. There is nothing wrong with just seasoning a quality chunk of meat and cooking it.
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You are absolutely correct, Harry. The things I see posted on cooking boards like this can be really out there. It's no wonder new cooks get so confused. I always say, "Train and learn the basics first. If you want to experiment, that's great...but learn how to cook the basics before venturing off into left field."
I always get lambasted for saying that cooking barbecue is easy. Generally those that take offense to that statement are those that have never gotten past the veil of complexity they put themselves behind. If you understand the basics w/o being blinded by all the extra hype, you will understand how simple cooking a piece of meat really is.
Do it simple, do it well. Barbecue...it is ONLY heat & meat. _________________ Somewhere in Kenya...a village is missing their idiot. |
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lennyk Newbie
Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 97
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Posted: Sep 10 2011 Post subject: |
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I find the foiled in a cooler resting of minimum 45min-90min makes the biggest and most dramatic difference after getting up to temp.
you can feel the whole thing turn into a mass of jello |
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SoEzzy BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 13183 Location: SLC, UT
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Posted: Sep 10 2011 Post subject: |
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I think often the biggest confusion is caused by folks reading 20 threads and getting 20 different ways, and trying to cook them all the first time.
When I started cooking, (many years ago), I was given a recipe card to follow, (or a cookbook), and I got to cook one recipe, I might cook the same recipe 3 or more times, then I was invited to change things up, and experiment with it.
Folks now a days appear to want to read 20 recipes instead of doing 20 cooks...I get that to buy and cook 20 briskets isn't cheap, and takes quite a long time to do when you only cook once or twice a month.
But from a practical point of view there are enough variables to make anyone confused, type of pit, quality of the meat, quality of the fuel, direct heat or indirect heat, indirect and radiant heat, radiant heat on it's own, (and I'm sure I missed some out), sometimes you just need to pick one method and try it out.
Until you start practicing, one can talk up a whirlwind and still have nothing to base your first cook on.
Many people have the only method you need to cook things, without mentioning all the variables that I listed above, or even a different style of cooker.
So to all that are thinking about a new piece of meat that they have never cooked before, just season it with the first rub that sounds good, cook it to the consensus, (or average), temperature people say to cook it to, rest it the average time, and see how it turns out.
You sure can ask questions before, during or after, and then you need to balance the answers, pick one you felt works the closest to your method, and then see what you can do the second time you practice that piece of meat.
Take a deep breath, ask your questions, weigh the answers, experiment with one method or combine a couple of methods into your own method, do the cook, weigh your results, question your methods and what you feel worked or didn't work, question the forums some more and repeat all of the above! _________________ Here's a change Robert.
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lennyk Newbie
Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 97
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Posted: Sep 11 2011 Post subject: |
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SoEzzy,
those are very good points,
if you talk to many people they will boast about how many
recipes and cookbooks they own yet hardly ever master a particular item and understand the process to turn something into something else. |
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