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BoilermakerFan BBQ Fan

Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Posts: 383 Location: Evansville, IN
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Posted: Dec 04 2006 Post subject: |
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| Bigjim4x wrote: | | I have been using the stoker for about 3 months now and I Love It!!!! Tom they now make a 25 cfm fan that would work great on your pits. Message me if you need info. I'm a distributor for Rocks and can give you any info you need. |
I'll keep these questions public for anyone else interested:
Which adapter do I need for a Char-Griller with SFB? Would the WSM round adapter work with any minor mods? Or would I have to use a plate adapter and more heavily mod the C-G firebox since the intake damper is on the removable ash tray?
The TC feed through adapters under the WSM assecories also have my interest. What size hole do they feed through, or rather, what size hole would I have to drill in order to install them on my Char-Griller in various locations? _________________ My highly tweaked Char-Griller Smokin' Pro died many years ago... my Weber Kettle gave us 20 years of great food... Now i'm rocking an Oklahoma Joe's Bronco! |
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Bedlam BBQ BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 1610 Location: Broken Arrow, OK
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Posted: Dec 05 2006 Post subject: |
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Here's an article to more interesting information about the Stoker. http://www.nakedwhiz.com/productreviews/stoker/stoker1.htm
I have read other comments about the larger fans causing ash to blow into the main cooking chamber and thus coating the food with the ash -- probably not what you are wanting to do. |
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DawgPhan BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 3444
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Posted: Dec 05 2006 Post subject: |
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Yeah I think that the stoker is the way to go...I know that it is on my short list of things to pick up...I like being able to run as many things as you want on a single unit instead of having to pick up a new unit for each smoker..
I dont know how often I would be using the online stuff, but I would certainly be digging on the temp control stuff for when the temps get a little lower... |
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Big Tom BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 1234 Location: Owensboro, KY
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Posted: Dec 05 2006 Post subject: |
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Big Jim, a while back I got the BBQ Guru folks to quote me there reccomendations on controlling my big smoker.
They reccomended two 25cfm fans and either of their controllers for $420 or $820(wireless).
Any thoughts? _________________ Big Tom
Pigs-R-Us Cooking Team
Owensboro, KY / Corinth, MS |
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BoilermakerFan BBQ Fan

Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Posts: 383 Location: Evansville, IN
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Posted: Dec 05 2006 Post subject: |
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Big Tom
I'm not going to knock the BBQ Guru's quality, but a $400 increase in price to make it wireless seems crazy. It will cost you $85-$100(retail) to buy the Linksys gateway to convert the Stoker to WiFi. I'm assuming BBQ Guru's wireless is coming with a second display and control unit that commuicates directly with the base, vs. the Stoker's internal web server. If you wanted "wireless" monitoring of the Stoker with the Linksys gateway you would have to use a web-browser on a laptop, PDA, or cell phone. An older version of a Palm, HP, or Dell with built-in WiFi can be picked up cheap, but make sure the replacement batteries are still available for it or you could be dead before the smoking session is done. You can configure the viewing device to use WiFi as well, but it still has to open the programming and monitoring screen in a web-browser.
As far as the 5cfm, 25cfm, or (2) 25cfm units, you would need to make the mounting plate diffuse the flow over a greater area to reduce the pressure of the flow and minimize the rsk of ashing the meat. 50cfm seems like a very oversized blower to me, but how big is your firebox? How much wood does it usually hold? I think you would definitely have to follow the advise in the above linked reviewed and hard code the blower and TC to teh Stoker so you could turn it off when you opened the cooking chamber or it would over compensate and your firebox temp will stay elevated for a long time.
Of course, all of the above is just my $0.02... _________________ My highly tweaked Char-Griller Smokin' Pro died many years ago... my Weber Kettle gave us 20 years of great food... Now i'm rocking an Oklahoma Joe's Bronco! |
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ceedubya BBQ Pro

Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 669 Location: Helena, MT
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Posted: Dec 07 2006 Post subject: |
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And to think, this whole thing started as the po' mans food
And with that said, I GOT TO GET ME ONE OF THESE!. They should configure the web browser to set alarm points to sound an audible alarm, or even send a text to a cell number. That maybe overkill, but still pretty cool  |
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DawgPhan BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 3444
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Posted: Dec 07 2006 Post subject: |
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oooh...the call your cell phone thing would be pretty cool...
and yes I still have to get me one...they just sound too sweet... |
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mrblue Newbie

Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 79 Location: Weatherford,tx
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Posted: Dec 12 2006 Post subject: |
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Question, I havnt started my smoker yet but its right around the corner..
would you make any obvious adjustments if going to use one of the heat controlled systems... . Not sure how the fans actually connect to the system and such.. .. i sure like the systems from what i have read and would like to use one... |
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abingdonrowes Newbie
Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 81
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Posted: Dec 12 2006 Post subject: |
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[quote="BoilermakerFan"]
In this case though, I really don't need the stoker's fan, I just want a device to monitor my temps and tell me when my pit needs more wood during a long smoke.
If you don't need the fan, why don't you just buy the Maverick ET7-3. It monitors the smoking chamber's temperature and the meat's temperature. It is wireless. It has pretty limited range on the wireless part and you can only monitor the temperature of one food item. Howeve, it is much cheaper |
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abingdonrowes Newbie
Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 81
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Posted: Dec 12 2006 Post subject: |
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[quote="abingdonrowes"] | BoilermakerFan wrote: |
In this case though, I really don't need the stoker's fan, I just want a device to monitor my temps and tell me when my pit needs more wood during a long smoke.
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If you don't need the fan, why don't you just buy the Maverick ET7-3. It monitors the smoking chamber's temperature and the meat's temperature. It is wireless. It has pretty limited range on the wireless part and you can only monitor the temperature of one food item. However, it is much cheaper. |
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BoilermakerFan BBQ Fan

Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Posts: 383 Location: Evansville, IN
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Posted: Dec 12 2006 Post subject: |
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| abingdonrowes wrote: |
If you don't need the fan, why don't you just buy the Maverick ET7-3. It monitors the smoking chamber's temperature and the meat's temperature. It is wireless. It has pretty limited range on the wireless part and you can only monitor the temperature of one food item. However, it is much cheaper. |
For exactly the same reasons you noted. I can buy a Stoker now and when I upgrade to a larger smoker/grill/rotisserie(s) I can just add more probes and/or second fan and run the Char-Griller and new smoker off one grill.
I figure my next beast will have room for at least two 12" x 40" rotisserie baskets that can hold 6-8 chickens each, so I would need the 20-port expander for individual bird temps, or just use the 3-port expander and temp every other bird. _________________ My highly tweaked Char-Griller Smokin' Pro died many years ago... my Weber Kettle gave us 20 years of great food... Now i'm rocking an Oklahoma Joe's Bronco! |
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Bedlam BBQ BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 1610 Location: Broken Arrow, OK
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Posted: Dec 13 2006 Post subject: |
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| BoilermakerFan wrote: | | so I would need the 20-port expander for individual bird temps, or just use the 3-port expander and temp every other bird. |
Man, talk about a cluster of wires with trying to get temps on 20 birds. How would you use a wired thermometer in meat that is rotating around on a rotisserie? Seems like the wires would eventually get all wrapped around. And I've never seen a wireless probe before. |
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BoilermakerFan BBQ Fan

Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Posts: 383 Location: Evansville, IN
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Posted: Dec 13 2006 Post subject: |
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| SStory wrote: | | BoilermakerFan wrote: | | so I would need the 20-port expander for individual bird temps, or just use the 3-port expander and temp every other bird. |
Man, talk about a cluster of wires with trying to get temps on 20 birds. How would you use a wired thermometer in meat that is rotating around on a rotisserie? Seems like the wires would eventually get all wrapped around. And I've never seen a wireless probe before. |
Ha ha ha, true. I hadn't had my coffee yet. Actually though, it can be done, it's just very expensive since it would need to be terminated at the rotation point and converted to a sweeping contact on a disc. Definitely not worth the effort for a smoker, even for a geek like me, but I have seen it done on rotating reactors for plastics processing.
However, I could easily accomidate multiple beer can chickens on a grate.
Plus I want to be able to log the data on my PC, so the Stoaker is still the best bang for the buck. _________________ My highly tweaked Char-Griller Smokin' Pro died many years ago... my Weber Kettle gave us 20 years of great food... Now i'm rocking an Oklahoma Joe's Bronco! |
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Bedlam BBQ BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 1610 Location: Broken Arrow, OK
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Posted: Dec 13 2006 Post subject: |
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| I definately think the Stoker is the way to go. I'm going to start building my Stumper clone and will get getting a Stoker to add to it at some point. |
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BoilermakerFan BBQ Fan

Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Posts: 383 Location: Evansville, IN
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| SStory wrote: | | I definately think the Stoker is the way to go. I'm going to start building my Stumper clone and will get getting a Stoker to add to it at some point. |
I just saw your location... I was in Tulsa last week and met Mike, Jeff, Keri (& Robert), and Patrick (& Pattie). Are you feeling better or was it your wife that was sick? _________________ My highly tweaked Char-Griller Smokin' Pro died many years ago... my Weber Kettle gave us 20 years of great food... Now i'm rocking an Oklahoma Joe's Bronco! |
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copperhead
Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 21 Location: Murrieta, CA
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Posted: Dec 13 2006 Post subject: |
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Add up 10 of those Mavericks and then you have the same thing... except the cost of batteries, space, and lets not forget the cool factor here. Cool factor is at least 60% of the scoring process.
Lloyd _________________ Boil what? I'm sorry, are you a communist? |
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BoilermakerFan BBQ Fan

Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Posts: 383 Location: Evansville, IN
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Posted: Dec 14 2006 Post subject: |
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| copperhead wrote: | Add up 10 of those Mavericks and then you have the same thing... except the cost of batteries, space, and lets not forget the cool factor here. Cool factor is at least 60% of the scoring process.
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And the Mavericks do not keep the temp near setpoint, they just beep when it's too high or too low... No blower to stoak the fire. _________________ My highly tweaked Char-Griller Smokin' Pro died many years ago... my Weber Kettle gave us 20 years of great food... Now i'm rocking an Oklahoma Joe's Bronco! |
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Bedlam BBQ BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 1610 Location: Broken Arrow, OK
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Posted: Dec 14 2006 Post subject: |
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| BoilermakerFan wrote: | | I just saw your location... I was in Tulsa last week and met Mike, Jeff, Keri (& Robert), and Patrick (& Pattie). Are you feeling better or was it your wife that was sick? |
Brian, yes I was the sick one. I really hated to miss the get-together but I had a stomach virus and the thought of the smells in Kilkenney's alone was about to make me loose my lunch again. Too bad Christy (Mike's wife) was out of town on business. Kim and I met them at the Jenks' competition, along with Patrick/Pattie and Keri/Robert. We also helped Keri and Robert do a cook at a local retirement center -- that was a lot of fun.
You'll have to let us know the next time you are down this way and we will attempt it again. Or if I have my Stumper clone done by the next time you here, we'll have to have you out for a cold one and some hot BBQ. |
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Rubit BBQ Pro
Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 505 Location: South Georgia
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Posted: Dec 14 2006 Post subject: |
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Went to a new resturant and just as we opened the door a guy heaved his freshly eaten supper all over the entrance. SStory, it was probadly a good idea to stay home. _________________ Vertical Brick pit wood burner
Converted Lazy Q Charcoal
Tank smoker Charcoal
Tank smoker wood burner
Tank Charcoal grill |
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Bedlam BBQ BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 1610 Location: Broken Arrow, OK
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| Rubit wrote: | | Went to a new resturant and just as we opened the door a guy heaved his freshly eaten supper all over the entrance. SStory, it was probadly a good idea to stay home. |
Well, I guess that's one way for you to see the type of food served when you are going to a new restaurant. I prefer to see what's on other peoples plate and not what just got spewed from their belly. Stomach virus really sucks -- just the thought of food is enough to make you lose it. |
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