And all I received was a "Thank you" card..

Geronimo · Posted: Jul 11 2011 Post subject:

Good point Harry and my company does disburse any and all gratuity to any and all employees that work any given event.

As a paid (salary) employee of this catering company, (corporation) If I work an event, I share in any gratuity received (mandatory or voluntary) as is every employee of this catering company.

Any and all gratuity for this catering company is reported as income to the company as required by law and thus the proper taxes are paid on same.

Do you (or anyone) report and pay taxes on "cash" gratuities you receive??? Shocked

BTW, that law you quoted does not refer to or apply to catering companies for this state. Shocked

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Inner10 · Posted: Jul 11 2011 Post subject:

Louie · Posted: Jul 11 2011 Post subject:

@inner10
Most caterer's bid or quote for the gig's, adding a 15-20% tip to the plate at the starting gate or re-itemizing as you suggest wouldn't fly, gig's would be few and far between. Laughing

Robbing Peter to pay Paul is gonna bite you in the butt sooner or later, whether you cater, vend, or flog whatever..imho

@Geronimo, wow marv that was a great payday.. Wink

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Geronimo · Posted: Jul 11 2011 Post subject:

Poppa's PTL Club · Posted: Jul 12 2011 Post subject:

I have been doing a lot of investigation into this lately for a number of purposes and the IRS has made some changes as of April this year (my profession is as an auditor, so this isn't some jerk-off spouting bile here).

A mandatory gratuity is required to be distributed to employees as income with all concomitant income related taxes due. Failure to pay them does not alleviate the owner or the employee's (contractor's) responsibility for paying these employment related taxes.

Read more here:
http://www.tipcompliance.com/polLearningCenter.cfm?doc_id=2

This is new and there is a lot of furious lobbying going on to change this, but it is law. I would highly recommend a talk with your tax advisor (nothing I say here is offered or should be construed as legal or professional advice)
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Geronimo · Posted: Jul 12 2011 Post subject:

A couple of years ago I catered a party for a retiring IRS auditor and when she received the invoice showing the tax amount she changed it without calling me to talk about it because where she lived (where the party was) was .01% different than what I quoted on the invoice. It amounted to like $.18 cents. Shocked

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Slo Smoked Mo Better · Newbie Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Posts: 58

Marv,
Bottom line is you took the job under your conditions...if you didn't like them, pass on it and by all means don't book it again for next year. Why do some professions naturally think they deserve a tip? I do my job day in and day out as well as 80% of the other professions without ever receiving a tip?

Oh, and Marv I do cater part time too. And I don't EXPECT a tip and price the jobs to be competitive and also make me money so I don't have to whine if someone doesn't tip me....

Geronimo · Posted: Aug 02 2011 Post subject:

Poppa's PTL Club · Posted: Aug 02 2011 Post subject:

That's really unfair, we have an honest share here from a guy defending his business practice and explaining why he builds a mandatory gratuity into his business practice and gets accused of "whining".

Want to know why people aren't honest and share more of how they run their business and present other ways of doing things you haven't considered? Read above and you'll see why.
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Slo Smoked Mo Better · Newbie Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Posts: 58

BBQMAN · Posted: Aug 04 2011 Post subject:

I don't always get one, but I do expect a tip for a job well done in this industry.

A thank you card is nice, but doesn't provide a tip.

Heck, my welder buddy (web guy, lawn man, mechanic, the list could go on) doesn't expect one either, but when warranted gets a little something extra even if it's a slab of ribs (or in the case of my mechanic salmon) as a thank you.

Honestly, if you think a card or slap on the back (or plate of store bought cookies) is a tip then you are either joking or severely misinformed.
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Poppa's PTL Club · Posted: Aug 05 2011 Post subject:

Geronimo · Posted: Aug 05 2011 Post subject:

The point I was trying to make is pretty close to what Poppa's PTL Club said in the above post. Regardless weather or not you do a good job, MOST people do NOT add on a gratuity (unless you live in The Northwoods.. and then you get one EVERY time Shocked

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For this particular job I went WAY above and beyond by adding a LOT of extra help, having to rent a large truck to haul it all and a few other "essentials" that I felt were required to pull this one off with the ease I felt it required.

And no, I could NOT add all those charges onto the bill as we had agreed to the $10 PP price (before tax) INCLUSIVE.

This past weekend I catered a wedding for 275 and did charge my normal "mandatory gratuity" and still received a very nice "Thank you" note via email from the brides parents.

But hey, if a a caterer doesn't want to charge a gratuity, I am ok with that. I won't call you names because you do things differently than I do. Wink

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Harry Nutczak · Posted: Aug 09 2011 Post subject:

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