4th July Vend.

bmarley5780 · Newbie Joined: 20 Aug 2009 Posts: 73

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BBQMAN · Posted: Jul 06 2011 Post subject:

I'm a bit confused on part of your excitement, but congrats on the sales! Cool

The raunt was (or at least as you described it) well within their rights not to want their own parking lot used other than for their own purposes.

Or am I missing something here?

Raunts here are pretty mch automatically lisensed for outdoor events- their lisense is the same (or more stringent) than any vending requirements will ever be.

On the sink issue- I trust they had one just inside their establishment?

Honestly, I don't see the above as being major issues.

And, as stated, I'd be pi$$ed as can be be if the above happened to my place.

What am I missing here?
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Jarhead · Posted: Jul 06 2011 Post subject:

Congrats on a good vend.
I'm confused too.
Where were you set up at?
Does the restaurant own the vacant lot?
Is that a $25 vending fee?
I'm lost.

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bmarley5780 · Newbie Joined: 20 Aug 2009 Posts: 73

The current restaurant moved in 3 year ago.

The town has 3 events/festivals that the downtown streets are closed off, no cars, just people walking around. For the 4th there are only a few food vendors, this year was 6. No merchant vendors.

Every year for 8 years the food vendors are setup in a parking court. Food vendors used the whole parking court. All of it was considered useable space for us the food vendors. 3 other businesses use the same parking court during non-event days.

Last October is the Mullet(fish) Festival. Setup is Friday night starting at 10pm. Last cars for said restaurant to leave was 11:45. We setup, got inspected, and started cooking...How things are about to change...

Come morning time we have the rest. owner and manager, festival president, cops, land owners out there stating who's fault it was that -we- setup on their parking spaces, and how they are using that space for themselves. They didn't do anything at all with it after we moved besides put up a few banners on the 2nd story balcony railing...

...Granted this sort of thing is really between the restaurant owners and land owners, but we were in the crosshairs, and the raunt owners did not express their thoughts with more then 4 letter words TO us...

The -ONLY- possible recourse by the restaurant owner was for us to move, or he was goin to charge us with trespassing

....We moved.... This was was said and done about 11am. We turned away quite a bit of business.

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So it would be OK to put raw food on grill then have to run (about 30yds.) upstairs into their raunt to wash hands? Prepping that far away from a sink? Seems kinda long ways to go...

I have never seen any restaurant setup a outside cook area to cook outside. So I dont know either way.
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daddywoofdawg · Posted: Jul 06 2011 Post subject:

If I follow right,you and other food vendors set-up in a raunt parking lot and you don't understand why they don't want you there,REALLY?and you saying they shouldn't charge you money or trespassing?REALLY?The promotors should have a "food court"set-up for the food vendors.
Oh and good deal on the net profit.I could use a few one day'ers like that this year.
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bmarley5780 · Newbie Joined: 20 Aug 2009 Posts: 73

During these events and festivals the all downtown streets are closed to all cars and car traffic. Just like any other festival you go to. The restaurants parking is in this shutdown area along with everyone else that has a business in the downtown area. This area also includes 3 other restaurants.

All vendors have to pay a booth fee to get into these event/festivals. one day = $125

Are you guys saying that vendors should have to start paying ANOTHER fee to the business that uses that parking space during non event/festival day?

During other festivals there are gift vendors set up in front of gift SHOPS. Should they now pay an extra fee to that business on top of the one they already pay to the Festival Committee"booth fee"?

Louie · Posted: Jul 07 2011 Post subject:

Texman · Posted: Jul 07 2011 Post subject:

BBQMAN · Posted: Jul 07 2011 Post subject:

The promoter (go figure! Rolling Eyes

) made a mistake here.

Sorry my man, but you have no right to be mad at the raunt owner.

Be pi$$ed as hell at the promoter- but other than that I'm sorry but "how you used to do it" isn't the new raunt owners fault nor responsibility in any way.

The fact that you seem to think they owe you the privilege of using their property for your vending is WAY off base.

Our annual Pride fest is in a roped off street vending area.

A buddy with a coffee shop INVITED us to set up in his parking lot.

We tried it last year, and (pun intended) took it in the shorts so I declined this summer cause taking it in the shorts ain't how I roll! Smile

Raunts everywhere are hurting, and would I imagine want to take full opportunity to boost sales with a vending opportunity on their home turf.

Unless I'm still missing something (and I'm not thanks to you spelling it out) this should be a learning opportunity for both you and your promoter.

I've rarely, and I do mean RARELY met a promoter with any sense or knowledge about looking out for their vendors.

They are only looking out for themselves and the bottom line.

They don't care if you make money or not, they make a mistake or not, they run you and or anyone else under the bus in the process.

They just want to get paid for being slime balls.
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bmarley5780 · Newbie Joined: 20 Aug 2009 Posts: 73

Nope, not mad here.... :O) Other then getting cussed out like a little kid... I could care less. Inconvenient, yes. but not mad.

I be happy setting up anywhere no owes me anything. Sorry if it seems that way.

No, the raunts outside cooking is not a part of their daily operation.

The businesses are open when the gift vendors are there. Why would one close when there's 5 k people walkin around? My moms shop is open and does very well during these events. Ha, she actually had vendors buy, and then resell her stuff LOL she got a kick outta that!
http://theglorybee.com/

Since this whole thing seems to be run wrong. How is a downtown area with multiple business ranging from selling flip-flops to beach bags to food supposed to hold a festival that has vendors?
Pretty funny all these events running @$$ backwards and some are going on 57 years. LOL

Here's a link that has a few pics of the Mullet Festival. That was a great 2 day event! Both days 80 degrees and sunny!

http://portal.jdnews.com/photogallery/?CatID=8&AlbumID=1098

daddywoofdawg · Posted: Jul 07 2011 Post subject:

The promoters should park the food vendors on the street in front of the"gift shop"(diffrent things no comp).
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BBQMAN · Posted: Jul 07 2011 Post subject:

Texman · Posted: Jul 07 2011 Post subject:

We're still curious as to who was the Event Organizer.

Was it a Promoter or a non-profit like a Chamber of Commerce?

bmarley5780 · Newbie Joined: 20 Aug 2009 Posts: 73

Na- I was right off the bat, in the morning

The town holds the festival.
The booth fee is payed to the "Swansboro Festival Committee".

There are sponsors but they are local businesses

Jeff T · Posted: Jul 08 2011 Post subject:

I can see it.
Kinda the same thing happened to me but in reverse. See my lost my a$$ thread. Our deal wasn't a festival but a car show and the local merchants, those being downtown shops and restaurants didn't want anything to do with supporting the car show or sponsoring the show but sure as he$$ they sold walking foods, sandwiches etc.. during the car show, which was out of the norm for most all of those restaurants. And yes i have eaten at these places.
Should i have went and gave them a "talking too" much in the same way that they did to bmarley5780 ?

By they way i do think they, meaning the promoters/organizers/chamber of commerce etc... should have worked this all out before hand or at least had the venders set up right on the streets, a central location along the closed off streets. Or at least picked a parking lot that wasn't in conjunction with or adjoined to a restaurant. This could/would have avoided the whole mess.

pitmaster t · Posted: Jul 11 2011 Post subject:

Huh, like many I guess I'm missing something here. As a raunt owner that pays all the fees, taxes, permits, utilty bills and everything else the local goverment can come up with I can see why the owner was pi$$ed. Shocked

If he's like me, in addition to all the above he probably employs a few people who depend on him for a living. So I would guess that by the city shutting down streets his buisness was already suffering. Then on top of that there are people in his parking lot (that I assume he pays for) cutting off his walk-in customers!!!

He!!, I'm getting pi$$ed just thinking about it!!! Laughing

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BBQMAN · Posted: Jul 11 2011 Post subject:

pitmaster t · Posted: Jul 11 2011 Post subject:

Let me know when you're coming and I'll try a book you some catering. You can park your trailer in the parking lot at night. Laughing

After we close!!! Laughing

In the dark!!! Laughing

No water!!! Laughing

No power!!! Laughing

At the very back of the lot!!! Laughing

So come on!!! Laughing

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BBQMAN · Posted: Jul 11 2011 Post subject:

pitmaster t · Posted: Jul 12 2011 Post subject:

When you coming??? I'll take that week off. Don't bring your trailer, you can use the building while I'm gone!!! Shocked

What do you owe me??? Confused

How about the keys to that mountain retreat for a week or so!!!! Wink

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