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Smoking P BBQ Fan

Joined: 27 Oct 2009 Posts: 137 Location: New Port Richey, FL
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Posted: Jun 03 2011 Post subject: Brining Ribs ( baby backs) |
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Has anyone had success Brining baby backs and if so what type of brine do you use?
I have only ever rubbed my ribs and let them sit overnight, have only brined chicken and turkeys.
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WalrusWalrus
Joined: 07 Jun 2010 Posts: 21 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Jun 03 2011 Post subject: |
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1/4 cup salt
1/4 cup brown sugar
4 cups water
Don't brine for long, couple hours max depending on the size of the ribs. |
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Lumpy BBQ Fan
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 160 Location: Little Rock, AR
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Posted: Jun 03 2011 Post subject: |
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An article in Cook's Illustrated several years ago stated to use your favorite salt and sugar brine and cutting the salt to 1/4 of normal and sugar to 1/2. They recommended a short brine of 1 to 2 hours in the fridge.
Dry and rub the ribs and smoke as usual. I have done it and the ribs are noticeably more moist and tender. _________________ OK Joe Offset
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slow&low BBQ Fan
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 335 Location: Charlotte NC
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Posted: Jun 03 2011 Post subject: |
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| I would say don't do it... last weekend I did enhanced ribs and didn't particularly care for them a little too salty |
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Buckru BBQ Fan
Joined: 18 May 2011 Posts: 107
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Posted: Jun 03 2011 Post subject: |
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| slow&low wrote: | | I would say don't do it... last weekend I did enhanced ribs and didn't particularly care for them a little too salty |
That can happen with "enhanced" meat. You have no control over the amount of salt. Plain ol ribs and brine em. If you are going to dry rub em, cut back on the salt in the rub as the meat has absorbed some salt from the brine.
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BluDawg BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 30 Jul 2009 Posts: 2071 Location: Jonesboro,Tx.
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Posted: Jun 03 2011 Post subject: |
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I wouldn't recommend brining any pork as it is a fine line between a little seasoning and VERY HAMMY. Slather in worcestershire and apply your favorite rub and cook. Foil if you must and enjoy. _________________ Never met a cow that I didn't like with a little salt and pepper.
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Dr Obvious BBQ Pro

Joined: 04 Jun 2010 Posts: 516 Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Posted: Jun 03 2011 Post subject: |
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| BluDawg wrote: | | I wouldn't recommend brining any pork... |
:shock:
Wow. I brine every pork chop and roast I cook, and have never gotten too hammy. Different strokes, do what works for you, not arguing, etc, etc, etc. Just very different than my M.O. _________________ Real eyes realize real lies |
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feldon30 BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 01 Dec 2009 Posts: 1623 Location: Charlotte or Thereabouts
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Posted: Jun 03 2011 Post subject: |
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The problem with enhanced ribs is they've been sitting in saltwater for *days* which turns them mushy, plus phosphates which are not good eats.
I brine my pork chops and pork loin roasts for about 45 minutes to an hour before cooking. An un-brined pork chop is very easy to overcook. Briefly brining pork is like an insurance policy.
I don't brine ribs though as they get plenty of salt from sitting in BBQ rub for a few hours before going on the smoker, and when I foil the ribs, they get plenty of moisture. _________________ 22" Weber Smokey Mountain + Weber Spirit |
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Big_AL BBQ Fan
Joined: 26 Apr 2010 Posts: 350 Location: St Louis MO
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Posted: Jun 03 2011 Post subject: |
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When I started brining pork chops it took them to the next level...now I always brine.
For ribs, in lieu of a brine I have marinated which added some flavor but doesn't seem to be worth the time especially if you foil.
For shoulder, I have brined a la Alton Brown, bit I didn't think it added anything. I inject the shoulder. _________________ Char-Griller Smokin Pro
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Big Ron BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 2601 Location: Houston
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Posted: Jun 04 2011 Post subject: |
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I think pork is natural "salty" and a sugar/water brine might not hurt too much. I have no experience brining pork, but have heard of some doing pork loins with good results. _________________ Big Ron
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necron 99 BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 2594 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Posted: Jun 09 2011 Post subject: |
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I always brine boneless pork loin before smoke-roasting with excellent non-hammy results. Here's the first two I cooked, I've stopped posting cook threads with pics for a while - too many time demands to cook plus take pics, size properly, and post for me.
http://www.thesmokering.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23464
http://www.thesmokering.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24170
One key consideration I learned from TVWB is kosher salt has about half the bulk density of table salt, so if you're using table salt, cut the volume in half if the recipe calls for kosher salt.
I brined 8 racks of pork loin back ribs last month using this brine recipe from TVWB instead of foiling, and I had great results. Brining for a couple of hours is probably OK too but I had zero negative effects and nothing but compliments both from the wife and two housefuls of our nearest cajun neighbors.
I do not purchase "enhanced" pre-adulterated meats. to quote Harry N., if the meat I'm cooking is going to be adulterated, I'm the one who's going to adulterate it. _________________ Let's hope SoEzzy can ditch his heavy hand on photos in 2016!
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Inner10 BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 30 Apr 2010 Posts: 1289 Location: Ottawa, ON
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Posted: Jun 09 2011 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | One key consideration I learned from TVWB is kosher salt has about half the bulk density of table salt, so if you're using table salt, cut the volume in half if the recipe calls for kosher salt. |
I don't think its as low as half but it is a lot lower, much like pickling salt is even more dense...good reason to do things by weight and not by volume.
| Quote: | | I think pork is natural "salty" and a sugar/water brine might not hurt too much. I have no experience brining pork, but have heard of some doing pork loins with good results. |
Ron I've never tried but I'd be inclined to think that the effects of brining would be lost without the salt. If you put salty water beside water with a lower salt content and separate them by a membrane the salinity will balance out because each side wants to become isotonic. This is how the meat pulls in additional flavored water during the brining process.
At one point scientists researching liquid breathing found a liquid that they could dissolve enough oxygen into so that people could breath liquid instead of air, unfortunately at the time they couldn't find a liquid similar to water that they could match the salinity of people. When tested on rats the rat could survive a short while until its lungs ruptured when the salinity tried to balance out.
Another good example is salt on a slug or leech, its skin is semi permable...like a piece of pork. Shake salt on it and the when the salt flows in and water flows out to balance out it kills the little critter. |
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ckone BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 23 Oct 2009 Posts: 2451 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Jun 09 2011 Post subject: |
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the only time i have brined ribs, i ended up with 6th place out of 50.
Go for it. _________________ 22.5 Weber Kettle
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necron 99 BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 2594 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Posted: Jun 09 2011 Post subject: |
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[quote="Inner10"] | Quote: | | One key consideration I learned from TVWB is kosher salt has about half the bulk density of table salt, so if you're using table salt, cut the volume in half if the recipe calls for kosher salt. |
| Quote: | | I don't think its as low as half but it is a lot lower, much like pickling salt is even more dense...good reason to do things by weight and not by volume. |
No need to have a particlar belief set, here's the info link to TVWB. Compare Diamond brand kosher salt to table salt.
http://virtualweberbullet.com/brining.html#kosher
Did I mention my use of this ratio has produced excellent non-hammy results that aren't too salty when using table salt in brine and other recipes that call for kosher salt? _________________ Let's hope SoEzzy can ditch his heavy hand on photos in 2016!
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Big Ron BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 2601 Location: Houston
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Inner10 BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 30 Apr 2010 Posts: 1289 Location: Ottawa, ON
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Posted: Jun 10 2011 Post subject: |
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Excellent link necron thanks, I guess not all kosher salts are created equal either.
Moral of story is throw away the measuring cups and use a scale.
I don't even own table salt, typically it is iodized and kosher salt is not. |
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feldon30 BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 01 Dec 2009 Posts: 1623 Location: Charlotte or Thereabouts
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Posted: Jun 10 2011 Post subject: |
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Morton kosher salt is 2:1 to table salt.
Diamond crystals kosher salt is 1.5:1 to table salt.
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Dr Obvious BBQ Pro

Joined: 04 Jun 2010 Posts: 516 Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Posted: Jun 10 2011 Post subject: |
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For that matter, why do we assume that table salt has a uniform packing density? I'd bet different brands have different densities too. _________________ Real eyes realize real lies |
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Daddeo Newbie
Joined: 09 Feb 2011 Posts: 64 Location: NE Oklahoma
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Posted: Jun 10 2011 Post subject: Fine Brine |
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| Best brine I ever used on ribs was 2 quarts CocaCola, 1/2 cup Kosher Salt and 1/2 cup Worchestire; brine for 30-45 minutes right before putting them in the smoke. Mopped on another dose, without salt, halfway through. |
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necron 99 BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 2594 Location: San Antonio, TX
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| feldon30 wrote: | Morton kosher salt is 2:1 to table salt.
Diamond crystals kosher salt is 1.5:1 to table salt.
As per Americas Test Kitchen. |
That's opposite TVWB info. This link even has a picture of the 3 different size salt boxes mentioned and a clickable button to show the weight of salt in each box. The Diamond kosher salt box contains the same weight of salt as the Morton's kosher salt box, but the Diamond kosher salt box is larger.
http://virtualweberbullet.com/salt.html
Brining is how I get 'regular table salt' from the cupboard used up. For the table, we have a grinder of sea salt with no anti-caking agents, rice, or anything else in the salt container and it functions well in SE Louisiana weather. _________________ Let's hope SoEzzy can ditch his heavy hand on photos in 2016!
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