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Bang on the Drum all day (UDS finished 6/27/11)
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MacEggs
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PostPosted: Sun May 15 11 11:08 pm    Post subject: Bang on the Drum all day (UDS finished 6/27/11) Reply with quote

Just picked up a drum. $20 tax in.


Thanks to mactoo for the reference on scoring a drum.

It is in excellent shape, unfortunately it has a liner - it had soybean oil in it.

I have not priced out getting it sandblasted, but money is tight right now, so I will likely do a burn on it.

Once that is done, building the UDS should not be a problem as the info on this forum is incredible with everyone sharing their trials and builds. Thank you to everyone for that.

It seems common that the lid warps when it goes thru the burn process.
Is there a way or method to help prevent this?

Thanks,
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PostPosted: Mon May 16 11 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about the lid part but make sure your sand blaster company actually uses sand and not plastic or walnut media. The guy I went to used walnut on mine and it didn't hardly put a scratch in that painted on coating.
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PostPosted: Mon May 16 11 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I've done it I haven't had the lid on the drum during the burn off. I don't think you'll get a hot fire with the lid on. Now if you mean when you go to snuff it out to end the burn off then I can say mine haven't warped.
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PostPosted: Mon May 16 11 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks RollinontheRvr and 12TH AV SMOKERS for the replies. Regarding the lid, I have seen pictures and videos of people putting the lid vertically on the drum during a burn - my lid also has a liner so I want to get that removed. I plan on using my weed burner as well. I just want to avoid warping the lid.
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PostPosted: Mon May 16 11 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MacEggs, if you use a weed burner on the lid, you WILL warp it.
Grab a grinder or belt sander. It ain't that big.
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PostPosted: Mon May 16 11 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Jarhead, I will heed that advice! Smile

Has anyone used the lids from these cheap kettle cookers from Sears?

http://www.sears.com:80/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07116310000P?srccode=cii_10043468&cpncode=00-608459-2&i_cntr=1305547849703&sid=IDx20070921x00003c

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07160073000P?sid=IDx20070921x00003c&srccode=cii_10043468&cpncode=25-50319986-2
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PostPosted: Wed May 18 11 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm having trouble finding cheap 22˝" cooking grates.
I have found the Weber ones that fold up at the sides for $30.
I don't want to pay that since I plan on having two levels.

I might end up ordering them online.
Anybody know of a site or store with this item at a good price?

I will also do a Google search, but never hurts to ask.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18 11 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm having trouble finding cheap 22˝" cooking grates


Wally World should have aftermaket brand for $12 each.

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PostPosted: Wed May 18 11 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teleking wrote:
MacEggs wrote:
I'm having trouble finding cheap 22˝" cooking grates


Wally World should have aftermaket brand for $12 each.

Cheers

Thanks, Teleking! Unfortunately the Walmarts in Canada do not carry the same items as in the US. Confused I will keep looking, or make a 2-3 hour trip to Niagara Falls and cross the border there. Not sure I want to do that though, with the high gas prices and all. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Wed May 18 11 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MacEggs wrote:
Unfortunately the Walmarts in Canada do not carry the same items as in the US.


Can you do a ship to store option off the web site like they do in the states? Typically free shipping. Do it best and Ace hardware store also do the same if you got one of them around.

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Edit: Don't know why this wouldn't work up north

http://www.walmart.com/ip/21.5-Round-Cooking-Grid/10846836
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PostPosted: Wed May 18 11 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teleking wrote:
MacEggs wrote:
Unfortunately the Walmarts in Canada do not carry the same items as in the US.


Can you do a ship to store option off the web site like they do in the states? Typically free shipping. Do it best and Ace hardware store also do the same if you got one of them around.

Cheers

Edit: Don't know why this wouldn't work up north

http://www.walmart.com/ip/21.5-Round-Cooking-Grid/10846836

Thanks for all your help. Here's the link that explains their international shipping policy.
http://www.walmart.com/cp/International-Customers/538456

Gotta go to work - will look into the Ace hardware site later.

Thanks again,
Mark
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PostPosted: Wed May 18 11 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But they are not shipping it to you directly under that policy. You order it, it goes on a truck, and gets delivered to the store of you choice for pick up.

No shipping at all. Oh well good luck.

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PostPosted: Wed May 18 11 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MacEggs wrote:
Teleking wrote:
MacEggs wrote:
I'm having trouble finding cheap 22˝" cooking grates


Wally World should have aftermaket brand for $12 each.

Cheers

Thanks, Teleking! Unfortunately the Walmarts in Canada do not carry the same items as in the US. Confused I will keep looking, or make a 2-3 hour trip to Niagara Falls and cross the border there. Not sure I want to do that though, with the high gas prices and all. Crying or Very sad


ask your store if they can get it.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/21.5-Round-Cooking-Grid/10846836
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PostPosted: Wed May 18 11 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07113372000P?sid=IDx20070921x00003a&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=07113372000P

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=weber+22+grate&_sacat=0&_odkw=weber+grate&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

http://cgi.ebay.com/Grill-Care-Charcoal-Weber-22-5-Grill-Cooking-Grate-/390311138388?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ae05b5454

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_9990000084659111P?mv=rr&i_cntr=1305670695278

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07142824000P?mv=rr
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PostPosted: Wed May 18 11 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Teleking and Pinkelephant for the links. Those prices are great. Some won't ship internationally.

Pretty much every one that I clicked on, added 2 to the cart, proceed to checkout, and then I saw the shipping charge - $25 on average per item!
So, each grate would come to $45-$50. No thanks.

I have come to the realization that it costs a lot to ship anything across the border.

I will continue to explore my options.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23 11 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a burn done.


It looks as if there is another layer of paint under the original liner. Mad



I will likely take the weed burner to it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28 11 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finally finished.
It seemed as if every weekend my wife and I were visiting friends or family.
As a result, this project took longer than I expected.

I want to thank everyone for all the contributions on this forum for building a UDS.

I got a donated old gasser ready for the dump.
Decided to salvage the sides.


I ended up getting new wood for the side shelves.
Here it is all finished.



I'm not sure if the fibreglass rope was necessary.
I used high temp RTV to fasten it.
There is just a slight warp to the lid, which is why I did this.

I used hog rings to hold the expanded metal together.




I have 2 cooking grates.
I want to try SoEzzy's method of using open ended cans to separate the 2 levels.

Seasoning questions:
How long should I season it for?

What temperature?

I was wondering if I could put some meat on after the required amount of time for seasoning is complete while the smoker is still hot?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30 11 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know another canadian pulling together the parts. where did you get the grates?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30 11 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL, you think you can see that tiny gauge?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30 11 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pinkelephant wrote:
I know another canadian pulling together the parts. where did you get the grates?

I picked them up here:
http://www.bbqs.com/
It's just north of Toronto, south of Barrie.

Pinkelephant wrote:
LOL, you think you can see that tiny gauge?

I like it a lot!!

I want to season it soon, any pointers/tips?
Can I throw some meat on after the required season time while still hot?
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