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YODQ4U
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PostPosted: Mar 12 2011    Post subject: Knife sharpener? Reply with quote

Has anybody used or heard about the Work Sharp knife and tool sharpener? Was thinking about buying one. A friend of mine just bought one the other day and it seems to work pretty good.
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PostPosted: Mar 12 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at the Lansky kits and compare them. I have not tired the one you mentioned, but I have been 100% satisfied with my Lansky. I bought a benchmade pocket knife partially because of their lifesharp program (send it in, they sharpen it for only a small shipping charge), but I found that I can get it razor sharp myself in 5 minutes with this kit. It has also worked very well on my kitchen and hunting knives. Sorry I cant comment on the Work Sharp (the video makes it look good) but I can definitely vouch for the Lansky. Compare them, one may work better for you than the other. I paid about $40 for mine
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PostPosted: Mar 12 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMHO any motorized knife sharpener removes way more metal from the blade than necessary to get it sharp. Sure it is quick and easy, but your knives slowly disappear. I prefer a good wet stone. The wet stone still takes off metal, but at a much slower rate. I will add that I earn my living using my knives, and have for the last 16 yrs. I still have and use the first knife I bought. It is still holds a nice edge, but it is a little smaller, and has only been sharpened with a stone/ steel. My dad used a guy that sharpened knives for a living using a larger version of what you asked about. Most of his knives ended up looking like fillet knives after a few years.

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PostPosted: Mar 12 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

ckone wrote:
IMHO any motorized knife sharpener removes way more metal from the blade than necessary to get it sharp. Sure it is quick and easy, but your knives slowly disappear. I prefer a good wet stone. The wet stone still takes off metal, but at a much slower rate. I will add that I earn my living using my knives, and have for the last 16 yrs. I still have and use the first knife I bought. It is still holds a nice edge, but it is a little smaller, and has only been sharpened with a stone/ steel. My dad used a guy that sharpened knives for a living using a larger version of what you asked about. Most of his knives ended up looking like fillet knives after a few years.

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X2 For my money a 3 stone oil cradle can't be beat. Sadly a lot of people let a edge get so bad that serious metal removal is needed. For that reason I have a Tru-Hone 3 stage comercial sharpener at my shop. It takes some metal off but puts an edge on that is spooky sharp.
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PostPosted: Mar 12 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

And then there are those of us that can put the finest round edge on a perfectly sharp knife that you will ever see. I have that capability / handicap. A short but useful lifespan is all I can hope for. I may need this. My Ginsu rocks.
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PostPosted: Mar 13 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like my Chef's Choice 120 Diamond Hone 3-Stage Knife Sharpener and have paired it with Chef's Choice 470 SteelPro. I chose this combo over the Chef's Choice 130 which is actually newer model which is similar but has a stationary sharpening steel like the 470 and only one sharpening diamond wheel. The 120 has 2 sharpening wheels where one of them pretty aggressively removes metal but you need this occasionally when you are setting a new angle on a really dull knife. It is not intended to be used all the time. The other sharpening wheel is what you need for normal sharpening. I have run my best knives through this wheel and I don't think it removes too much metal. The 470 is a replacement for a sharpening steel. It holds the knife at the right angle while using the steel. It works great.

I can sharpen a knife in 5 minutes with this combo and think is is great. I have tried manual sharpening methods and like this better.

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PostPosted: Mar 13 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wreckless wrote:
And then there are those of us that can put the finest round edge on a perfectly sharp knife that you will ever see.


I'm pretty good at that too Wreckless! I've tried all kinds of stones, steels, sticks, about everything out there. I've made a blade sharp a few times, but it was just luck. I just got a "Accusharp" (from Marble Falls, Texas) in the mail today, can't wait to find out how many good blades I can screw up with it! It's frustrated me all my life that such a basic talent is one that I have never mastered.
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PostPosted: Mar 13 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmike25 wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
And then there are those of us that can put the finest round edge on a perfectly sharp knife that you will ever see.


I'm pretty good at that too Wreckless! I've tried all kinds of stones, steels, sticks, about everything out there. I've made a blade sharp a few times, but it was just luck. I just got a "Accusharp" (from Marble Falls, Texas) in the mail today, can't wait to find out how many good blades I can screw up with it! It's frustrated me all my life that such a basic talent is one that I have never mastered.


You're right, over time, that Accusharp is going to screw up your blades. I don't mind motorized sharpeners so much as long as they offer a non-aggressive, stropping option. You need that to touch up the edge w/o removing material. And even then I would not use a mechanized sharpener on an expensive blade.

Most folks lessen the life of their blades with motorized sharpeners because they think their knives need "sharpening" when they really don't. The machine makes it so easy to sharpen that you do it way too often. A good knife only needs sharpening occasionally. I know quality chefs who only have their knives "sharpened" two, maybe three times a year. They use a steel to hone the edge many times a day, but their blades get ground very infrequently.
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PostPosted: Mar 15 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I figured there would be some naysayers. Chef's Choice 120 Diamond Hone 3-Stage Knife Sharpener does have a strobing stage that I didn't mention.

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PostPosted: Mar 15 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeorgeH, I thought there was something strikingly familiar about the Chef's Choice that you mentioned. I note that Cabellas features a few models of the Chef's Choice.

Link here to Cabellas

I hear what the guys are saying about the virtues of manually shapening a knife but there's some of us that are "challenged" when it comes to a wet stone. Believe me... I've tried, and I've tried, and I've tried. Very Happy

Thanks for the info!
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PostPosted: Mar 16 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you are challenged then it's time for a samurai shark Laughing

A good old wet stone to do a quick shoulder fix then fine tune it with a steel. Basic but effective
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PostPosted: Mar 16 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toga wrote:
if you are challenged then it's time for a samurai shark Laughing


Thank you!!! My self esteem just took the elevator to the basement.

Got any sharpening products from the Slap Chop guy?
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PostPosted: Mar 16 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smokin Mike wrote:
GeorgeH, I thought there was something strikingly familiar about the Chef's Choice that you mentioned. I note that Cabellas features a few models of the Chef's Choice.

Link here to Cabellas

I hear what the guys are saying about the virtues of manually shapening a knife but there's some of us that are "challenged" when it comes to a wet stone. Believe me... I've tried, and I've tried, and I've tried. Very Happy

Thanks for the info!


They have one like I bought but it is a bit more expensive. I did a google shopping search and found this site has it for $99.19 plus shipping. The site plays some sort of game on entering your e-mail to get their best price but you can just click on "Add to Cart" and you can see the price. I haven't ever bought from this site so I'm not sure if it is trustworthy but it appears to be OK.

http://www.manventureoutpost.com/products/ChefsChoice%7B47%7DEdgecraft-0120001-M120-DiaEdgeSelect-%252b-Sharpenr%7B47%7DBlk.html

Sharpening them with this sure beats a wet stone. The good thing about buying the 470 SteelPro is that you can put away the 120 and only drag it out occasionally but keep the 470 out to use frequently.

The best price I found for it is:

http://www.amazon.com/Chefs-Choice-470-SteelPro/dp/B00075M2A4

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PostPosted: Mar 16 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use one of these with an abrasive wheel on one side and a paper wheel on the other. In my opinion it is the best way to put a razor edge on all my knives. I use everything from pocketknives to large breaking knives and cimeters on it.

http://www.baldor.com/products/detail.asp?1=1&page=1&catalogonly=1&catalog=114&product=Grinders%2FBuffers&family=Buffers|vw_GrindBuff_Buffers
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PostPosted: Mar 17 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmike25 wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
And then there are those of us that can put the finest round edge on a perfectly sharp knife that you will ever see.


I'm pretty good at that too Wreckless! I've tried all kinds of stones, steels, sticks, about everything out there. I've made a blade sharp a few times, but it was just luck. I just got a "Accusharp" (from Marble Falls, Texas) in the mail today, can't wait to find out how many good blades I can screw up with it! It's frustrated me all my life that such a basic talent is one that I have never mastered.


I use one like this but I forget the brand. I have a bunch of stones and given enough time I can sharpen a knife. Is it me or is the steel used today harder to sharpen? Anyhow, I use one like the Accusharp on my pocket knives cause I can throw an edge on one in a hurry that cuts the stuff I cut the most like baling twine, rope, and such. I have used stones on a cheap stainless fold out for an hour and never got it to where I was happy. I slid one of these across it a few times and it will cut string and rope easily now.

I don't usually spend more than around $25 for a pocket knife and I usually loose them or break the blades before I wear the steel down.

I guess I refer to it as the idiot proof sharpener and that is why I have one.
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PostPosted: Mar 17 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is a set of wheels i got from smokey mountain and they work great once you get knife sharp to re sharpen all you have to do is make a pass or two and its sharp again. i don't think it takes that much metal off because of the fine grit. but anytime you put a razor edge on a knife it won't hold as long as a regular knife edge . looking ar 10-15 degrees on a razor edge compare to 20-25 degrees on a knife edge
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