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dawg BBQ Fan
Joined: 24 Mar 2009 Posts: 184 Location: Solomon,Kansas
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Posted: Jan 03 2011 Post subject: minion method |
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is the minion method worth trying or useing in an UDS? I have a 14 inch dia. coal basket and was thinking of a 3lb coffee can in the middle and putting lump and what not around it, and putting the lit lump in the can then pull the can.
Also how many posts do i need to graduate from newbie? _________________ when the going gets tough...... eat more fiber!!! |
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k.a.m. BBQ Mega Star

Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 26020 Location: Southeast Texas.
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Posted: Jan 03 2011 Post subject: |
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dawg, the minion method is all I use in the UDS and the WSM's. I would say it is very worth using. Your idea is some what like Canadian Bacon uses when firing his WSM.
As far as the post count I am not sure, I never look at post counts.  _________________ Always remember slow and steady wins the race.
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SoEzzy BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 13183 Location: SLC, UT
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I use the minions method almost exclusively in my UDS's so that I don't need to work hard on loading or refueling in the middle of the cook.
I build the briquettes and chunk wood in the basket, then start a 1/2 chimney starter for 250° on a 55 gallon drum and 3/4 for 250° on the 85 gallon drums, if you want it hotter use more briquettes in the chimney starter, you'll need to work out what amounts to use.
I put my lit briquettes on the top, I don't like the idea of putting them in the middle as I think this may light more briquettes as it burns than you need to maintain the heat you require.
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dawg BBQ Fan
Joined: 24 Mar 2009 Posts: 184 Location: Solomon,Kansas
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thanks kam. you dont need to look at post counts cuz you have like a million. LOL _________________ when the going gets tough...... eat more fiber!!! |
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Big Immigrant
Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Posts: 21 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted: Jan 03 2011 Post subject: |
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I am very new to smoking, but I just put the lit 1/2 chimney on top of the pile in my wsm and it works well.
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Jeff T BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 08 Mar 2005 Posts: 4207 Location: Norfolk, Nebraska
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I feel the same as the other its about the only way to cook when using charcoal or lump. I even use that method when grilling.
But most times in my UDS i just hit the center with a weed burner for a minute or so. It`ll climb up to temp in no time. The drums are just too easy to cook on.... meaning they work so well. |
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BluDawg BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 30 Jul 2009 Posts: 2071 Location: Jonesboro,Tx.
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I use the Minnion method in My drum I light up 8 briquettes and lay them in the center of the lump drop it in and I'm up to tmp and ready to load the meat in 20 min cursing at 230-240. _________________ Never met a cow that I didn't like with a little salt and pepper.
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Soapm BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 06 Aug 2010 Posts: 2087 Location: Mile High City
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| BluDawg wrote: | | I use the Minnion method in My drum I light up 8 briquettes and lay them in the center of the lump drop it in and I'm up to tmp and ready to load the meat in 20 min cursing at 230-240. |
Why do you curse at 230-240? You don't have anything else to curse at?
As I'm loading the basket with RO I put the large and irregular pieces in the chimney. I may only have 3 or 4 pieces or I may have 7 or 8. Either way I go with it and it seems to work. Just takes a little longer to get up to temp.
Something KAM made me aware while using lump, irregular pieces causes temp changes so I found it's a lot less work if I pull them out and use them to light the pile. |
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Canadian Bacon BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 13550 Location: Mississauga ON Canada
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Dawg I use the exact same method you do in my Whiskey barrel,and my WSM....works great fo me. _________________ Horizon Offset (Marshall RD Special)
30 " Electric Masterbuilt(Digital)
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Pit Boss BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 04 Sep 2008 Posts: 2362 Location: Mt. Pleasant, South Carolina
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Ditch the coffee can and just dump the lit coals right on top...you'll get a slower burn that way.
This is how you bank your fire....errr....I mean, this is how you adapt the minion method into something better. _________________ Somewhere in Kenya...a village is missing their idiot. |
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Canadian Bacon BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 13550 Location: Mississauga ON Canada
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Posted: Jan 04 2011 Post subject: |
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Experiment with different methods,I have tried them all and I find in my Whiskey Barrel and WSM this is the method I prefere,everything burns evenly and temp is much easier to control when things burn even.Im not saying this method is better,but it works better for me.
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30 " Electric Masterbuilt(Digital)
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Napoleon Legend Gasser
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k.a.m. BBQ Mega Star

Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 26020 Location: Southeast Texas.
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| Pit Boss wrote: | Ditch the coffee can and just dump the lit coals right on top...you'll get a slower burn that way.
This is how you bank your fire....errr....I mean, this is how you adapt the minion method into something better. |
Why is ditching the can better? It seems to be working quite well for some members. Personally I do not use a can but I believe any way you start a slow burn still produces the same result at the end of the day. _________________ Always remember slow and steady wins the race.
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Tony BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 06 Feb 2005 Posts: 3486 Location: Rehoboth Beach ,Delaware
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Posted: Jan 04 2011 Post subject: |
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Nice pictorial,C.B. !
Good Stuff and simple for All to follow!
Best Regards,
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Pit Boss BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 04 Sep 2008 Posts: 2362 Location: Mt. Pleasant, South Carolina
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| k.a.m. wrote: | | Pit Boss wrote: | Ditch the coffee can and just dump the lit coals right on top...you'll get a slower burn that way.
This is how you bank your fire....errr....I mean, this is how you adapt the minion method into something better. |
Why is ditching the can better? It seems to be working quite well for some members. Personally I do not use a can but I believe any way you start a slow burn still produces the same result at the end of the day. |
I didn't say it was better...just that you'll get a slower burn.
Fire burns slower "down" than it does "up". Just a thought. _________________ Somewhere in Kenya...a village is missing their idiot. |
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Rare Breed BBQ Pro
Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Posts: 619 Location: Fredericksburg, Va
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| I use CB's way also but I use the smaller size coffee can and it works perfect everytime for me. CB is that the large gallon size coffee can? I use the one that is roughly quart size. On the WSM the fire burns according to how I have the vents open. |
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k.a.m. BBQ Mega Star

Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 26020 Location: Southeast Texas.
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| Pit Boss wrote: | | k.a.m. wrote: | | Pit Boss wrote: | Ditch the coffee can and just dump the lit coals right on top...you'll get a slower burn that way.
This is how you bank your fire....errr....I mean, this is how you adapt the minion method into something better. |
Why is ditching the can better? It seems to be working quite well for some members. Personally I do not use a can but I believe any way you start a slow burn still produces the same result at the end of the day. |
I didn't say it was better...just that you'll get a slower burn.
Fire burns slower "down" than it does "up". Just a thought. |
Actually the way the pic is it looks to me that the coals burn in an outward motion not really upward.  _________________ Always remember slow and steady wins the race.
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dawg BBQ Fan
Joined: 24 Mar 2009 Posts: 184 Location: Solomon,Kansas
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i have been pretty much filling the coal basket with lump and smokin wood to almost full. then i will will fill my chimney with small chunks of lump, light it and just pour over top of the coal basket. i then let the basket sit for about thirty minutes before i put it in the UDS, seems to work so far, just thinking of trying something different. by the way do any of you let your coal basket set a bit before putting in the drum? or am i being anal again? _________________ when the going gets tough...... eat more fiber!!! |
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BluDawg BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 30 Jul 2009 Posts: 2071 Location: Jonesboro,Tx.
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I put the hot coals on top and drop it in the drum. _________________ Never met a cow that I didn't like with a little salt and pepper.
My Blog: http://acountryboyeats.blogspot.com
Char Griller Super Pro w/SFB
Webber 22 OTS
Memorial UDS "Big Jim" |
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Canadian Bacon BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 13550 Location: Mississauga ON Canada
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| Rare Breed wrote: | | I use CB's way also but I use the smaller size coffee can and it works perfect everytime for me. CB is that the large gallon size coffee can? I use the one that is roughly quart size. On the WSM the fire burns according to how I have the vents open. |
I use the large in my whiskey barrel,but I use the smaller quart size in wsm. _________________ Horizon Offset (Marshall RD Special)
30 " Electric Masterbuilt(Digital)
Large BGE
Napoleon Legend Gasser
20"& 26" Discada
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Soapm BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 06 Aug 2010 Posts: 2087 Location: Mile High City
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| Canadian Bacon wrote: | Experiment with different methods,I have tried them all and I find in my Whiskey Barrel and WSM this is the method I prefere,everything burns evenly and temp is much easier to control when things burn even.Im not saying this method is better,but it works better for me.
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That's all the wood you use? I use a lot more than that in mine and it seems the smoke runs out half through my cooks. |
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