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3970010
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PostPosted: Sep 26 2006    Post subject: Have noticed a lot of 1st time competitors. Reply with quote

Have noticed a lot of 1st time competitors, thats a good thing and it is exciting. I hope yall are having as much fun as I am. Lots of work though, huh¿
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Lots of work though, huh¿


I competed in an amateur event on the Canadian circuit this last weekend. I just had to hand in ribs. I figured, no problem. Then time starts running out, you have things to do, a box to present and then wait for the scores. It was all very exciting AND nerve-wracking. I don't know how you pros do it Very Happy . Guess I'll find out next year when we compete with the big boys on the Canadian side.

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Lots of work though, huh¿

I don't know how you pros do it Very Happy .

Allan


Wow, its really hard to for me to think of myself as a pro. I dont think we have different classes for "amateur" or "pro". The competitions here are open to anybody. Some of us spend big money on our BBQ rigs and people show up with a WSM or an Old Smokey and just put a whoopin on us. I have only been competing since June of this year. I have gotten a 2nd & 3rd in brisket, 6th in chicken (ok my wife cooked the chicken) and 10th in beans (wife too) and this weekend I got 1st in ribs. We are having a good time and learning ALOT. Making a lot of friends too.
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I just finished my rookie season with 3 comps and I'm hooked. I had some successes, failures and all around good times. I encourage everyone to give it a try. It is an expensive hobby though. To do 8 - 10 comps per year, like I want, I'll need to get some more dedicated help.
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I think that we are going to continue to see lots of new teams every year for a while....competitive BBQ is growing and should continue to grow very quickly...To me BBQ is just like poker, everyone thinks that they can BBQ(the friends always say theirs is the best Wink ) and for the netry fee and what not you can go out and put your BBQ up against the best in the world. Not to many other things where you can show up with the same stuff you use at home at compete with the pros...Just like poker....pros use the same deck and the same chips you do...I think that has helped poker grow and I think that it will help BBQ grow as well...

they just need to figure out how to make BBQ watchable on TV and we will have something. I think that the TV part of it is big, but they should also be stressing the fact that some BBQ folks are just BBQ folks that they actually have day jobs and what not...like they do with poker...they kinda tell you the brief history at folks at the final table...so and so started playing online a year ago and now he is sitting at the final table with 5 million in chips in front of him...

I think that a lot of times you see the shows on the food network and stuff and you get the idea that you have to drop lots of money have a big rig to go out and win...you dont....you can win on anything...I still have 2 contest left in my rookie season, next year I plan on setting my goals a little higher...
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t..I still have 2 contest left in my rookie season, next year I plan on setting my goals a little higher...


I have the feeling that you are not a rookie.
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...I think that the TV part of it is big, but they should also be stressing the fact that some BBQ folks are just BBQ folks that they actually have day jobs and what not...I think that a lot of times you see the shows on the food network and stuff and you get the idea that you have to drop lots of money have a big rig to go out and win...you dont....


Dawg, you make excellent points. If I could just give my point of view, because I am a total rookie...

Watching some of the BBQ competition specials on the Food Network is what really got me interested and got me surfing the net to find out more about this passion we call BBQ, so TV is a big influencer, but I too was scared and thought I would have to drop a lot of coin, not really to get started, but if I wanted to compete I figured I'd have to give up my day job, take a second mortgage, etc etc. TV, is a little bad for that. I know that watching someone cook on a WSM isn't as exciting as watching some of those big rigs and TV has to be exciting, but it would be nice to see some of the smaller set ups also. AND, knowing that the folks that you see on TV haven't given up their day jobs would help also. In any case, I've managed to figure a few things out, and next year will be competing on the Canadian Circuit with a couple of guys I met on the Canadian BBQ Assoc. Forum (carolinesrub from this forum)
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t..I still have 2 contest left in my rookie season, next year I plan on setting my goals a little higher...


I have the feeling that you are not a rookie.


Well it is my first year competing..I really havent been cooking for that long...
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DawgPhan wrote:
...I think that the TV part of it is big, but they should also be stressing the fact that some BBQ folks are just BBQ folks that they actually have day jobs and what not...I think that a lot of times you see the shows on the food network and stuff and you get the idea that you have to drop lots of money have a big rig to go out and win...you dont....


Dawg, you make excellent points. If I could just give my point of view, because I am a total rookie...

Watching some of the BBQ competition specials on the Food Network is what really got me interested and got me surfing the net to find out more about this passion we call BBQ, so TV is a big influencer, but I too was scared and thought I would have to drop a lot of coin, not really to get started, but if I wanted to compete I figured I'd have to give up my day job, take a second mortgage, etc etc. TV, is a little bad for that. I know that watching someone cook on a WSM isn't as exciting as watching some of those big rigs and TV has to be exciting, but it would be nice to see some of the smaller set ups also. AND, knowing that the folks that you see on TV haven't given up their day jobs would help also. In any case, I've managed to figure a few things out, and next year will be competing on the Canadian Circuit with a couple of guys I met on the Canadian BBQ Assoc. Forum (carolinesrub from this forum)


exactly when they are start actually talking about the average people that compete then we will have something...sure Dr. BBQ and Myron Mixon have great BBQ names they dont really show what is actually happening at these events...There are lots of folks cooking that arent full time BBQ guys and lots of them are doing really well...I think that talking about that aspect would really help increase the popularity...
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they dont really show what is actually happening at these events...
I have noticed also that when they show one of those competitions on TV they dont really show much. They might look at the BBQ rigs for a second, they might show some rub being put on but they dont talk about what really goes into cooking one of these events.
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they dont really show what is actually happening at these events...
I have noticed also that when they show one of those competitions on TV they dont really show much. They might look at the BBQ rigs for a second, they might show some rub being put on but they dont talk about what really goes into cooking one of these events.



Yeah I thought that the All-Star BBQ Showdown did a good job of showing the ins and outs of the whole contest thing...
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I agree it is always good to see new competitors.

The growth of KCBS and FBA really helps to get the new commers in the contests. Thier contest styles don't require huge cooking rigs or large teams to cook enough product for the judging.

This is the big thing I see that is limiting some new participation in the MIM contests. To really do the MIM contests properly you got to have a cooker(s) that is large enough to cook a whole hog, or 6 whole shoulders, or 12 racks of ribs; just to cook enough for the different judges (the preliminary blind and on-site and then finals). I have been an MIM competitor for 10 years, our equipment has grown and evolved over the years when we cooked our first contest we had no clue what we were getting into, or what to do, much less be competitive. We got some TV time on a Food TV special about the 2004 MIM World Championship (3rd place ribs)

I like to give back as well, and am willing to help anyone that wants to learn more about the MIM process.

Through the internet and some of the TV specials the interest in competitive BBQ will continue to grow.
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Ive done 7 this year and plan on one more in Nov.. Even the smallest one Ive done was 10 times more work than they show on the tube. The thing I found funny is when Bobby Flay got beat he even admitted he could grill but really couldnt BBQ. (AHHHH sweet victory.) Just goes to show you that in real life this whole Q thing is alot of work and dedication. Most cant just watch TV and jump right into competition. Happy Q-ing! Twisted Evil

(Will any of you be at the Houston/ Diamonds and Dollars Comp. in Nov?)
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Rub N Smoke wrote:
Ive done 7 this year and plan on one more in Nov.. Even the smallest one Ive done was 10 times more work than they show on the tube. The thing I found funny is when Bobby Flay got beat he even admitted he could grill but really couldnt BBQ. (AHHHH sweet victory.) Just goes to show you that in real life this whole Q thing is alot of work and dedication. Most cant just watch TV and jump right into competition. Happy Q-ing! Twisted Evil

(Will any of you be at the Houston/ Diamonds and Dollars Comp. in Nov?)


I was thinking about doing it as a worm up for the round rock cook off Twisted Evil
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(Will any of you be at the Houston/ Diamonds and Dollars Comp. in Nov?)


Remind me, what is the date on this one? Also, what part of Houston do you live in if you dont mind sharing? I live around Beltway 8 & Lake Houston Parkway (North East Houston)

I too have done exactly 7 comps this year. I will probably do two more in October and two more in November and then get out of it untill Feburary at the Humble Rodeo. This is my first year.
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Texas Holdem' Poker didn't get popular or do very well on tv until they implemented the "holdem cam" so that the viewers could see what they were betting with.

Maybe tv smoking competitions need a "Smoker cam"? Shocked
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BBQ SHOWDOWN
http://www.versus.tv/nw/article/view/20854/?UserDef=true&catID=79

I dont know if that will help or hurt the popularity of the sport...on the plus side there is a lot of money involved....on the down side it is the same group of folks that you see on every program. So it doesnt really inspired anyone new to come out and try and compete...with poker it seems that every final table has some guy that won his way into his seat playing in a $20 satelite game or something, or playing on the internet...

BBQ has that aspect but they just have to show it off..

You can just be watching it on TV one day and then come out and compete with the big boys...BBQ needs to highlight that..Big money isnt going to make the sport grow, people thinking that they can win big money is going to help the sport grow...
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I doubt any of us are going to break into that gig. That same old group is probably going to keep under pretty tight control and not let someone off of any of our BBQ circuits come take a slice of their pie. It will probably be more like WWF than poker. But hell, we'll watch it. That's all Weber, Kingsford, Bud, etc want to know.
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mrcustomsteel wrote:
I doubt any of us are going to break into that gig. That same old group is probably going to keep under pretty tight control and not let someone off of any of our BBQ circuits come take a slice of their pie. It will probably be more like WWF than poker. But hell, we'll watch it. That's all Weber, Kingsford, Bud, etc want to know.


I have a feeling you are right, but I dont know that it is the best thing for the "sport(?)".
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The Dollar and Diamonds comp. is going to be Nov. 10 & 11. in Katy, @ (I think) a place called Bryants Ice House. Twisted Evil
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