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PostPosted: Sep 30 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

SmokinOkie wrote:
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... This is to be a dedicated 'cold' smoker, only running up to 155°F or so.


I don't see 155 as Cold Smoking. Everything I see usually says below 100 degrees so that you don't do ANY cooking of the product.

For me, 3 hours is too much. And key is how much wood and smoke you're generating.

Try a batch at lower temps, and do two steps. Step one, smoke some for an hour, step two, smoke some for 2 hours total.

Seal and taste the next day.

Then you can come the wood flavor itself with two different durations.


Actually, it will probably never see temps. over 90F. I plan to use it for cheese, dry cured sausages, and smoking jerky before I run it on the dehydrator. I also think 3 hours was a little much, especially for such small (4oz.) test pieces. Thanks for the input.
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PostPosted: Sep 30 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't smoked cheese in a while now, last time I did
I tried to keep the temp. at around 70-80. Smoked
with hickory for about 1hr. then rapped and put in the
fridge. for a day or two. If the temp. out side is 80
or over I don't even attempt smoking.


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PostPosted: Oct 01 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

milt wrote:
Haven't smoked cheese in a while now, last time I did
I tried to keep the temp. at around 70-80. Smoked
with hickory for about 1hr. then rapped and put in the
fridge. for a day or two. If the temp. out side is 80
or over I don't even attempt smoking.




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PostPosted: Oct 01 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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milt wrote:
Haven't smoked cheese in a while now, last time I did
I tried to keep the temp. at around 70-80. Smoked
with hickory for about 1hr. then rapped and put in the
fridge. for a day or two. If the temp. out side is 80
or over I don't even attempt smoking.




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PostPosted: Oct 01 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

milt wrote:
Oregon smoker wrote:
milt wrote:
Haven't smoked cheese in a while now, last time I did
I tried to keep the temp. at around 70-80. Smoked
with hickory for about 1hr. then rapped and put in the
fridge. for a day or two. If the temp. out side is 80
or over I don't even attempt smoking.




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PostPosted: Oct 05 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

No pics (who wants to see me cut the cheese anyhow Rolling Eyes ), but I did sample the cheeses last night. The smell was still powerful, but not as off putting as earlier. I allowed the cheese to breathe for about an hour unwrapped in my garage fridge before sampling. I do still think that 3 hours was a little long for these small 4oz. pieces, but the flavor was excellent. As a reminder, I used applewood pellets in my 'hybrid' cold smoker. Next round I will stick with the applewood, and pull some off at 1 hour and the rest at the 2 hour mark, wrap for a week, and compare. Thanks for the help and encouragement all Cool
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PostPosted: Oct 16 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just finished smoking two small rounds of Gouda and a block of Swiss. They are cooling in the fridge right now and I will post some pic's in a bit. I tried to keep my smoker at 100° -125° for two hours and used Alder to smoke with. I will pass on the taste report in a bit also.

Last weekend I smoked some Pepper Jack using Maple which turned out pretty good for my first time. It was fairly warm here so keeping my smoker under 150° was almost impossible. I can't eat much Pepper Jack myself so I gave it to a buddy to taste test and he said that he really liked it but his 5 year old daughter went nuts over it. Woo hoo, now that's a good critique if there ever was one right? Laughing

Update and picture addition:

I just tasted the two cheeses. I am not big on Swiss cheese but still tasty none the less. The Gouda on the other hand was really good. My wife does day care here and one of the kids wanted to taste it. She really liked it.

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Question? Does anyone ever brine cheese? Dry/wet?

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PostPosted: Oct 16 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Question? Does anyone ever brine cheese? Dry/wet?[/color]


http://www.recipetips.com/glossary-term/t--38760/brinecured-cheese.asp
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Question? Does anyone ever brine cheese? Dry/wet?[/color]


http://www.recipetips.com/glossary-term/t--38760/brinecured-cheese.asp



Thanks SoEzzy, I looked at the link but that seems to refer to when the cheese is being made. I am asking more about one of us brining just before smoking. Thank you for the link it was interesting to read.
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PostPosted: Oct 18 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

tacklebox wrote:
No pics (who wants to see me cut the cheese anyhow Rolling Eyes ), but I did sample the cheeses last night. The smell was still powerful, but not as off putting as earlier. I allowed the cheese to breathe for about an hour unwrapped in my garage fridge before sampling. I do still think that 3 hours was a little long for these small 4oz. pieces, but the flavor was excellent. As a reminder, I used applewood pellets in my 'hybrid' cold smoker. Next round I will stick with the applewood, and pull some off at 1 hour and the rest at the 2 hour mark, wrap for a week, and compare. Thanks for the help and encouragement all Cool


Did you ever smoke a second batch?
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PostPosted: Nov 13 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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tacklebox wrote:
No pics (who wants to see me cut the cheese anyhow Rolling Eyes ), but I did sample the cheeses last night. The smell was still powerful, but not as off putting as earlier. I allowed the cheese to breathe for about an hour unwrapped in my garage fridge before sampling. I do still think that 3 hours was a little long for these small 4oz. pieces, but the flavor was excellent. As a reminder, I used applewood pellets in my 'hybrid' cold smoker. Next round I will stick with the applewood, and pull some off at 1 hour and the rest at the 2 hour mark, wrap for a week, and compare. Thanks for the help and encouragement all Cool


Did you ever smoke a second batch?


Not yet, been too friggin busy. Gonna throw some on when I do some jerky this weekend. Now I forget, is it cheese over beef...or beef over cheese Rolling Eyes Wink
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PostPosted: Nov 13 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like cheese over beef, a la Philly Cheese steak! Wink Laughing Wink
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PostPosted: Nov 13 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I like cheese over beef, a la Philly Cheese steak! Wink Laughing Wink

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PostPosted: Jan 26 2011    Post subject: Keeping yer cool Reply with quote

Anyone try block ice in the water pan to help keep the temp down? I'm going to try my hand at cheese this weekend and Ive been trying to brainstorm a way to keep the temp down even though it will probably be around 0 outside anyhow.
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PostPosted: Jan 26 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike, what kind of smoker do you have?

If it's charcoal, you could always use a very small load of charcoal in a tin can or something so the heat source is small, which would make the overall heat level low.
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Ive got the standard charbroil barrel w/ sidebox right now. I live just north of Buffalo so Its pretty cold right now it will make it easier to keep a low heat. This summer I'm building an insulated brick smokehouse in my outdoor kitchen, and I have a couple 55 gallon drums begging to be used.
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Mike, you should be able to build either a very small fire or even make a small container to hold charcoal and wood so that it will put out plenty of smoke, but only a small amount of heat. Heck, with the temps you have, you may NEED some heat or have to deal with freezing the cheese.
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Yeah Scott it shouldnt be too hard right now. Ive probably used it 5 or 600 times since I got it 4 yrs ago so I've gotten pretty good at temp control and fire size. I was looking more towards summer because it does get in the 90s here and it gets kind of difficult then.
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miketurner1 wrote:
Yeah Scott it shouldnt be too hard right now. Ive probably used it 5 or 600 times since I got it 4 yrs ago so I've gotten pretty good at temp control and fire size. I was looking more towards summer because it does get in the 90s here and it gets kind of difficult then.


Oh, well, do what I plan on doing and smoke all the cheese you need for the year before the warm weather comes and vacuum seal it and shove it in the back of the fridge to keep it all summer long.
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That's a good idea Scott. I should hit the farmers market this weekend and load up. Its relatively inexpensive and really good quality. what size chunks do you cut it in before you put it on the smoker?
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