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dawg BBQ Fan
Joined: 24 Mar 2009 Posts: 184 Location: Solomon,Kansas
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Posted: Sep 07 2010 Post subject: i hate briskets,,, aauugghh |
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Ok so what is the secret to briskets???? I've done eight briskets to date and only ONE was good. I just did one today on my new DPP, it was a six pounder did the soak in Dr. Pepper, mustard slather and rubbed. Put it on at 7:00 a.m. took off at 4:30p.m. at 185° , foiled and rested. One hour later took out and sliced and as usual its DRY, why???? Temps were 225-250. The dino bones and the fatties done today turned out fine. I think briskets are my enemy!! _________________ when the going gets tough...... eat more fiber!!! |
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Jarhead BBQ All Star

Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 7355 Location: Marionville, Home of the White Squirrels, Missouri
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Posted: Sep 07 2010 Post subject: |
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dawg, you might try foiling at about 160°, then take it on up. That may screw up your bark.
I haven't done a long cook on my Fat 50 yet, that's why I have UDSs  _________________ Gunny 3073/4044/8411
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k.a.m. BBQ Mega Star

Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 26020 Location: Southeast Texas.
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Posted: Sep 07 2010 Post subject: |
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dawg, was it just a flat and if so was it trimmed heavily? You might try a whle packer and give it a whirl. I agree with Jarhead on wrapping at the 160° to 170° mark if the cut is lean. It makes for a real challenge trying to keep a cut like that moist for that long a burn. _________________ Always remember slow and steady wins the race.
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SoEzzy BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 13183 Location: SLC, UT
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Posted: Sep 08 2010 Post subject: |
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I go even lower with flats, I'll foil a flat after the 140's internal have been reached, at that level it still has plenty of juice in it, wrap and take it to the 187 - 192, then if I want to firm up the bark, I open the foil, remove the juice, leave the top of the foil open put the meat back on for the last 30 minutes to dry the outside just a little.
I wouldn't do that for competition but I will do it for the family.  _________________ Here's a change Robert.
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DunnRite Newbie
Joined: 21 Aug 2010 Posts: 37 Location: Ardmore, OK
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Posted: Sep 14 2010 Post subject: |
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I always do whole packers, and I don't trim anything until after the cook. Some will say they come out greasy this way. The only dry briskets I've had were trimmed. _________________ Some people dream about success...
While others get up and work at it. |
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SVonhof BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 03 Sep 2010 Posts: 1420 Location: Central Valley, Ca
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Posted: Sep 15 2010 Post subject: |
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The first brisket I did was a small flat that was trimmed pretty good and it came out dry. I didn't foil it at all and it was like leather when re-heated the next day.
The second time I did brisket, it was a whole packer(13lb) that I cut in half and then trimmed the fat layer to just over 1/4" thick. It came out partially moist, but not as moist as I would have liked, but it was tender. I did foil it, but not until about 175 (should have done it a little earlier). I still have the rest of the flat as well as the point in my freezer that I need to find a weekend to smoke so I can also do some burnt ends. _________________ Scott V.
My BBQ's: Weber Silver B (grill), -UDS-, MUDS/Weber Smokey Joe |
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Mike Lawry BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2122 Location: Parts unknown
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Posted: Sep 15 2010 Post subject: |
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Next time maybe try the kikaxe way.
Just put a full packer brisket in a foil pan for your smoke.
Heck, the bottom is just fat + you will save all the juices + keep your bark on the top.
I either do this or just foil @ 160ish. I want da juices.
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Pit Boss BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 04 Sep 2008 Posts: 2362 Location: Mt. Pleasant, South Carolina
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Posted: Oct 01 2010 Post subject: |
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I can say that I've never cooked a dry brisket.
#1 - I don't cook flats...especially the 4-6# overtrimmed things you find in the typical grocery.
#2 - I have never foiled a brisket...never had the need, don't understand the need.
IF you MUST cook one of those tiny flats that have no fat on it, I would recommend covering the top with some pretty fatty bacon. _________________ Somewhere in Kenya...a village is missing their idiot. |
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fatirishman53 Newbie

Joined: 15 Jun 2010 Posts: 92 Location: Wichita, KS
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Posted: Oct 01 2010 Post subject: |
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I'm probably lighting a fire here, but I always notice a difference with the quality of meat. For about a minimal increase in cost, I make sure to get USDA Choice or CAB. I figure I'm spending at least 12 hours on the darn thing, might as well chuck out a few more bucks for a better quality piece of meat. I have never regretted this decision. The result is noticeably more tender and moist.
Though, there are those who are much more experienced than I that can turn a turd into gold.  |
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BluDawg BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 30 Jul 2009 Posts: 2071 Location: Jonesboro,Tx.
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Posted: Oct 11 2010 Post subject: |
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I buy the least expensive packer brisket I can find of the highest quality available where I shop:USDA Select, it is all they carry.
I remove the plug and trim the cap to 1/4" Rubbed with Worcestershire, K salt, black pepper, coffee and brown sugar. Cooked over Mesquite in a NO FOIL ZONE, however I do cook it in an aluninum pan at 230-240 deg. Foil over the pan at the end of the cook , rest in a cooler about 1 hr before slicing. de fat the juices and pour over the slices placed back in the same pan. Always moist and as tender as yo Momma's luv! _________________ Never met a cow that I didn't like with a little salt and pepper.
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RollinontheRvr BBQ Pro

Joined: 03 Oct 2010 Posts: 641 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Oct 13 2010 Post subject: Mine turned out great - man was that a surprise!!! |
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I did a cookout for work last week and it turned out fabulously. I did a 3 hour pre-cook the night before then wrapped it and iced it down to cool it off quick. The next morning it was on the grill at about 6:30 and cooked for about 7 hours until it hit 160°. At that point I foiled it and let it cook for another hour and 20 minutes until it hit 190° exactly.
My prep was to cross cut the fat cap to the meat which was about 1/4" thick and then inject it with a Jamaican marinade I found here at the smoke ring. Thanks by the way to whomever posted that recipe. I also rubbed it with brown sugar, kosher salt (3/1), onion powder, garlic, & fresh ground black pepper. I kinda wish I had held off on the rub, the bark turned black like it was burnt and was hard to cut through. The meat though was super moist and cut like butter. Surprisingly enough though, the guys still wanted the burnt looking bark. Go figure huh?
When I cut it I cut it across the grain and not with it like I did on my first two. That made a huge difference in the tenderness.
I am not trying to brag here just share my experience with you. I have cooked three brisket's so far, my first two sucked bad. Thanks to folks here my third one turned out really good. Keep trying different things, you will get the hang of it. Good luck to you.
Sorry I don't have any pic's to show. The guy with the camera was using film not digital... _________________ UDS
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SVonhof BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 03 Sep 2010 Posts: 1420 Location: Central Valley, Ca
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Posted: Oct 13 2010 Post subject: Re: Mine turned out great - man was that a surprise!!! |
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| RollinontheRvr wrote: | My prep was to cross cut the fat cap to the meat which was about 1/4" thick and then inject it with a Jamaican marinade I found here at the smoke ring. Thanks by the way to whomever posted that recipe. I also rubbed it with brown sugar, kosher salt (3/1), onion powder, garlic, & fresh ground black pepper. I kinda wish I had held off on the rub, the bark turned black like it was burnt and was hard to cut through. The meat though was super moist and cut like butter. Surprisingly enough though, the guys still wanted the burnt looking bark. Go figure huh?
When I cut it I cut it across the grain and not with it like I did on my first two. That made a huge difference in the tenderness. |
Sounds like a nice comeback from the two bad briskets! And BTW, I would be asking for the pieces with all the bark as well! Black bark doesn't mean burnt, it means flavor! _________________ Scott V.
My BBQ's: Weber Silver B (grill), -UDS-, MUDS/Weber Smokey Joe |
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RollinontheRvr BBQ Pro

Joined: 03 Oct 2010 Posts: 641 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Oct 16 2010 Post subject: Re: Mine turned out great - man was that a surprise!!! |
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| SVonhof wrote: | | Sounds like a nice comeback from the two bad briskets! And BTW, I would be asking for the pieces with all the bark as well! Black bark doesn't mean burnt, it means flavor! |
Thanks, the guys at work sure liked it. I will save you some bark!!! _________________ UDS
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