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BigQ Newbie

Joined: 27 Mar 2010 Posts: 31 Location: NW TN
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Posted: Apr 13 2010 Post subject: Wholesale BBQ |
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Hopefully this isn't a stupid question and won't get ripped to shreds, but I don't know the answer...and that's why I'm asking
I know of one convenience store in my area that smokes their own bbq for sale out of their deli/hot foods counter. Most others do not offer bbq, I'm guessing due to time/equipment/resource issues. Do any of you sell to convenience stores (or even restaurants I guess) wholesale for them to resell to the public?
The immediate concern that comes to mind is the safe handling of the bbq. How could the c-store handle the meat to ensure the safety of the meat? What are other issues or concerns?
Thanks in advance,
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Harry Nutczak BBQ All Star

Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 8558 Location: The Northwoods
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Posted: Apr 13 2010 Post subject: |
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To do something like that, you would need some major league permiting, and probably even and "EST. number, (the little number in a circle you see on packaged food products at the store) and daily inspections for a state meat processing plant inspector.
The health department and possibly the department of agriculture would need to be involved in licensing and daily inspections. _________________ Just remember that the toes you may step on during your climb to the top will also be attached to the a$$es you'll be forced to kiss on your way back down! |
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BigQ Newbie

Joined: 27 Mar 2010 Posts: 31 Location: NW TN
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Posted: Apr 13 2010 Post subject: |
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Harry,
Thanks for the quick reply.
I don't guess it would matter if the meat was delivered right off the smoker....well above 140 degrees?
Thanks again,
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SoEzzy BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 13183 Location: SLC, UT
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Posted: Apr 13 2010 Post subject: |
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Other than the ability to sell a large amount to a single customer, who then has difficulties predicting sales and so making it viable, if you have large grocers in your area and you are licensed by the HD for road side vending, perhaps you could approach the store about setting up in their parking lot, on Fridays / the weekend?
That way you are your own boss, you cook as much or as little as you want, and when it's sold you go home. _________________ Here's a change Robert.
I still work here! |
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BigQ Newbie

Joined: 27 Mar 2010 Posts: 31 Location: NW TN
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Posted: Apr 13 2010 Post subject: |
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SoEzzy,
That would definitely be an option...
What I was thinking with my question was how appealing fresh smoked Q would be to convenience stores to sell along side their burritos, corn dogs and chicken on a stick! If I went into a store and had my choice of the four, I'd take the Q everytime.
I was just thinking of this as a possible revenue stream in addition to any vending or catering.
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SoEzzy BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 13183 Location: SLC, UT
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Posted: Apr 14 2010 Post subject: |
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I'd also take the Q every now and then too!
But the trouble really builds with the HD & Dept Ag having to be involved when you make a third party the middle man of any food transaction.
It helps keep the attorneys off your back and protect the customer, but my understanding is that the initial supplier foots the bill for the on site inspector every day you do business and cook / prepare food.
In my book that's another wage added to the cost side and instead of being a revenue stream, it's a revenue drain!
If I'm wrong, I hope someone will tell us that the cost is born by someone else? _________________ Here's a change Robert.
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Texman BBQ Pro
Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 831 Location: Del Rio, TX
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Posted: Apr 14 2010 Post subject: |
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Big O you have broad based marketing thinking when you said “C-Stores” with emphasis on the “s” – i.e. multiple stores, rather than a single location. Your thought path is economics of scale and a good one.
Health issues vary from Local, State and Feds. It might be wise on your part to talk to your local Health Dept. to get some thoughts and direction from them.
We are more familiar with the Feds in one section of our business, lots of requirements but well worth the oversight and regulations. |
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BigQ Newbie

Joined: 27 Mar 2010 Posts: 31 Location: NW TN
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Posted: Apr 14 2010 Post subject: |
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Texman,
You are right that I was thinking in terms of multiple stores. While I might want to begin with a "test" store...the ultimate goal would be to sell to many stores.
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daddywoofdawg BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 3892 Location: Starkweather,ND
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Posted: Apr 14 2010 Post subject: |
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I belive the dept of AG handles cooked meats.You might want to call or email them your questions and how and what you would need to do. _________________ Good BBQ is all smoke and beers!
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BigQ Newbie

Joined: 27 Mar 2010 Posts: 31 Location: NW TN
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Posted: Apr 15 2010 Post subject: |
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Thanks for the input guys. I've already talked to the HD about a couple of other things, but I forgot to run this scenario by them. I give them a call back and get some guidance from them.
Thanks again!
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SmokinOkie BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 2078
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Posted: Apr 15 2010 Post subject: |
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| BigQ wrote: | SoEzzy,
... If I went into a store and had my choice of the four, I'd take the Q everytime...BigQ |
It depends. If it looks like the Q in the deli's around here, I wouldn't choose any of the 4.
The issue for me is appearance. It just looks dried out and depending on the deli, if they don't know how to take care of it, how long is it sitting there before sold.
HD does get involved inside the store, but I'm told by a local guy he falls under the store/deli per their H/D cert. |
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Pit Boss BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 04 Sep 2008 Posts: 2362 Location: Mt. Pleasant, South Carolina
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Posted: Apr 16 2010 Post subject: |
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[quote="SmokinOkie"] | BigQ wrote: | | HD does get involved inside the store, but I'm told by a local guy he falls under the store/deli per their H/D cert. |
He would only fall under the store's H/D cert. if he works inside said store. If he's selling to the store and cooking offsite, he certainly is not using the store's H/D cert. The store may very well be listed as his commissary, but that only goes so far. _________________ Somewhere in Kenya...a village is missing their idiot. |
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Tantor Newbie
Joined: 13 Dec 2009 Posts: 30
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Posted: Apr 18 2010 Post subject: |
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| There's a Q joint in Paducah, Ky that has expanded their empire to includ product for c-stores and groceries. I don't know how the cook and package at the cooker. They do wholesale 1# packages of PP and BBQ Baloney. I've eaten the product at some mom and pop c-stores and, while it's not fresh-off-the-cooker Q, it ain't bad. It's all vacuum packed and ready to go. |
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