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SigSauerNY BBQ Fan

Joined: 14 Feb 2010 Posts: 306 Location: Woodmere, NY
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Posted: Feb 24 2010 Post subject: I got my first tank - trailer tomorrow and then we start.... |
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77" around and 85" long
what do I do now?
I am thinking of either tuning plates or reverse flow if you think I have enough space, also do you think I can put two sets of double shelves in there - anyone with any dimension skills or who can guide me what to tell my welder and fabricator would be sweet!
Ill keep em coming _________________ Proud Member of Team Ranstad
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k.a.m. BBQ Mega Star

Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 26020 Location: Southeast Texas.
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Posted: Feb 24 2010 Post subject: |
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SigSauerNY, your tank is right at 24.5'' in diam. With that length and diam. I think she would be a good candidate for either tuning plates or a reverse flow. _________________ Always remember slow and steady wins the race.
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SigSauerNY BBQ Fan

Joined: 14 Feb 2010 Posts: 306 Location: Woodmere, NY
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Posted: Feb 24 2010 Post subject: |
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| k.a.m. wrote: | | SigSauerNY, your tank is right at 24.5'' in diam. With that length and diam. I think she would be a good candidate for either tuning plates or a reverse flow. |
what do you think is better for competition cooking - and some larger style catering - I am in between _________________ Proud Member of Team Ranstad
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k.a.m. BBQ Mega Star

Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 26020 Location: Southeast Texas.
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SigSauerNY, I will be honest with you. Either one will do great at comps or catering. I am building an R/F right now and when I finish it I am gathering materials for Mrs.K.A.M.'s and mine comp cooker. It is going to be a straight forward cooker with tuning plates, nothing fancy. I believe once you learn your cooker it matters not what you cook on. _________________ Always remember slow and steady wins the race.
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SigSauerNY BBQ Fan

Joined: 14 Feb 2010 Posts: 306 Location: Woodmere, NY
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Posted: Feb 24 2010 Post subject: |
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| k.a.m. wrote: | | SigSauerNY, I will be honest with you. Either one will do great at comps or catering. I am building an R/F right now and when I finish it I am gathering materials for Mrs.K.A.M.'s and mine comp cooker. It is going to be a straight forward cooker with tuning plates, nothing fancy. I believe once you learn your cooker it matters not what you cook on. |
any info on how many and spacing - also thickness of steel? _________________ Proud Member of Team Ranstad
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seattlepitboss BBQ Pro
Joined: 28 Oct 2008 Posts: 573 Location: Seattle, Washington
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Posted: Feb 24 2010 Post subject: |
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Great score! What did you have to pay for the tank? I got a 24x70" horizontal air tank recently. Its nameplate says it is a 120 gallon tank. Assuming yours has the same shape end bells (a rough assumption, they probably aren't) yours has about the volume of a 24x15" cylinder more than 120 gallons. Let's see .. that's about 6786 cubic inches, or about an additional 30 gallons. My guess is you scored a 150 gallon air tank. This volume may be useful to you when you use the calculator to figure out your firebox size, etc.
FYI I'm planning to make two rows of cooking grates, one 3" above
center and one 3" below center. The racks will be able to be over 22" wide, which is wide enough to hold a whole rack of ribs sideways which is what I wanted.
I encourage you to keep posting your questions and pix of your progress. I wound up buying a 4x8' flatbed trailer which is legally licensed in my state (Washington) because it was cheap ($250) and because I'd planned to title the thing anyway (it's the law here) and it can be a real hassle to title a homebuilt in this state.
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SigSauerNY BBQ Fan

Joined: 14 Feb 2010 Posts: 306 Location: Woodmere, NY
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Posted: Feb 24 2010 Post subject: |
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| seattlepitboss wrote: | Great score! What did you have to pay for the tank? I got a 24x70" horizontal air tank recently. Its nameplate says it is a 120 gallon tank. Assuming yours has the same shape end bells (a rough assumption, they probably aren't) yours has about the volume of a 24x15" cylinder more than 120 gallons. Let's see .. that's about 6786 cubic inches, or about an additional 30 gallons. My guess is you scored a 150 gallon air tank. This volume may be useful to you when you use the calculator to figure out your firebox size, etc.
FYI I'm planning to make two rows of cooking grates, one 3" above
center and one 3" below center. The racks will be able to be over 22" wide, which is wide enough to hold a whole rack of ribs sideways which is what I wanted.
I encourage you to keep posting your questions and pix of your progress. I wound up buying a 4x8' flatbed trailer which is legally licensed in my state (Washington) because it was cheap ($250) and because I'd planned to title the thing anyway (it's the law here) and it can be a real hassle to title a homebuilt in this state.
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$60 bucks and I know nothing from the dimension aspect which is why I am here.
I am a chef and handy and have friends who are welders and fabricaters etc - so as long as I can get some type of specs for them they will build it.
I was told its bigger than 120 and I am assuming the 150 is on the money.
Im gonna do tuning plates and need to figure out a firebox size and thickness and then stacks - kind of makes you feel like I went to far into the woods lol with a welder and some steel lol _________________ Proud Member of Team Ranstad
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k.a.m. BBQ Mega Star

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SigSauerNY, I would use 1/4'' plate on my tuning plates, as far as how many that is a guess. I would measure out my rail distance and build enough plates to almost cover the distance. You can always stack them if you do not need one or two. I ran your tank dim on the calculator and this should get you started.
Tank/ 24'' x 85'' 12811.20 Cu. in.
If you go with a 24'' x 24'' x24'' box it will be slightly larger than needed at 13824.00 Cu.in.
You will need691.20 Cu. in. of stack, a 6'' stack would need to be around 25''
Fire box intake should be a minimum of 41.47 Sq. in. ( I would use at least 1/4'' plate on the fire box)
Fire box to cooking chamber should be around 110.59 Sq. in.
These are just guide lines to help you along the way. I look forward to following your progress. _________________ Always remember slow and steady wins the race.
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SigSauerNY BBQ Fan

Joined: 14 Feb 2010 Posts: 306 Location: Woodmere, NY
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awesome
so I was thinking of getting a smaller 30 gallon tank or something to use as a fire box, if not I will make one.
so what thickness would be perfect for the firebox - I have access to 1/4 and better and thethe box interior dimensions would need to be 24"x24"x24" with the entry to the tank being 110.59" sq - and intake being 41.47" sq
I am not great at the square inches part but I am sure someone here can figure it out cause I am getting my wood today and briskets end of week.
thanks for your help and I will keep em coming....... _________________ Proud Member of Team Ranstad
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k.a.m. BBQ Mega Star

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SigSauerNY, I would use at least 1/4'' plate on my fire box. _________________ Always remember slow and steady wins the race.
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Alien BBQ BBQ All Star

Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 5426 Location: Roswell, New Mexico
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Posted: Feb 25 2010 Post subject: |
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If you have the skills then this would be my comp cooker.
Insulated square firebox
Oven on top
Warmer mounted over cooker section
Reverse flow smoker
Dual Exhaust
Charcoal Grill on backside with work area
All of these can be ran and controlled from the heat coming from the firebox with the exception of the grill. Using the blower you can split off bleed air from the smoker and run a portion of it across your grill (to fan the fire) to be able to cook at high searing temps
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SigSauerNY BBQ Fan

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any chance you have any dimensions? _________________ Proud Member of Team Ranstad
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Alien BBQ BBQ All Star

Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 5426 Location: Roswell, New Mexico
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Posted: Feb 25 2010 Post subject: |
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24x24x24 on the firebox
Do the oven to 24x24x18 tall
The warmer to fit on the piece you already have welded
The grill is up to you but I have found 20 inches deep to be plenty to keep from having to reach too far over the hot coals. Don't forget a warming rack on the back side of the grill.
Twin 6 inch stacks on the cooker** instead of placing them side by side horizontally (like I have drawn), place them side by side vertically with one inlet at the base rack level and the second at the next rack level. This will allow you more control over the heat in the cooker. _________________ https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaeloberry |
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daddywoofdawg BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 3892 Location: Starkweather,ND
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Posted: Feb 26 2010 Post subject: |
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| Alien BBQ wrote: | If you have the skills then this would be my comp cooker.
Insulated square firebox
Oven on top
Warmer mounted over cooker section
Reverse flow smoker
Dual Exhaust
Charcoal Grill on backside with work area
All of these can be ran and controlled from the heat coming from the firebox with the exception of the grill. Using the blower you can split off bleed air from the smoker and run a portion of it across your grill (to fan the fire) to be able to cook at high searing temps
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Just wondering as I haven't seen it done this way;would the warmer get enough heat to matter?how would it heat ?though vents or... _________________ Good BBQ is all smoke and beers!
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SigSauerNY BBQ Fan

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Posted: Feb 26 2010 Post subject: |
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can someone confirm stack info - I finally found a place that has 6" pipe just need lengths confirmed, thanks _________________ Proud Member of Team Ranstad
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SigSauerNY BBQ Fan

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Posted: Mar 02 2010 Post subject: |
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hopefully will be able to pick up tank tomorrow, weather has been slowing things down.
I was thinking of putting a propane burner in the firebox to help maintain temps where can I get a burner that would work on a thermometer or such.
would any old propane wok type burner on ebay work = also what would help maintain those temps - would something like the digiq do that (up and down)? _________________ Proud Member of Team Ranstad
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