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I am a GT fan and I have to give the Dogs props for beating us. They came out and ran the ball up and down the field. Good job on the win.
That being said. I love how all the Georgia fans were talking during the week leading up to the game about how this game wasn't a rivalry and didn't mean anything. But now that you won it is all I am hearing about.  |
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It's only a rivalry when Tech wins a game or two every tenth or eleventh year. You get all blown up until you have to be reminded that you are a second rate program in a second rate conference.
Kind of like how UGA is with Florida (absent the conference part). That's a painful admission, but an honest one. Tech fans always think any victory in the series is a new revival of their ability to beat the Dawgs. Once you have a .400 record over a 10 year period, then we'll have a real rivalry again.
BTW, Since 1991, UGA is 15-4 against Tech and 16-3 against Vandy, so at least you have that on the SEC.
Does it say anything about the conferences that the Peach (I refuse to call it the Chik Fil A) gets the first ACC pick after the BCS and the fifth from the SEC?
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| csmith15 wrote: | I am a GT fan and I have to give the Dogs props for beating us. They came out and ran the ball up and down the field. Good job on the win.
That being said. I love how all the Georgia fans were talking during the week leading up to the game about how this game wasn't a rivalry and didn't mean anything. But now that you won it is all I am hearing about. |
I didnt hear any UGA fans saying that it didnt mean anything or that it wasnt a rivalry...I heard a lot of dawgs saying that it was going to take a perfect game and the results might turn out in our favor, but nothing about the game not meaning anything..
now I did see your coach said that the game didnt mean anything and that UGA hasnt done anything since 1980, but win 22 times against GT and 4 SEC Championship...along with having a #1 draft pick, several top 5 finishes and even more top 15 finishes... |
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csmith15
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I never said anything about the ACC being better than the SEC. Not really sure why you brought that up.
GT is a 2nd rate program? Georgia went from preseason #1 at the start of last year to being unranked now and giving their coach a gatorade bath after beating a "2nd rate progam" in a game that "doesn't matter". What does that say about the state of your program? |
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| csmith15 wrote: | I never said anything about the ACC being better than the SEC. Not really sure why you brought that up.
GT is a 2nd rate program? Georgia went from preseason #1 at the start of last year to being unranked now and giving their coach a gatorade bath after beating a "2nd rate progam" in a game that "doesn't matter". What does that say about the state of your program? |
Good Lord, you make this so easy. It's almost like calling the mentally handicapped kid for double dribble, it's just not sporting.
I bring the ACC vs SEC up b/c it's the theme of the thread.
UGA went 10-3 last year and were considered a huge disappintment. Their losses were to the eventual national champion, the #4 in the final BCS ranking and Tech. People are calling for heads to roll at 7-5 this season
Tech is 10-2 so far, has lost to a 6-5 team and # 17 in the BCS and this is considered an exceptional season. In case you're curious, Tech's records in Bowl games since 1999 is 3-6. Their wins came in the Champs, Humaitarian and Seattle Bowls over Syracuse, Tulsa and Stanford. Their losses came in the Chick-fil-A, Humanitarian, Gator, Emerald, Silicon Valley and Peach Bowls. Of the major bowls in which they played, they were defeated by a total score of 104-52 (it's only that close because you had a 3 pt loss to WV in the 06 Gator, otherwise you were defeated 66-17).
Are you sure Tech wants to compete in a major bowl? They haven't been kind to you. You might want to continue to play in the much smaller fishbowl of the ACC. Tech doesn't seem to be able to swim with the sharks.
I stand by my assessment of a second rate program in a second rate conference.
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| csmith15 wrote: | I never said anything about the ACC being better than the SEC. Not really sure why you brought that up.
GT is a 2nd rate program? Georgia went from preseason #1 at the start of last year to being unranked now and giving their coach a gatorade bath after beating a "2nd rate progam" in a game that "doesn't matter". What does that say about the state of your program? |
It says that regardless of our current situation we love beating the nerds. Lucky for us we get to feel that satisfaction about 8-9 times every decade... |
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| Poppa's PTL Club wrote: | | I stand by my assessment of a second rate program in a second rate conference. |
So why all the chest-thumping about beating a second rate team in a second rate conference? I would have thought your sights would be set a little higher than that. 
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| allsmokenofire wrote: | | So why all the chest-thumping about beating a second rate team in a second rate conference? I would have thought your sights would be set a little higher than that. |
The whole point is to remind them that they are second rate and will be for the forseeable future.
10-3 was a disappointment for UGA and 7-5 (even beating Tech) is an embarrassment. 10-2 is an 18 year high for Tech and they still can't beat UGA. 7-5 and losing to UGA is about what you come to expect at Tech. Second rate team, second rate conference.
The Big 12 puts up worthy opponents (as long as Oklahoma doesn't make it), but I think it's time we petitioned the BCS to remove the Big East and ACC champions' automatic BCS bids.
Poor Boise State is proving that they are more worthy of an automatic bid than the sad sack champs of these two pitiful conferences. Boise won their BCS game (remember?) 
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(People are calling for heads to roll at 7-5 this season.)
I do believe I heard that 3 of your defense coaches were fired today.
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| Go Broncos!!!!!!! We hoping to crash the party this year as well!! |
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| Mike Lawry wrote: | (People are calling for heads to roll at 7-5 this season.)
I do believe I heard that 3 of your defense coaches were fired today.
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Yep lost the DC, DE coach, and the LB coach. Hate it for those guys and their families, but the program was getting stale and the defense wasnt getting better. I hope that they land on their feet. |
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One of my best friends is from La. and is a huge SEC first LSU second fan. We have this discussion all the time because my team is in his opinion second rate from a not worthy conference, even though we are tied at 1 and 1 with his team. I guess everyone not from the SEC should start playing against local high school teams. But maybe if the predictions are right we will get to see how two second rate teams stack up in the PEACH BOWL VT vs.GA  |
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| Rare Breed wrote: | | I guess everyone not from the SEC should start playing against local high school teams. |
Many high school teams are already scheduled by SEC teams to fill their non-conference schedule. 
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Where did everybody go, this looked like it was just getting fun when I found it, now everybody is gone  |
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Mike Lawry
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| allsmokenofire wrote: | | Rare Breed wrote: | | I guess everyone not from the SEC should start playing against local high school teams. |
Many high school teams are already scheduled by SEC teams to fill their non-conference schedule.
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Yep. Not many SEC teams like to start out 0-1 and looze there starting quarterback right out of the gate.
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA.
Ill also add the college football strength of schedule rankings top 20. The SEC looks pretty tough to me.
1 Auburn (6-5) 38.0 21 1 93
2 Miss State (4-7) 37.7 1 1 56
3 Arkansas (6-5) 37.6 24 2 60
4 LSU (9-3) 37.3 7 2 63
5 Alabama (11-0) 37.3 9 3 40
6 S Carolina (6-5) 37.2 5 5 68
7 Mississippi (6-4) 36.9 6 6 87
8 Georgia (6-5) 36.8 28 5 55
9 Tennessee (7-5) 34.1 36 9 105
10 Kentucky (6-5) 33.9 42 7 108
11 Oklahoma (6-5) 33.6 4 1 73
12 Florida (11-0) 33.2 38 2 78
13 Vanderbilt (1-10) 32.8 34 9 113
14 Baylor (3- 32.6 23 5 77
15 Florida St (5-6) 32.3 15 2 24
16 Oklahoma St (8-3) 32.1 31 6 106
17 Clemson (7-4) 32.1 18 1 67
18 Oregon (10-2) 32.1 26 1 45
19 Oregon St (7-4) 31.7 41 6 43
20 GA Tech (9-2)
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| Mike Lawry wrote: | | allsmokenofire wrote: | | Rare Breed wrote: | | I guess everyone not from the SEC should start playing against local high school teams. |
Many high school teams are already scheduled by SEC teams to fill their non-conference schedule.
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Yep. Not many SEC teams like to start out 0-1 and looze there starting quarterback right out of the gate.
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA.
Ill also add the college football strength of schedule rankings top 20. The SEC looks pretty tough to me.
1 Auburn (6-5) 38.0 21 1 93
2 Miss State (4-7) 37.7 1 1 56
3 Arkansas (6-5) 37.6 24 2 60
4 LSU (9-3) 37.3 7 2 63
5 Alabama (11-0) 37.3 9 3 40
6 S Carolina (6-5) 37.2 5 5 68
7 Mississippi (6-4) 36.9 6 6 87
8 Georgia (6-5) 36.8 28 5 55
9 Tennessee (7-5) 34.1 36 9 105
10 Kentucky (6-5) 33.9 42 7 108
11 Oklahoma (6-5) 33.6 4 1 73
12 Florida (11-0) 33.2 38 2 78
13 Vanderbilt (1-10) 32.8 34 9 113
14 Baylor (3- 32.6 23 5 77
15 Florida St (5-6) 32.3 15 2 24
16 Oklahoma St (8-3) 32.1 31 6 106
17 Clemson (7-4) 32.1 18 1 67
18 Oregon (10-2) 32.1 26 1 45
19 Oregon St (7-4) 31.7 41 6 43
20 GA Tech (9-2)
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Yep....and none of that comes from the ooc games they schedule.
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35 Texas
44 Notre Dame
48 Nebraska
49 Missouri
71 TX Christian
Just a few more schedule rankings.
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| allsmokenofire wrote: |
Yep....and none of that comes from the ooc games they schedule. |
Again, I'm not sure that this is so complicated that you shouldn't be able to get it, but the SEC in conference schedule is tough enough. I like that they go outside for a game or two, but the SEC schedule is plenty tough if they scheduled nothing but BYU, Idaho State and Tulsa instead of Arizona State, Oklahoma State and Georgia Tech.
The Big 12 is a good conference, but I don't know why you can't accept that the SEC is just better right now. It hasn't always been that way and it won't likely last forever, but for now, it takes a herculean effort to deny it.
That or really foolish jealousy. Take your pick.
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| Poppa's PTL Club wrote: | | allsmokenofire wrote: |
Yep....and none of that comes from the ooc games they schedule. |
Again, I'm not sure that this is so complicated that you shouldn't be able to get it, but the SEC in conference schedule is tough enough. I like that they go outside for a game or two, but the SEC schedule is plenty tough if they scheduled nothing but BYU, Idaho State and Tulsa instead of Arizona State, Oklahoma State and Georgia Tech.
The Big 12 is a good conference, but I don't know why you can't accept that the SEC is just better right now. It hasn't always been that way and it won't likely last forever, but for now, it takes a herculean effort to deny it.
That or really foolish jealousy. Take your pick. |
You seem to have a hard time distinguishing between the SEC and the Bulldogs. You try to make arguments for the whole conference using one team as an example, and then make arguments for your team using the whole conference as an example. That's the mentality that I "don't get". You act as if your team is synonymous with the conference, when, in fact, they are not.
BTW, Florida's steady diet of cupcakes out of conference didn't do them any favors tonight. Hard to tune up for a game against Alabama by playing Charleston Southern, Troy, and Florida International.
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| allsmokenofire wrote: | You seem to have a hard time distinguishing between the SEC and the Bulldogs. You try to make arguments for the whole conference using one team as an example, and then make arguments for your team using the whole conference as an example. That's the mentality that I "don't get". You act as if your team is synonymous with the conference, when, in fact, they are not.
BTW, Florida's steady diet of cupcakes out of conference didn't do them any favors tonight. Hard to tune up for a game against Alabama by playing Charleston Southern, Troy, and Florida International. |
OK let's get it straight that I'm calling you out with those records b/c you challenged me to use my team and I picked Oklahoma as a contrast. That's almost not fair to the Big 12, but I digress.
You want to talk conferences? Let's make a list:
The SEC has won 5 BCS championships vs 2 for the Big 12.
The SEC has never lost a BCS championship game, the Big 12 has lost 4.
Two of those SEC championships were over Big 12 teams.
In BCS Bowl history overall, the SEC is 12-9, the Big 12 is 7-10.
In BCS bowl games vs non-major BCS opponents, the SEC is 1-1 and the Big 12 is 0-1 (I'll let you figure those two out) (I had to correct this, I forgot about Bama's loss last year)
In head to head bowl history, the SEC is 20-17 vs the Big 12.
In the past year of all bowls, the SEC was 6-2 and the Big 12 was 4-3.
In the prior year's bowls the respective conferences' records were 7-2 for the SEC vs 5-3 for the Big 12.
Listen, you can deny all you want, but every number backs up the fact that over the past several years, the SEC is the dominant conference. You can talk about cupcake schedules all you want, but when it comes head to head against the best the other conferences have to offer (including the Big 12), the SEC wins.
Do I have to keep proving you wrong or are you willing to say uncle yet?
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