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smokelahoma
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 Posted: Apr 24 2009 Post subject: BUTT TIMES |
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sorry if i'm asking too many newbie questions but..
let's say you are cooking a butt for competition and you are convinced from experience with your smoker that it will take 10 hours. do you start cooking it 10 and a half or eleven hours before? or do you start cooking it like 12 or 13 hours before in case for some reason it takes longer to get your internal temps.
if you cook it too early do you go ahead and pull it while its at 190F and reheat?
thanks for any advice
timing is my biggest goal for this first comp just get the food out on time and i'll be happy. |
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| Posted: Apr 25 2009 Post subject: Re: BUTT TIMES |
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| smokelahoma wrote: | | sorry if i'm asking too many newbie questions but.. |
Don't worry about it! 
We were all newbies once!
http://www.thesmokering.com/forum/search.php this is the search function and http://www.thesmokering.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17425 here's how to get the best out of it. 
| smokelahoma wrote: | | let's say you are cooking a butt for competition and you are convinced from experience with your smoker that it will take 10 hours. do you start cooking it 10 and a half or eleven hours before? or do you start cooking it like 12 or 13 hours before in case for some reason it takes longer to get your internal temps. |
Most competition teams, cook to just below the temperature they really want, (by 5 degrees or a little more, and the cooking will carry the temperature to where they want it), then double wrap in foil, and put it in a cooler, (hotter), for anything up to 3 or 4 hours surrounded by towels to reduce the heat loss
| smokelahoma wrote: | | if you cook it too early do you go ahead and pull it while its at 190F and reheat? |
If you follow the idea above, you don't pull it early, you also may want to take it a little higher on temperature, somewhere around the 200 F mark, but not to the point of being over cooked.
When you have turned in the chicken and the ribs, you still have time to pull your pork and prep your box for the pork turn in.
| smokelahoma wrote: | thanks for any advice
timing is my biggest goal for this first comp just get the food out on time and i'll be happy. |
You can use a similar technique with you brisket too, cooked once tastes much better IMO than cooked and reheated!
Read some, ask some, learn some, practice some, then come back and do it all over again!
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smokelahoma
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| this helps a lot thanks |
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SmokinOkie
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| Posted: Apr 25 2009 Post subject: Re: BUTT TIMES |
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| smokelahoma wrote: | ...
timing is my biggest goal for this first comp just get the food out on time and i'll be happy. |
Do NOT wait until your first comp to figure out timing. trust me, there will be enough other things going on.
For butts and briskets, you should know your times. Cook them a little early or a lot early, they'll hold just fine if they're done early, if you're late, you can't spend them up very easily.
Do a practice run in your driveway. Do EVERY thing in the driveway, if you have to go into the house for something write it down.
Use the KCBS times for practice and see how you do, even try to build your own boxes and make some turnins. You will need practice building boxes, don't wait for that day.
The time on saturday, from about 7 am to last turnin flys by.
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SmokinOkie:
That is a great idea you gave about trying a practice run in your driveway and noting all items that were needed from the house. I'm getting ready for my first comp in a few months and will definitely take your advice.
Thanks. |
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rgwiazdzinski
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| when you do your driveway run invite all your friends and neighbors and have a them bring a side and have yourself a party. you may get lucky and find some sucker in the group willing to stay up with you all night at your first comp!! i found out that you really need an extra body or to to help run your turn ins, fix your boxs and tend your fire. |
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SmokinOkie
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| rgwiazdzinski wrote: | | when you do your driveway run invite all your friends and neighbors and have a them bring a side and have yourself a party. |
Having a party is a sure way to lose at your first contest, you'll spend more time having fun than the reason you spent money, to compete.
Your friends are happy to show up, eat your food (which won't be ready until Saturday so you have to cook Friday while you're prepping) and they're drink all your booze and do NONE of the work
Skip the party in the driveway, they won't be there when you compete. |
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NaughtyNurse
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| Posted: Apr 27 2009 Post subject: Re: BUTT TIMES |
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| SmokinOkie wrote: | ......
The time on saturday, from about 7 am to last turnin flys by.
Smokin' |
Expecially if you participate in the 8am shots
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rgwiazdzinski
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| SmokinOkie wrote: | | rgwiazdzinski wrote: | | when you do your driveway run invite all your friends and neighbors and have a them bring a side and have yourself a party. |
Having a party is a sure way to lose at your first contest, you'll spend more time having fun than the reason you spent money, to compete.
Your friends are happy to show up, eat your food (which won't be ready until Saturday so you have to cook Friday while you're prepping) and they're drink all your booze and do NONE of the work
Skip the party in the driveway, they won't be there when you compete. |
not true, that is how i did my practice run before my first contest i just invited everyone over an hour before i felt like everything would be done and it worked out perfectly. i finshed tied for 8th in pork and 21st out of 39 teams overall at my first comp, and got a volunteer to come cook with me |
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I have to agree with Smokin on the party issue. I think it is fine to have friends come over but don't invite them over until an hour after the last turn in.Yes it is great to have a runner but a neophyte can ruin your fire. Ask me how I know.  | rgwiazdzinski wrote: | | SmokinOkie wrote: | | rgwiazdzinski wrote: | | when you do your driveway run invite all your friends and neighbors and have a them bring a side and have yourself a party. |
Having a party is a sure way to lose at your first contest, you'll spend more time having fun than the reason you spent money, to compete.
Your friends are happy to show up, eat your food (which won't be ready until Saturday so you have to cook Friday while you're prepping) and they're drink all your booze and do NONE of the work
Skip the party in the driveway, they won't be there when you compete. |
not true, that is how i did my practice run before my first contest i just invited everyone over an hour before i felt like everything would be done and it worked out perfectly. i finshed tied for 8th in pork and 21st out of 39 teams overall at my first comp, and got a volunteer to come cook with me |
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Jeff Hughes
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| rgwiazdzinski wrote: | | SmokinOkie wrote: | | rgwiazdzinski wrote: | | when you do your driveway run invite all your friends and neighbors and have a them bring a side and have yourself a party. |
Having a party is a sure way to lose at your first contest, you'll spend more time having fun than the reason you spent money, to compete.
Your friends are happy to show up, eat your food (which won't be ready until Saturday so you have to cook Friday while you're prepping) and they're drink all your booze and do NONE of the work
Skip the party in the driveway, they won't be there when you compete. |
not true, that is how i did my practice run before my first contest i just invited everyone over an hour before i felt like everything would be done and it worked out perfectly. i finshed tied for 8th in pork and 21st out of 39 teams overall at my first comp, and got a volunteer to come cook with me |
Well good for you...
Russ(Smokin Okie) is giving correct advice, the OP would be well advised to follow it...
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EastTennQcrew
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I'm with Smokin.
There are so many things you need to do during a comp, and you really need to focus. Being consistant for one comp to the next is how the best teams win again and again.
There is plenty of time to sit and relax, but there are times when you have to get things done.
Getting the timing down and recorded will go alongs ways to being successful.
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