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Alien BBQ BBQ All Star

Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 5426 Location: Roswell, New Mexico
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Posted: Mar 10 2006 Post subject: Basics of Briskets |
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I have received a lot of emails asking about the different parts of a brisket we talk about on the forum. Here is a quick down and dirty basic brisket layout.
Pictured below is the fat cap we refer to on occasion. This is normally cooked fat side up in the smoker (as shown).
Sometimes you will hear us refer to a brisket flat. Here is a photo of a flat and the point. The flat actually runs from one end to the other, however when most people refer to a flat, they are actually talking about ½ of the brisket. The deckle or point is the fattier section that runs below the flat. To get a nice piece of brisket that you don’t have to chew on to bite through, you will need to cut your brisket against the grain of the meat. Two things you will want to know though. Don’t cut the brisket until after it is cooked and secondly, the deckle or point meat runs the opposite direction of the flat. I like to separate the two after cooking at the fat ridge that separates the two. This is just my choice, how you do it is up to you. I normally use the deckle for chopped brisket, and the flat for sliced brisket, but other people do it differently.
Finally here is the all important smoke ring. It is the red area that forms at temperatures below 140 degrees. After 140 degrees the formation stops but the favor keeps going. Electric smokers have a hard time forming a good smoke ring. I am not saying that they can’t, I have just never seen one do a good job at it.
That is the basics of what we talk about when we talk brisket. There are different techniques out there that will give you different results, but this is a good starting point. _________________ https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaeloberry |
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Big George's BBQ BBQ Fan
Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 110 Location: Harleysville, PA
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Posted: Mar 11 2006 Post subject: |
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Thank you that was very helpful, especially for me who is still trying to learn the ins and outs of smoking. I have only tried one Brisket so far, a flat, and it turned out great. I am going to try to do one this weekend with a Boston Butt for pulled pork. I figure they both should take about 8-10 hours. I pulled the Brisket off at about 190 degrees. Do I want to pull off the Butt at around the same temp. I yhave never tried to cook the cap or the point. How long do they take
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Alien BBQ BBQ All Star

Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 5426 Location: Roswell, New Mexico
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Posted: Mar 11 2006 Post subject: |
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Yes, cook them both to 190 reguardless of how long it takes. The general rule of thumb is 1.5 hr per pound for brisket and 2 hrs per pound for butt @ 225 degrees. Good luck. _________________ https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaeloberry |
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mikekilian1947 BBQ Fan

Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 368 Location: St Louis MO
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Posted: Mar 11 2006 Post subject: |
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Alien
Very nice tutorial. I had wonered when I first came onto the list what the brisket pieces that were being discussed, and pictures and information like this really help! Thank you!
Mike _________________ "I can smell the future." Nostrildomus |
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DawgPhan BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 3444
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Posted: Mar 11 2006 Post subject: |
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| I like to separate my brisket into the 2 different pieces before cooking..I feel like I have better control that way... |
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auto Newbie

Joined: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 60 Location: Dallas, Republic of Texas
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Posted: Mar 11 2006 Post subject: |
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| DawgPhan wrote: | | I like to separate my brisket into the 2 different pieces before cooking..I feel like I have better control that way... |
Why?? My first brisket was a brisket flat and it turned out great through blind luck. Next time I will do a whole brisket and want to know the ins and out.  _________________ That's how we roll |
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SmokinOkie BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 2078
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Posted: Mar 11 2006 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I normally use the deckle for chopped brisket |
Nope, use them to make Burnt Ends. Like eating popcorn. Once you start eating it, you can't stop. |
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roxy BBQ All Star

Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 9331 Location: Wasaga beach, Ontario
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Posted: Mar 11 2006 Post subject: |
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I enjoyed the tip sliced, it made some great sammies even with the extra fat. I want to try the burnt ends, aint had em yet but hear they are real good.
I just find it hard to drop the money on brisket, it is way over double the cost of butt and for egual money I would rather smoke ribs. Not that I aint eaten it enough.
Alien, how did you add the text to the photos..?
I think you did a great job, you could also maybe add a cross section of each part of the brisket to show the texture of the meat.. Just an idea. _________________ Chargriller Akorn
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Alien BBQ BBQ All Star

Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 5426 Location: Roswell, New Mexico
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DawgPhan BBQ Super Pro
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Posted: Mar 12 2006 Post subject: |
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| auto wrote: | | DawgPhan wrote: | | I like to separate my brisket into the 2 different pieces before cooking..I feel like I have better control that way... |
Why?? My first brisket was a brisket flat and it turned out great through blind luck. Next time I will do a whole brisket and want to know the ins and out.  |
Why do I have better control? Because it is basically 2 different pieces of meat. |
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BubbaRib Newbie

Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 70 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Mar 15 2006 Post subject: |
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Lot's of good info here....
Doing my first brisket this weekend for my birthday....
I already have the rub I plan to use for it, but had a few questions.
Would you foil a brisket like you would a butt to finish the cooking process? If so, why???? If not, why????
At what temp would you pull your brisket?
Thanks, for the wealth of info and knowledge of Q here..... Gotta' love this place!!!! |
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DawgPhan BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 3444
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Posted: Mar 15 2006 Post subject: |
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| BubbaRib wrote: | Lot's of good info here....
Doing my first brisket this weekend for my birthday....
I already have the rub I plan to use for it, but had a few questions.
Would you foil a brisket like you would a butt to finish the cooking process? If so, why???? If not, why????
At what temp would you pull your brisket?
Thanks, for the wealth of info and knowledge of Q here..... Gotta' love this place!!!! |
I wouldnt foil anything, so no... |
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allsmokenofire BBQ All Star

Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Posts: 5051 Location: Oklahoma
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Posted: Mar 15 2006 Post subject: |
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| BubbaRib wrote: | Lot's of good info here....
Doing my first brisket this weekend for my birthday....
I already have the rub I plan to use for it, but had a few questions.
Would you foil a brisket like you would a butt to finish the cooking process? If so, why???? If not, why????
At what temp would you pull your brisket?
Thanks, for the wealth of info and knowledge of Q here..... Gotta' love this place!!!! |
Foil?....no, unless it gets done early and you want to hold it in a cooler.
Pull it at 190-195 and let it rest for at least 45 mins under a foil tent(unless its done early and then see above). _________________ Mike
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BradM BBQ Fan
Joined: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 161 Location: Sherman, TX
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Posted: Mar 15 2006 Post subject: |
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| roxy wrote: |
I just find it hard to drop the money on brisket, it is way over double the cost of butt and for egual money I would rather smoke ribs. Not that I aint eaten it enough.
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I feel sorry for you roxy. I was just at the store this weekend and saw brisket for $1.30 a pound. Makes me feel lucky.  |
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roxy BBQ All Star

Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 9331 Location: Wasaga beach, Ontario
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Posted: Mar 16 2006 Post subject: |
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| BradM wrote: | | roxy wrote: |
I just find it hard to drop the money on brisket, it is way over double the cost of butt and for egual money I would rather smoke ribs. Not that I aint eaten it enough.
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I feel sorry for you roxy. I was just at the store this weekend and saw brisket for $1.30 a pound. Makes me feel lucky.  |
Must be nice Brad, If I could get the stuff for that price I'd do it more often. For a decent sized packers it will cost ya 45-50 bucks and thats a mountain of ribs. _________________ Chargriller Akorn
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BradM BBQ Fan
Joined: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 161 Location: Sherman, TX
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Posted: Mar 16 2006 Post subject: |
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mding38926 BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 2244 Location: Lake Ridge, VA
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Posted: Mar 16 2006 Post subject: |
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Bubba Rib -- I also do not foil............I am happy spritzing and just cooking it as long as it takes to get it to 195-200 degrees. _________________ Dinger |
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bigabyte BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 1529 Location: Overland Park, KS
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Posted: Mar 16 2006 Post subject: |
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Damn roxy! 45-50 for a brisket up there???? Must be a Canadian thing. Down here, if I go to the expensive butcher, I'll pay about 25 for a big packer brisket. At Sams Club I'll spend about $20, but it's not as reliably high quality as the butcher is. _________________ --Chris Baker
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mding38926 BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 2244 Location: Lake Ridge, VA
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| WoooDoggy wrote: | Damn roxy! 45-50 for a brisket up there???? Must be a Canadian thing. Down here, if I go to the expensive butcher, I'll pay about 25 for a big packer brisket. At Sams Club I'll spend about $20, but it's not as reliably high quality as the butcher is. |
sounds right here too...........I have been getting smaller (8-10 pounds) packers at Sams for $15 or so. _________________ Dinger |
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sledgehammer03 BBQ Fan

Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 263 Location: Denver, CO
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Posted: Mar 16 2006 Post subject: |
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| They are advertised on sale at Safeway for $5/lb. Holy Smokes, even a little 1 is $50, guess it is more chicken. Safeway also has Butts on sale for $2/lb ouch. |
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