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Pit Boss
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PostPosted: Mar 27 2009    Post subject: Well, I gone and done it... Reply with quote

Ordered my CTO this morning...supposed to take possession of the property next week. Am I a fool or what?
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PostPosted: Mar 27 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope not a fool...well I hope you're not a fool.

If Harry's right and any moron can make a living catering, I wonder what word he'll choose for restaurant owner operators? Wink Laughing Wink

Good luck, update us please when you find time!
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PostPosted: Mar 28 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good Luck Jay
with your background in the restaurant business I am sure you have done your homework before pulling the trigger so u will be fine

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PostPosted: Mar 28 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay,

I'm feeling the urge to make my annual trip to the Isle of Palms. Get er smoking and I'll stop by and write a huge review on how great your que was! I'll take a nice heaping of pork, brisket and ribs, some beans, a litte slaw (sweet slaw that is) and some sweet tea!

Can you handle that order?

I like the CTO. I've cooked on one for comps before. nice litte units and OH is a great company!

Best of luck and keep us posted (with photos of course)!
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PostPosted: Mar 28 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks SoEzzy, Mr. Herman, & CarolinaQ.

I've used OH pits before. That past experience along with the size and price of the CTO really helped me make my decision to go with OH fairly easy.

Mr. Herman, I have worn the keys off of my calculator. I'll be in an area that's ever so slightly out of the way, but there isn't any competition that I feel is too close for comfort.

For the time being I am leasing. I have a 12 month lease with an option to buy (purchase price and/or owner financing already worked out and in the contract). The lease gives me an exit plan and I'll have 10 months to make my decision.

The place is very small with less than 1,000 square feet. The dining room will only seat 15-20 and I'll have a couple of picnic tabels outside. I hope to have a very good take-out business! I plan on having only 1 employee on the clock at any given time. I'll be doing ALL the prep and cooking. Plans are to run out of as much food as possible every single day. I would like to start every day with fresh product. My prices should be extremely reasonable. I have worked up a tenative menu and used my past experience to figure my prices. I'll finalize those prices when I speak to some vendors. One thing I'll be doing different is to have all my menu prices already figured with tax. The price you see in print is the total that you will owe at the register. All prices will be even dollar amounts or fifty cents.

The building was previously another bbq joint so it's already set up for what I need. I'll only have to make minor changes. This is going to be a real joint...a joint on a budget! I'm not going to break the bank on this place.

This is going to be an adventure for sure.

CarolinaQ, hit me up if you head to IOP.

Jay
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PostPosted: Mar 28 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay, good luck in your adventure, as I will be living vicarously through you. A buddy and I were talking about having a set up just like what you are talking about today as a matter of fact...So it sounds pretty cool. I should be down your way in June for a class, so Iwill give you a call for a beer or twelve....
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PostPosted: Mar 28 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very cool Jay, best of luck to you!

How about some pictures of your new "joint"?

How much was the lease for a small establishement located "slightly out of the way", and what exactly does that mean?

How will people find you, and what do you plan on doing for advertising?

How about posting that menu?

What happened to the previous owner?
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PostPosted: Mar 28 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoEzzy wrote:
Nope not a fool...well I hope you're not a fool.

If Harry's right and any moron can make a living catering, I wonder what word he'll choose for restaurant owner operators? Wink Laughing Wink

Good luck, update us please when you find time!


You forgot to ask if it came with a "retarded" dishwasher................. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mar 28 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

HELL NO your no fool your a fool if thats what ya want and never give it a try.

best of luck please keep us posted I for one am pulling for ya I,m sure Im not alone on this
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PostPosted: Mar 28 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let us know when you open up. I have lots of family in the N. Charleston, Goose Creek and Pinopolis area...I will send them your way. And I will be down in June for a family reunion...so I will try to find you. Good Luck with the new place.
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PostPosted: Mar 28 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoEzzy wrote:
Nope not a fool...well I hope you're not a fool.

If Harry's right and any moron can make a living catering, I wonder what word he'll choose for restaurant owner operators? Wink Laughing Wink

Good luck, update us please when you find time!


I saw that post from Harry the other day too and wondered if that was really true....WHY did it take him the better part of 20 years of working in a restaurant to figure it out....and start catering himself????
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PostPosted: Mar 29 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good Luck Jay!

Based on your limited staffing, all prices include sales tax is probably a good logistics move especially when you're real busy, but you may be leaving quite a bit of money on the table.

In Florida, I got the impression that only food concessions could include the tax in the price. Then the tax man gives you a formula that over charges the tax due.

For vending all my prices include tax and are whole dollar. That way I'm not dealing with change, can do all the calulations in my head and the register functions as a cash draw. I also like $5 and $10 pricing as it is amazing how quickly you can go through those $1's.
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PostPosted: Mar 29 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoEzzy wrote:
Nope not a fool...well I hope you're not a fool.

If Harry's right and any moron can make a living catering, I wonder what word he'll choose for restaurant owner operators? Wink Laughing Wink

Good luck, update us please when you find time!

So, thanks to Wiki, this is the scorecard:

MORON: IQ of 51-70
IMBECILE: IQ of 26-50
IDIOT: IQ of 0-25
Average IQ is 100, of course.

So if a moron is a caterer, that still leaves restaurant owners enough stupidity to be imbeciles, AND STILL be smarter (or less stupid) then their idiot customers.

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Mar 29 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

BBQMAN wrote:
Very cool Jay, best of luck to you!

How about some pictures of your new "joint"?

How much was the lease for a small establishement located "slightly out of the way", and what exactly does that mean?

How will people find you, and what do you plan on doing for advertising?

How about posting that menu?

What happened to the previous owner?


I'm sure pictures will come later. Right now I don't have any.

Slightly ouf of the way...it's not directly in town, but only about 4 minutes from Main Street/Downtown.

I'll offer up the menu once it's finalized. Right now my prices are guesstimates at best. Plans are to offer the requisite pork (butts), brisket (affordable beef), chicken quarters and halves, and sausage (pre-packaged smoked sausage finished in the pit for a couple of hours).

The previous owner has health issues. The place was closed twice because of this. It's been closed probably a year now. I'll be meeting the owner for the first time this week.
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PostPosted: Mar 29 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoEzzy wrote:
Nope not a fool...well I hope you're not a fool.

If Harry's right and any moron can make a living catering, I wonder what word he'll choose for restaurant owner operators? Wink Laughing Wink

Good luck, update us please when you find time!


May I please request that If I am quoted, that it be in context My Phrase was "Almost Any Moron" Not just "Any Moron" becuase I have seen some morons fail at catering. using the qualifier "Almost" was pretty significant.
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PostPosted: Mar 29 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My apologies Harry!

Please note everyone...If Harry's right and Almost Any Moron can make a living catering, I wonder what word he'll choose for restaurant owner operators? Wink Laughing Wink
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PostPosted: Mar 29 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Jay.

From the sounds of it you are into something similar to what I'm looking for (with a bit more indoor seating) Commercial property here is EXPENSIVE.

One of the reasons I asked for the pics (beside general curiosity) was wondering if there is room for additional covered outdoor seating (one of the things I'm interesting in, and gets around the smoking ban we have here).

Obviously, indoor seating is an issue..........................

Best of luck to you, we are looking foward to seeing your new place in action!
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PostPosted: Mar 29 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

BBQMAN wrote:
Thanks Jay.

From the sounds of it you are into something similar to what I'm looking for (with a bit more indoor seating) Commercial property here is EXPENSIVE.

One of the reasons I asked for the pics (beside general curiosity) was wondering if there is room for additional covered outdoor seating (one of the things I'm interesting in, and gets around the smoking ban we have here).

Obviously, indoor seating is an issue..........................

Best of luck to you, we are looking foward to seeing your new place in action!


We (in WA state) have a smoking ban as well (including bars and taverns) and everyone THOUGHT it would be their demise as a business owner.....never happened Shocked Shocked Shocked
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PostPosted: Mar 30 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best of luck to ya Jay!! I wish you nuch success, BBQ may be the best end of the restaurant business to be in right now since folks pinching pennies. My daughter and her husband live down that way,maybe when the concession season is over I can get down to see her and son-in-law and drop by for a meal.Jim
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PostPosted: Mar 30 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

marvsbbq wrote:
BBQMAN wrote:
Thanks Jay.

From the sounds of it you are into something similar to what I'm looking for (with a bit more indoor seating) Commercial property here is EXPENSIVE.

One of the reasons I asked for the pics (beside general curiosity) was wondering if there is room for additional covered outdoor seating (one of the things I'm interesting in, and gets around the smoking ban we have here).

Obviously, indoor seating is an issue..........................

Best of luck to you, we are looking foward to seeing your new place in action!


We (in WA state) have a smoking ban as well (including bars and taverns) and everyone THOUGHT it would be their demise as a business owner.....never happened Shocked Shocked Shocked


Here in minnesota about 200 bars have gone out of business from that ban in the last 12 months. Has the amount of booze sold gone down? No it changed from on-sale to off sale or really liquor store sales. Restaurants have had even more turmoil as well, even more than usual from my inexpert eye. Last time I was in the Mall of America the 4th floor (where most of the bar, food and entertainment is) the only place left open was Hooters.

So has the ban had an impact, I know I like the cleaner air but whats the cost been? Jobs have been lost and those people moved to another employer. No answers from just my observations
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