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dholcomb1946
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PostPosted: Feb 28 2006    Post subject: Me & My New WSM Reply with quote

First Cook on WSM

I fired it up Sunday and put a 6 # sirloin tip ( I think that is what is called a tri tip on the left coest ) and a Smithfield uncooked ham on to smoke.

I put charcoal about half full in the char ring and inserted 4 or 5 pieces of hickory chunks throghout. I stacked 4 or 5 pieces of charcoal up in a cone in the center, put a couple globs of eco friendy gell starter fluild & lit it up. Then I put the center section in & filled the brinkman water pan, Put the meat in on the top rack side by side, using an et-73 & another single meat probe thermo.

I took the roast to 160, too done for me but the wife likes it that way, but it was still juicy and tender. It's like what I try to get my briskets to do. Still working on that. The ham at 160 was tender & scliable from the bone. It tasted like smoked ham.

Second cook on WSM

This morning (Monday) at 7am I fired up the WSM as above, but filled the charcoal ring full. It came up to temp in about 30 minutes at 200. Adjusting the vents occassionally it was easy to maintain a 225 - 250 temp. for hours at a time. I had to put more chunks & charcoal in about 3 as the temp was dropping. Got down to 200, brought it back up to 240.

Now a strange phenomena happened. I had a 13 # butt in the cooker. It had been mustarded and plastic wrapped in the refrig all night and was looking good. It was cooking along fine, got to 161 and hung for a couple of hours, then started moving on. It got to 171 and I'm thing we might yet get to eat some of this tonight.

BUT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED< AND IT NEVER HAS TO ME BEFORE. The pitt temp was the same, but the butt temp started falling. Over the next hour it fell from 171 to 161. The fire was at 225. So I thought my temp probe must have gone bad. I went an got another entire unit & yet it showed 161. So I get another probe & check the pitt temp, right on at 225.

Now when I pulled it tonight at 190 about 10 PM, it was moist, tender, juicy, falling apart, shredded prok butt. Some of the best I ever did.

But my question is has anyone else experienced a butt dropping 10 degrees over about an hour, then continuing to cook to 190. I saw it hang at 160 the first time & figured that was the last time for that.
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PostPosted: Feb 28 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dh...send me a couple lbs, and I'll analyze it for ya Wink
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PostPosted: Feb 28 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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has anyone else experienced a butt dropping 10 degrees over about an hour, then continuing to cook to 190


Yep, BTDT many times.

This happens to me when I have the probe in a roast or a ham and happen to have the tip in a chunk of fat. The fat heats up to the point it starts to melt and the temp drops a bit.

When doing a fat ham or pork butt I look for this. It is an indication to put the ribs on Wink When I see the temp drop back a bit and I know I haven't lost any heat from opening the box, almost always 3-4 hours and things are ready to go. A little less time if outside temps are >70F, a little longer if it's cold outside.

In any event, I usually run a butt about an hour and 15-20 minutes per pound. More won't necessarily do it any harm, if there's a lot of fat in it. If it was pretty lean I watch it closely.

HTH,

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PostPosted: Feb 28 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that you are going to lvoe your WSM. I can easily get 12+ hours of close to 250-275 out of it with little work...nothing like setting it up friday night after work and having sweet BBQ in the AM...Hell I am even getting away from doing the instant read digital thermometer thing...I find that I fuss to much when it is 227 instead of just between 225 and 250....I might pick up one for checking the meat at the end, but the last brisket I did I used the fork method and it turned out fine...well at least fine for everyone else..I was looking for a little something else...but it made great chopped sammies and I even made some brisket nachoes that were great...
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PostPosted: Feb 28 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dholcomb....congrats on the new rig..............I am sure you will have many fine smokes on it!

wow......dawg.......brisket nachos sound awesome............gonna have to give that one a go one of these days........of course brisket is priced out of sight here right now......even at Sams........must be a winter thing.
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PostPosted: Feb 28 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I understand, it is the drought in the southwest that has affected the beef prices. Let's hope for rain.
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PostPosted: Feb 28 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

WoooDoggy wrote:
From what I understand, it is the drought in the southwest that has affected the beef prices. Let's hope for rain.


Good point...........as it has been wet as heck here it never even crossed my mind...........
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PostPosted: Mar 01 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

mding38926 wrote:
dholcomb....congrats on the new rig..............I am sure you will have many fine smokes on it!

wow......dawg.......brisket nachos sound awesome............gonna have to give that one a go one of these days........of course brisket is priced out of sight here right now......even at Sams........must be a winter thing.


Yeah they turned out pretty good..I used a spicy/chili/texas kinda rub anyway on the meat so it already had a little of that nacho flavor...then just chopped it up good and spread it on some chips..

I also tossed some of the burnt end pieces in the beans last night so they were good also... big fan of brisket this weekend...just probably could have cooked it a little less..
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DawgPhan wrote:
mding38926 wrote:
dholcomb....congrats on the new rig..............I am sure you will have many fine smokes on it!

wow......dawg.......brisket nachos sound awesome............gonna have to give that one a go one of these days........of course brisket is priced out of sight here right now......even at Sams........must be a winter thing.


Yeah they turned out pretty good..I used a spicy/chili/texas kinda rub anyway on the meat so it already had a little of that nacho flavor...then just chopped it up good and spread it on some chips..

I also tossed some of the burnt end pieces in the beans last night so they were good also... big fan of brisket this weekend...just probably could have cooked it a little less..


Does sound good....unfortunately the wife is dragging me and the kids around to a huge antique show this weekend....so no smoking.........might have to do some brisket the weekend after though.........
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PostPosted: Mar 01 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sunday i got up about 6 am, aready had the wsm loaded and ready to fire up the night before. Lit and dumped a load on top, loaded two small butts totaled about 8 lbs. Funny thing for me was they hit 160 and hung for an hour then jumped to 175-178 then hung another hour or so till done. Almost like two hang times. This was weird never happened like that before. Temps was 235-250 all day. Outside temp started out at in the high 20`s then climbed to a nice day in the 60`s. Was warm when it hung though.
Anyway have fun with your WSM cooker.... dholcomb1946
You`ll enjoy it, i am still amased at how well these things work. Nice unit!!!
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PostPosted: Mar 01 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

WoooDoggy wrote:
From what I understand, it is the drought in the southwest that has affected the beef prices. Let's hope for rain.

Actually the beef futures are showing a decline and pork is going up. I am still buying brisket at $1.39 lb and butts at $.89 but I did see some Denny Morel selects butts for $2.49 lb go figure?
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PostPosted: Mar 01 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alien..saw 4.50 for brisket at my store in Seattle area this week..tomorrow they have picnic shoulder .99 lb.... Shocked
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PostPosted: Mar 01 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please excuse my ignorance but what is a WSM? I'm assuming a water smoker? Also, can you send a pic and maybe some pros and cons between the WSM and a horizontal smoker with a side fire box? Thanks for the help.
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GrievousAngel056 wrote:
Please excuse my ignorance but what is a WSM? I'm assuming a water smoker? Also, can you send a pic and maybe some pros and cons between the WSM and a horizontal smoker with a side fire box? Thanks for the help.


WSM = Weber Smokey Mountain. It is a vertical water smoker.

easily the best bullet type smoker that money can buy. Can maintain temps for 12+ hours on 1 load of charcoal. Just a great smoker.

As for the pros and cons between it and a offset...we if you are a hardcore stick burner, the WSM isnt for you. Also you arent going to feed 200 folks from a WSM either. You would be lucky to be able to feed 100 folks from a WSM and you would really have to load it down to do that...

Just basically depends on where you are and where you want to be...
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PostPosted: Mar 01 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dawg fan,

Thanks. I have an off set now. I love it, but sometimes, I just want to smoke something and ignore it. I'm guessing but what you wrote, the WSM is a lot less maintnence. However, sometimes I do want the whole "stick burning" experience. Maybe I should invest in a WSM. Can you use it in cold weather? About how much food can you fit on it? For example, how many racks of rib? How many butts? THANKS! One smoker for each mood I may have. Now, I just have to gather up some dough.
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I was at the Weber web site. They don't have a price. Does anyone know a price range for these?
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GrievousAngel056 wrote:
Dawg fan,

Thanks. I have an off set now. I love it, but sometimes, I just want to smoke something and ignore it. I'm guessing but what you wrote, the WSM is a lot less maintnence. However, sometimes I do want the whole "stick burning" experience. Maybe I should invest in a WSM. Can you use it in cold weather? About how much food can you fit on it? For example, how many racks of rib? How many butts? THANKS! One smoker for each mood I may have. Now, I just have to gather up some dough.


I think that they say you can get about 50 lbs of food on one...you can certainly get 4-5 butts on there and probably even 4-5 picnics...

Probably 8 racks of baby backs if you roll them up..a turkey and a ham....basically there are 2 grates in the smoker and I think that you can get an expandable rack for the lower grate to increase your space a little..

I have run mine in cold and rainy weather and didnt have too many problems. Now you can still toss in some wood chunks for smoke but the heat mainly comes from charcoal...I love mine..got it for christmas and have probable used it 6-7 times since then...
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GrievousAngel056 wrote:
Please excuse my ignorance but what is a WSM? I'm assuming a water smoker? Also, can you send a pic and maybe some pros and cons between the WSM and a horizontal smoker with a side fire box? Thanks for the help.

Everything you ever wanted to know about a WSM:
http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/tour.html
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GrievousAngel056 wrote:
I was at the Weber web site. They don't have a price. Does anyone know a price range for these?


I think I saw that the price went up recently to like $249.
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thanks to everyone for all of the info.
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