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Basset Hound
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PostPosted: Mar 12 2009    Post subject: Psychology in Decision Making Reply with quote

This question is something I have been thinking about while reading question posted by those starting their businesses. I guess it could be applicable to those who already have. I apologize if this belongs in another forum or is off topic.

Are (did) you take into consideration the psychological effects of your decisions on things such as colors of walls, plates, glass sizes/shapes, and food descriptions in the start up of your business?

A few examples:

- The color red stimulates the appetite.

- People who drink from short, fat glasses drink twice as much as those who use tall, slender glasses—even when the glasses hold the same volume. - Psychology Today

-People rate desserts with dramatic names higher than simple "chocolate cake," even if the two are identical. - Psychology Today

Once again I apologize if it is off topic but curiosity is getting me!

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PostPosted: Mar 12 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those things may be a factor but I would be curious as to what level of "significance" (both statistically and functionally). Haven't looked at the magazine in a long while but historically it was not necessarily considered an academic journal.

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PostPosted: Mar 12 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Virginia Q,

I respect your answer and will take it as the truth regarding the magazine as I am not a psychologist. Some of the articles did seem odd! They study listed was from the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition and was published in that magazine.

A lot of this stems from when my parents started their deli in the early 90's and my dad making a big deal about the colors of things like aprons, signage, and the walls. My interest was further raised after I had to read Why People Buy by John O'Shaughnessy in college. Couple that with several courses I took that dealt heavily in planograming and I really believe in that psychology has a lot to do with our consumer behavior.

That is the basis of why I proposed this question to see if anybody else believes has or are taking this information into their establishments.

Here is a link to study funded by University of Illinois regarding the visual cues of of portion size and consumption. I would like to see a follow up with different methodology but interesting no less.

http://mindlesseating.org/pdf/downloads/Bottomless_Soup-OR_2005.pdf

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PostPosted: Mar 12 2009    Post subject: Re: Psychology in Decision Making Reply with quote

Basset Hound wrote:


- The color red stimulates the appetite.

-People rate desserts with dramatic names higher than simple "chocolate cake," even if the two are identical. - Psychology Today

B.H.


Interesting topic. Thanks for bringing it up.

Color: We use red on fresh pork products. This was after some consumer research we did. As a side note the color Green turned consumers off – main reason was the thought of tainted meat. We are presently working on a fully cooked label that has red highlights, but with a lot more earth tones – will send it out for consumer input when finished.

We like the color discussion.

Product names we’ve found conjure up visions for consumers – sometimes its hard to nail down the best name.


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PostPosted: Mar 12 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great topic indeed!!

I have no experience in any of this but have read publications and view informational materials that make your statements/questions relevant to the restaurant industry.

Just like walking into most any chain store, the smells (especially the smells) and displays are positioned so-so for a reason.

Smells.... Let's take a bakery for instance. If you walk into (or near) a bakery the smell of fresh baked bread draws you in even more and makes you hungry for anything fresh baked.....economics 101.

Take a barbecue restaurant now....If I walk in or even NEAR a barbecue restaurant and SMELL that SMELL of smoke (cooking anything or not Shocked ), I WANT to eat anything barbecued.

On the other hand, if I walk near a barbecue restaurant and do NOT smell the smoke, I have no interest in eating there and ESPECIALLY if I walk INTO a barbecue restaurant and do not smell barbecue....I am OUT OF THERE!!

Colors.....I don't know, but I am sure you have some good points there too.

All in all.........more study needed on my part....bring on the food Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Mar 13 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marv, defining colors that keys to a product is fun - tiring, but rewarding.

To identify a product name is tough, for food.

What's funny is how many non-names, or non-meaning names are successful (Non-food) like Amazon, Google, Ebay, Fandango etc. Who would of ever thought?
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PostPosted: Mar 13 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel that where items are placed on the menu is important also.

We have a hotel restaurant here that has been a failure since they opened 8 years ago, the food has been wonderful, but sitting at the bar or in the dining room feels very uncomfortable. I cannot figure what it is about the place, but several people get a very insecure feeling in the place. Guest's will get food to go, and sit in the lobby and eat becuase of it.

there is a casino consultant that has published a book about setting up a casino better. he studied several casino's in the major gambling cities, and took notes of the busier places and the slow places in each casino and noticed trends. he got a few casino's to hire him to redecorate and promised at least a 20% increase in 1 month. He succeeeded. So I also believe atmosphere has as much to do with anything else when it comes to increasing sales
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PostPosted: Mar 13 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harry you are correct related to a pleasing environment. We have no experience in that field, but have Japanese and Taiwanese clients that swear by it, from which direction the front door is facing (office, restaurant etc.), to how a hard copy presentation is made etc. They have a term for it – I think its Chi, or something like that.

Considering all of the non-names companies like Amazon, Ebay etc. – brands. Is there a non-name brand that would fit for a fully cooked pork chop? Humorous examples accepted.
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PostPosted: Mar 13 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Texman wrote:
They have a term for it – I think its Chi, or something like that.
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Feng Shui, not easy to explain but is more about culture and superstition than what the customers will experience.

For me the theme of the resto should reflect the people you are expecting will be your customers. Low lighting and mood music combined with a diner type menu would not be a seller. If your going for finger food, which in the case most of you server here, its more about comfort, not colors, a place where you can feel free to have a few beers and not worry about getting that cloth napkin messed up with sauce. Our favorite places for real cultural classic food are usually quite plain in decor, and are serving mostly locals to that area that are only interested in being at home, not changing menus or the latest innovation, just a place to go that you know what to expect each time. Build your client-el in this manner and you'll have a hit, whether your serving pizza, French cuisine, or BBQ.
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PostPosted: Mar 14 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harry Nutczak wrote:
I feel that where items are placed on the menu is important also.

We have a hotel restaurant here that has been a failure since they opened 8 years ago, the food has been wonderful, but sitting at the bar or in the dining room feels very uncomfortable. I cannot figure what it is about the place, but several people get a very insecure feeling in the place. Guest's will get food to go, and sit in the lobby and eat because of it.



I have been in lots of places like that. Something in the atmosphere is a major turnoff. That is similar to what I was asking. To me, the ambiance is a major part of the dining experience. Whether it be a dive or a fine dining establishment if the atmosphere is off, it's off. I am surprised that the hotel you described has survived. I have ate at some great places food wise that just never made it.

Regarding the casino story, I have heard about that. Vegas is a great place to see consumer psychology in action. A walk through a place like the Venetian or the Wynn really shows how much planning companies do to create an environment and steer the consumer in a specific way.

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