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BlowinSmoke BBQ Fan
Joined: 22 Apr 2008 Posts: 282 Location: Collinsville, Ok
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There should be a rule that to call yourself a barbecue resteraunt that you have to have a smoker, to me that's the only true barbecue.... _________________ Joshua S.
----Fairway BBQ Inc. - Owner-----
www.fairwaybbq.com
----New Pigs On The Block BBQ---
www.greencountrychilibbqtoo.com
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Boomer BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 1543 Location: SMOKIN' in SHAMOKIN PA
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Posted: Nov 02 2008 Post subject: |
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SmokinOkie
Thanks for the link read the interview and like Skidder said evaded the question. Man should be a politician the way he answered that question.
boomer _________________ Life isn't about how to survive the storm,
But how to dance in the rain. |
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Cal-B-Que BBQ Super Fan

Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 498 Location: Groveland, CA
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Posted: Nov 02 2008 Post subject: |
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I used to like this show, but all the screaming, cussing, and rhetoric got old after a while. I will watch it if nothing better on now.
It is interesting that Ramsey's own restaurant failed (as pointed out in several episodes); I'm surprised that more of the chef's/owner's that are being berated by him don't point that out when they dissagree with him.
Bullocks! |
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BBQMAN BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 15475 Location: Florida
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Posted: Nov 02 2008 Post subject: |
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| Cal-B-Que wrote: | I used to like this show, but all the screaming, cussing, and rhetoric got old after a while. I will watch it if nothing better on now.
It is interesting that Ramsey's own restaurant failed (as pointed out in several episodes); I'm surprised that more of the chef's/owner's that are being berated by him don't point that out when they dissagree with him.
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His first raunt failed.
All the other's since then have been VERY successful.
Some learn from their experiences, some do not!
I personally love the show.
If I had a raunt that was failing, and was offered up help from Chef Ramsey my only questions would be "tell me where we went wrong, and let's make some changes".
Of course that doesn't make for good TV, so they find more mercurial types.
The man is actually doing these dipwads a huge favor. _________________ BBQMAN
"I Turned A Hobby Into A Business".
Providing "IMHO" Since 2005. |
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Gourmet-Gator BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 1806 Location: Evans, Georgia
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Posted: Nov 02 2008 Post subject: |
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J Willys Bar and Grill....I see nothing of BBQ meantioned here.... _________________ In GOD We Trust... GOD Bless AMERICA
Gear...Oklahoma Joe's Longhorn Offset
Brinkmans Gourmet Bullet
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Boomer BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 1543 Location: SMOKIN' in SHAMOKIN PA
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Posted: Nov 03 2008 Post subject: |
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Gourmet-Gator
Here is part of the interview from one of the owners a
link that Smokin-Okie posted earlier
Boomer
What is it about BBQ that speaks to you?
We like to say we bleed BBQ. We test each and every batch of ribs we cook. After a period of time you develop a palate that can identify subtle flavors and nuances just as a wine connoisseur can tell about wine. A perfect rack of ribs is a work of love and passion. The best part is when the guest tells you it is the best ribs they have ever had in their life. Good BBQ is no accident so it is rewarding when you get some great feedback. After Chef Ramsay helped us develop our sauce I knew we had a competition level BBQ sauce with the potential for branding world wide.
How did J. Willys Barbeque House come about?
We named it after the operating partner John William Ittenbach and it was his childhood nick name. John’s sister, Linda suggested it. Before Chef Ramsay arrived it was just J Willy’s Bar and Grill; he was the one who branded us as a barbecue house, although we did serve ribs and bbq pork. We then decided to come up with a menu that was similar to every casual theme concept we could think of in an attempt to copy a mix of Chilis, Applebees, Ruby Tuesday etc. Obviously that did not work out for us, so we asked Chef Ramsay for help. _________________ Life isn't about how to survive the storm,
But how to dance in the rain. |
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roxy BBQ All Star

Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 9331 Location: Wasaga beach, Ontario
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Posted: Nov 03 2008 Post subject: |
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Well I dont bleed BBQ but I have been know to cr@p BBQ after a good feed and I got a feeling from what I have read about this place.. Their "BBQ" is jut that... cr@p
Maybe they like to soak the ribs in liquid smoke so it has that subtle flavour that a true connoisseur can detect.  _________________ Chargriller Akorn
WSM
LIAR #100
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Do not rely on a rabbits foot for luck, it did not work out too well for the rabbit... |
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Skidder BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 1720
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Posted: Nov 03 2008 Post subject: |
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| Roxy I'm glad you said it. I'm usually a man of my word but I've been trying to hold it in. I agree with you wholeheartedly. I was gonna give them the benefit of the doubt till I read that hokey interview. That dude is full of it. I bleed bbq my azz! Love to meet him in person and let him know how full of s@&t he is. As far as I'm concerned he's just trying to save his azz from his 1.2 million dollar dept. Selling a bbq sauce he didn't even make. The one they were using looked like sticky tar and they were serving it. |
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chuckflarhu Newbie
Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 50 Location: Elburn, Il
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Posted: Nov 06 2008 Post subject: |
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I can't get enough kitchen nightmares. Either the UK or US versions.
The lighting and color are better on the US version, but content wise I have to give it to the UK version. Hate the "incandescent" look though. _________________ Stupidity is the basic building block of the universe.
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Harry Nutczak BBQ All Star

Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 8558 Location: The Northwoods
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Posted: Nov 06 2008 Post subject: |
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| Boomer wrote: | | We then decided to come up with a menu that was similar to every casual theme concept we could think of in an attempt to copy a mix of Chilis, Applebees, Ruby Tuesday etc. Obviously that did not work out for us, . |
I see so much of that crap everyday, different places around here open and close 3 or 4 times a year. it is usually some clown from out of state with more money than brains and no restaurant experience, the buy a restaurant with these great dreams of offering a "Taste of Chicago in the northwoods" theme that has 50-60 different items on the menu with no crossover, nothing sells as fast as it should so they sell old stale crap, lose their client base, close and sell it at a loss to someone else with foolish dreams that does it all over again.
We have a few select places that have been open for decades, the simple fix is have a tight limited menu that only offers the items that are excellent and move quickly enough to not have waste loss from spoilage or freezer burn.
I hope to catch that episode one of these days, Maybe i'll bring the puter in to work today and watch during my afternon lull. _________________ Just remember that the toes you may step on during your climb to the top will also be attached to the a$$es you'll be forced to kiss on your way back down! |
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marvsbbq BBQ All Star

Joined: 15 May 2005 Posts: 6186
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Posted: Nov 06 2008 Post subject: |
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With all or most of these places being in serious debt, I wonder what Chef Ramsey charges for his "service" or is it FREE?? Is this FREE just to make a TV show??
Just Ramsey himself to be there has to be expensive much less all of his staff and camera crew.....for several days at a time.
Wonder what kind of "waiting list" he has of potential failures that are asking for his help??
Also would be interested to know what kind of "contract" he has with these places....being as rude as he is to owners and staff and no one throwing his ass out the door.
I love that show too..........but man, not sure I could stand to be talked to like that either..  |
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Teleking BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 26 Sep 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Maine
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| marvsbbq wrote: | | .being as rude as he is to owners and staff and no one throwing his ass out the door. |
An owner did in one episode but I can’t remember if that was the BBC or US version. The owner was in debt to his eyeballs and Ramsey called the wife to make him come to his senses. _________________ “Franken Smoker”
“The Bride of Franken Smoker” |
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