Kings ford vs. Royal Oak

specmat · Joined: 05 Sep 2008 Posts: 12

Is Royal Oak better than Kingsford and if so, why?

barnburner180 · Posted: Sep 18 2008 Post subject:

I like RO lump a lot better than Kingsford. RO doesn't have all the ash that Kingsford does, and produces a lot of heat over a sustained time.
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specmat · Joined: 05 Sep 2008 Posts: 12

Actually I was wondering about the Kingsford Briquettes vs. the Royal Oak Briquttes

r6abusa · BBQ Fan Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 372 Location: Michigan

IMO I would still vote for the Royal Oak as I dont care for kingford at all. If you are lloking for a briq. the best is OCC Rancher, I can't get it here anymore so I have beed using meijers premium hardwood bricks as a substitute. I would recommend trying the lump though to see how you like it.
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Harry Nutczak · Posted: Sep 19 2008 Post subject:

I have brought this up quite a few times over time, But I guess one more timne won't hurt.

Kingsford brand briquettes (to be referred to as "K" from now on)

are only about 60% wood products, and of that wood it is mostly coniferous sourced (read Pine, Spruce, and other resinous woods)

Then they add what they call "Mineral Char" we call it mineral coal! Lignite coal to be more specific. The stuff that the EPA is blaming for acid rain and mercury contamination of our lakes & rivers.

(hows that pine & mercury tasting on your food BTW?)

They also add lime to make the ash turn white, (lime is dirt, dirt does not burn, hence large amounts of ash)

Since coal can be hard to light, lets add some nitrates to the stuff to get it to light easier.

I guess the best analogy I can think of is making a choise between a steak (lump charcoal) or a can of potted meat ("K" brand) lump is whole pieces of wood, "K" is a mixture of who knows what and some equivalence to lips & arseholes mixed in.

Do yourself a favor and try to find a natural lump that you like.

Did I mention the lawsuit against "K" for benzene outgassing when burning and causing a chefs death from bone cancer??

You can look that up too if you want.
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stinkpickle · BBQ Fan Joined: 28 May 2007 Posts: 303

I love Royal Oak lump, but their briquettes absolutely SUCK! They are much more brittle than Kingsford and crumble like crazy. They're harder to light too. If you HAVE TO choose between the two briquettes, go with Kingsford.

82's BBQ · Posted: Sep 24 2008 Post subject:

Royal oak for me
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cruzado_xxi · Posted: Sep 29 2008 Post subject:

where do i buy RO in mexico???? does anyone know.
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Sparkie49 · Posted: Sep 29 2008 Post subject:

not sure where you can get it locally, but you can find it online.

Around here we have True Value Hardware stores that carry it. There's also a local place that handles the BGE, and they carry their line of lump which is pretty dang good, albeit rather pricey, but that's mainly for the name.

I will never use briquettes again and forget anything from Kingscrap. (nah... I'm not opinionated... Wink

) Cowboy lump isn't much better.
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tnbarbq · Posted: Sep 29 2008 Post subject:

I never use briquettes. Too many chemicals. RO lump is a great value. Around here 10lb bag is about $4.50. Kingsford makes a lump coal but it's hard to find and too many sparks.
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stinkpickle · BBQ Fan Joined: 28 May 2007 Posts: 303

Harry Nutczak · Posted: Sep 30 2008 Post subject:

Tom C · Posted: Sep 30 2008 Post subject:

I have been using RO lump for several months now after reading all the postings here singing its praise. Before that I used Kingsford for years.

I have been consedering switching back for the following reasons:

RO burns much faster than "K" (it also burns hotter but it was not a factor).

The biggest factor is that it never seems to burn completely unless I have a lot of wood burning with it.

Lastly, it's a lot more messy to deal with.

I've also tried Rancher bricketts and didn't care for it either.

All that being said, I'm not real excited about long term use of "K" because of all the reasons Harry mentioned. I may just end up using either "K" or RO for grilling only and just stay with stick burning in my offset. Rolling Eyes

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necron 99 · Posted: Sep 30 2008 Post subject:

dln5899 · Joined: 04 Aug 2008 Posts: 1

I have been using Kingsford for a while (I know shame on me) and I am going to switch over to a lump charcoal. My question is that If fill a chimney starter full of kingsford when I switch over will I still fill a chimney starter full of lump? I know lump burns alot hotter and I am just wandering about the amounts to use.

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Fatrat · Posted: Oct 03 2008 Post subject:

They have the Kingsford lump in Chicago as well. I've used it, Nice big chunks, no noticable sparking,very little ash and it burned hot. The problem is that it is hit or miss when you find it.
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necron 99 · Posted: Oct 04 2008 Post subject:

I went in the nearest Sam's Club to us last evening, and found all the Kingsford Charwood gone. They still had plenty of Kingsford briq's for those who like that.

But, that Sam's Club is now stocking a huge pile of 40 lb. bags of Best of the West Mesquite Lump for $13.87 / bag! That's around $0.35 / lb. which is pretty low for lump, and lower than I've seen Kingsford Charwood priced (lowest I saw was 10 lbs. Charwood for $5 at KMart on end of season closeout).

Naked Whiz didn't rate the Best of the West brand lump highly

http://www.nakedwhiz.com/lumpdatabase/lumpbag22.htm

but when you look at the user / reader comments there are some who have had good experiences with this product, and it gets a 3.67 out of 5 numerical rating, a B minus on a 5 point scale.

http://www.nakedwhiz.com/poll/comment_form.php?bagnum=22

I picked up two 6.6 lb. bags on sale for $2.79 / bag ($0.42/lb.) at Kroger last time I was in Houston, so I'll try those out later this year. There have been a number of lump charcoals I've tried that I had different experiences than NW had.

But it definitely looks like there's more than Kingsford's brands at Sam's Club now, for the first time I can remember, going back into the 80's! Who knows what's next?
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Harry Nutczak · Posted: Oct 04 2008 Post subject:

My Reinhart sales rep finally got me a price for the "SteakHouse Lump" which is R/O in a different package for foodservice.

I think I am going to buy a few hundred pounds of that and see how it works out until some starts with the newer charwood up here.

With the current cost of fuel (and for thelast 5 years) I am sick of traveling to get my charcoal! My cost starts and near 25 cents a pound when I buy in pallet loads, But once you add up fuel and time it gets pretty high unless I come back with at least 1 ton of product each time.
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