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denisbaldwin Newbie

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 91 Location: Lakeland, FL
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Posted: Aug 02 2008 Post subject: Best cut for making pulled pork? |
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I've been experimenting with pulled pork on and off for a bit, and I still don't feel like I've got it just "right".
I've been using Boston Butts. I typically let them smoke at 225 to 250 for about 8 hours in the foil, then another 4-5 hours in the open smoker. They get done all the way though, but they don't taste or have the texture like what pulled pork should (in my mind anyway).
So, I think maybe I'm using the wrong cut. Is Boston Butt best for pulled pork? or should I try something else?
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TasunkaWitko BBQ Fan

Joined: 21 May 2008 Posts: 211
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Posted: Aug 02 2008 Post subject: |
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denis -
i am no expert, but boston butt should be as good as it gets.
do yourself a favor and check out the BBQFAQ:
http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/faq2
you can view it online or download it in word.
tehre might be something in your technique that needs tweaking. |
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JimmieOhio BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 11 Mar 2008 Posts: 1125 Location: east side of Cleveland, Ohio
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Posted: Aug 02 2008 Post subject: Re: Best cut for making pulled pork? |
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| denisbaldwin wrote: | | I typically let them smoke at 225 to 250 for about 8 hours in the foil, then another 4-5 hours in the open smoker. |
Try smoking them open first, then foil. And cook by temperature, NOT time.
In fact, cook until about 165-195 (everybody squabbles about the exact temp to remove at), then take it out, wrap with foil, and cover with a towel and put in a cooler until time to pull. I never use foil on a butt while still in the smoker. No reason to. _________________ Jimmie Ohio
KCBS Certified BBQ Judge
"Never criticize a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes. Then, criticize him all you want since you're a mile away and you have HIS shoes."
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empnero BBQ Fan
Joined: 21 Jun 2008 Posts: 122 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Aug 02 2008 Post subject: |
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thats about as good as it gets. there are 2 other cuts that are very similar, the picnic ( like butt from the lower shoulder instead of upper) and whole shoulder with bone in
and listen to jimmieohio about foil, if youre gonna foil it you do it at the end, not the start |
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SoEzzy BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 13183 Location: SLC, UT
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Posted: Aug 02 2008 Post subject: |
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Smoke them naked except for slather and rub for the first 5 - 8 hours or until they get past about 165 F internal, then foil and cook to 195 - 200 F internal, cooler or rest for 30 minutes minimum, pull, add back any juices from the foil, then serve! _________________ Here's a change Robert.
I still work here! |
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denisbaldwin Newbie

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 91 Location: Lakeland, FL
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Posted: Aug 02 2008 Post subject: |
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Thank you all for the advice. I read over the FAQ last week and have been pretty good about that.
I'll definitely try the smoke first and foil when off the grill. My concern was always that it would dry up without the foil to retain the juices. I guess the only way to confirm or bust this theory is to try, so I'll try that tomorrow.
Thanks again! |
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JimmieOhio BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 11 Mar 2008 Posts: 1125 Location: east side of Cleveland, Ohio
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Posted: Aug 02 2008 Post subject: |
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| denisbaldwin wrote: | | My concern was always that it would dry up without the foil to retain the juices. |
No way will it dry up, since it is such a fatty cut. Different story if you try it with something lean like pork loin or tenderloin.
Explore this site for way more information than you bargained for!  _________________ Jimmie Ohio
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"Never criticize a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes. Then, criticize him all you want since you're a mile away and you have HIS shoes." |
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SmokinOkie BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 2078
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Posted: Aug 02 2008 Post subject: |
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Butt is THE choice for pulled with the Picnic coming in a close second for many, both joined together will make a Shoulder.
You got some great comments. Also, you don't HAVE to wrap it in foil, as it has so much connective fat, it won't dry out unless you overcook it. |
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Two Chord
Joined: 15 Jun 2008 Posts: 9 Location: Central IL
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Posted: Aug 03 2008 Post subject: |
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I do bone in boston butt. The last one I did was 9lbs. I cooked at 225-250. Only thing I did was put on rub. Never put in foil while on cooker. I take it off cooker at 175 and wrap in foil. Let it sit in foil for at least an hour. I took out of foil and pulled the bone right out no problems. I then pull it apart with two forks and remove most of the fat. Mine turn out very tender and flavorful. _________________ Find out what it is you don't do well, and then don't do that thing. |
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denisbaldwin Newbie

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 91 Location: Lakeland, FL
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Posted: Aug 03 2008 Post subject: |
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Per all the suggestions here, I'm currently in hour 6 of boston butt smoking. I just checked the internal temps. 141 degrees and rising. I used no foil, and both pieces are about 9.5 pounds, so I'm thinking in another 4-5 hours, they should be perfect.
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polock BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 1290 Location: Sparta MO
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Posted: Aug 03 2008 Post subject: |
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butt all the way,, i have never foiled one and never had a dry one just be sure to cook it hot enough and long enough to break down the connective tissue. otherwise the fun part of pulling can turn into a dreaded task _________________ bullpin double barrel smoker
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denisbaldwin Newbie

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 91 Location: Lakeland, FL
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Posted: Aug 05 2008 Post subject: |
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This butt turned out MUCH better. Texture was a lot closer to what I was looking for, though it took 18 hours and still didn't pull as well as I though it would.
I'm thinking I probably cooked it at too low a temperature. I didn't get over 240 degrees, though the internal temps did get to where it was supposed to.
Off to more experimenting! |
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SoEzzy BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 13183 Location: SLC, UT
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Posted: Aug 05 2008 Post subject: |
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Denis where are you measuring the temperatures at?
Get yourself a cheap shelf thermometer and map the grates when the cooker is up to temperature.
If you can get more than one, they have them in Wally world for $4.00 or so. I have 3 so I can pet one at the front, one in the middle and one at the back, thes move them from left to right too! _________________ Here's a change Robert.
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denisbaldwin Newbie

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 91 Location: Lakeland, FL
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Posted: Aug 05 2008 Post subject: |
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| Ambient temps are measured at the doors of my rig, about 12"-16" away from the butts. Internal temps I take right near the bone (at the middle), about 1/3 the way in on the right hand side and about 1/3 the way in on the left hand side. I use one of those instant read fork thermometers and also a walmart-special oven thermometer. |
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purplewg BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Posts: 1300 Location: Florida
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Posted: Aug 06 2008 Post subject: |
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| The last butts I did in my UDS were in the 5 pound range. I never got over 250 and it took 5 hours to get them to 165 internal. I then removed them, wrapped in foil and let stand for another hour. They were pretty dang good. Smoked them naked the whole time. Temps ranged 150-250 on a very windy day and before I fixed my dang warped firebox door. |
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denisbaldwin Newbie

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 91 Location: Lakeland, FL
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Posted: Aug 06 2008 Post subject: |
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| I think the butts I'm making may be too big as well. I think the last two were nearing 9-10 pounds apiece. |
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stinkpickle BBQ Fan
Joined: 28 May 2007 Posts: 303
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Posted: Aug 09 2008 Post subject: |
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| denisbaldwin wrote: | | I think the butts I'm making may be too big as well. I think the last two were nearing 9-10 pounds apiece. |
Most of them I get are in the 7-8lbs range. I smoke 'em at 225-250 until they cross the 190 degree mark (about 11 hours), wrap 'em in foil, and stick 'em in a cooler for another hour to rest. After that, the pulling is easy. |
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