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Sticks-n-Chicks

Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 15 Location: Kansas City
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Posted: Jul 17 2008 Post subject: Diamond Plate Smoker Question |
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I just ordered a DPP and hope to have it in the next 4 weeks. Question for any of the DPP owners.
1. What do you typically smoke with?
2. How did you season the smoker?
3. What do you typiclly do when startng the smoke up?
4. Any Suggestions? |
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cl007ark
Joined: 02 Mar 2008 Posts: 15 Location: Deer Park, Texas
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Posted: Jul 17 2008 Post subject: fat50 |
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1. I smoke with pretty much oak. Have use some hickory and mes.
2.Ran the fire at about 300 for about 5 hours, spraying the inside with Pam about every 30-45 min.
3.Load the basket with charcoal and use the propane assist to start it up once going good throw about 2-3 splits on and kill the propane. she's ready to run in about 20-30 min.
4. Just play around with the damper system until you figure how to maintain temps. I went to my first C/O and fought the heat the whole day. After about three cooks on it I got it figured out. Alot of good threads on here about the DPP. _________________ Andy
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Slobberin' Hog

Joined: 23 Feb 2008 Posts: 20 Location: K.C. MO
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Posted: Jul 17 2008 Post subject: |
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Hey Sticks,
We got our Fat 40 in Feb. You will not be disapointed. We got ours used from Okie Jay so it was already seasoned. As far as getting the fire going, we start with one chimney full of charcoal then throw a couple of sticks on top of that. Then we repeat this process one more time. After that it is one or two sticks every hour. We leave the fire box dampers all the way open and close the stack dampers about a quarter of the way. This gives you a pretty blue smoke for the entire cook. We use oak and hickory in our cooker. Just the right amount of flavor. The only issue we have with the cooker in getting the ashes out of the fire box because the wood tray sits a little low in the box. The best thing we found to get to the ashes is an old golf club. We use a sand wedge to just scrape the ashes out.
Where abouts in KC are you? We are just north of Liberty. Are you going to cook in any comps this year? If you want to see the Fat 40 in action we will be cooking the weekend of Aug. 15th and 16th in Excelsior Springs. If you have any questions feel free to drop me an line. I'll help if I can.
Gary,
Slobber'n Hog Bar-B-Crew _________________ DP Fat 40
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Florida Boy BBQ Fan
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 151 Location: Central Florida
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Posted: Jul 17 2008 Post subject: |
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I smoke with mainly Oak and some pecan for major cooks. I seasoned mine with veggie oil. First as Travis stated before first thing take to car wash and wash all the machine oil off inside and then oil the top bottom and all the grates every part of the inside. Starting up if wood is dry enough put two splits on each end of fire box and light log starter for 20 min. If not lay bed of lump and hit log starter for 20 min(make sure both doors are left open) then the last 5 min of the 20 put two splits at each door. I always like at least two splits at each door for each snout _________________ We Smoke Country Style cuz we are Country Boyz
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OddThomas BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 2010 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Jul 17 2008 Post subject: Re: Diamond Plate Smoker Question |
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| Sticks-n-Chicks wrote: | | I just ordered a DPP and hope to have it in the next 4 weeks. Question for any of the DPP owners. |
1. What do you typically smoke with?
I use a mixture of red oak and hickory. I start with the oak and geta good bed of coals going and then I mix it up as I go. Sometimes, if I can get it, I toss in a little fruit wood like cherry or apple.
2. How did you season the smoker?
First thing, clean it well with a mild dish soap and water, making sure you rinse it well and let it air dry. When it's dry, using either spray cans of cooking oil or some sort of air-pressure pump, coat the entire inside really well with vegetable or canola oil. I prefer the latter because the spray cans have water content and that isn't as effective as straight oil. However you do it, coat it well. Make sure all of your dampers are wide open. If you have the propane starter, fill the firebox as full of wood as you can get manage, then let the propane starter rip--leave your firebox doors open. One you get a really solid fire going shut down the gas assist and close your firebox doors. Get it as hot as you can manage, probably 375-400, and keep a roaring fire in it for 3-4 hours. You'll probably have to feed it several sitcks per 35-45 minutes to maintain these temps. Afterward, shut down all the dampers and let it cool off slowly. All done.
3. What do you typiclly do when startng the smoke up?
I used to screw up a lot. Keep in mind here I have a 70, so you might not need as much wood as I do.
What I do now, is fully open the intake and exhaust dampers, open both firebox doors, load about about 6 good-sized 1/4 splits (evenly spaced) and light my propane starter--again, leve your firebox doors open until you turn off the gas. By the time my fire is burning clean, I'm usually hitting about 200 on the door thermos. At that point I shut down the gas, close my firebox doors, and close my intake damper to 25% ***, leaving my exhaust dampers wide open. I usually slow to about 250-ish in the door thermos, which for me, means 275 on the lower grates--right where I like it. I have to add at least two 1/4 splits every 45-60 minutes to keep her right. Sometimes I can go a little longer, but not often. Sometimes I use more wood.
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When I move it I won't have to worry about it, but while the intake damper is on the bottom of the firebox, it is a little difficult to see, so I marked the handle with a file so I know how far open or closed it is. I opened it all the way up, and using a good file, I cut a groove in the handle right up next to the firebox. Then I closed it all the way and made another mark, again right up beside the firebox. That gave me the full range of motion of the handle. I eyeballed that measurement in half and marked again, then split the halves into quarters. Now I can adjust in roughly 1/4 increments without any fuss.
4. Any Suggestions?
a: Travis recommends using a water hose to clean the ashes out of the firebox. Just spray it out and let it air dry. Don't worry too much about rust.
b: I try to keep my fire right between the snouts and I try to have 3 logs burning at all times. I find this keeps the temps even in my unit from left to right and I don't have to fight with one side or the other too much -- which is exactly what I did when I first got it.
c: Just play around with different methods until it runs like you want or you give in and let it run like it wants. It'll probably win.
d: Have fun. |
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texbbqpits BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 18 Oct 2006 Posts: 1203 Location: East Texas
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Posted: Jul 18 2008 Post subject: |
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Previous answers are pretty much what I do with my 50 model. I primarily use post oak and red oak with some hickory every now and then blended in. I personally don't like pure hickory for the fire. I also used PAM to season the unit for about 4 hours with an application about once an hour. Be sure and wash out the grill area prior to seasoning. Start up times vary with the wood and how much it is aged. The oak I'm presently using is about 18 months old and extremely dense and hard and takes about 30 minutes for a good start with the gas starter. Last batch was not as dense and required less time. I usually start with two or three sticks on each end (4-6 sticks total) depending on size.
I don't recommend using a water hose to wash out the fire box. I sprayed mine out several times with no problem, but I also sprayed it out and got mud (ash and water) into several of the holes in the fire starter and it was a pain to get it out. (Used an air compressor on high with a long snout and them connected the air compressor hose to the gas hose for the burner). I usually just use a brush or an old shop vac now.
Good luck with your pit. You're gonna love it. Tom r _________________ Klose Mobile
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Sticks-n-Chicks

Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 15 Location: Kansas City
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Posted: Jul 18 2008 Post subject: WOW Thanks |
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OddThomas and texbbqpits
Great information thank you so much. |
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Harry Nutczak BBQ All Star

Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 8558 Location: The Northwoods
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Posted: Jul 18 2008 Post subject: |
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I went out an d bought an HVLP gravity paint spray gun, and 3 quarts of veggy oil.
Fired up the air compressor and painted every surface of this cooker with the oil before lighting the first fire.
I got a good coal bed going with lump and nicely seasoned wood, then added some less seasoned splits (the ends were actually bubbling sap when they got going)
This way I cooked the oil onto the steel, then coated it with a light coat of creosote from the unseasoned wood. Not to the point of being sticky, but to bake it on solid so it does not flake off and expose bare steel
A freind (that is not too bright when it comes to stuff like this) thought that the racks were painted with black paint. He tried to scrape it off with his fingernail and swore up and down it was painted and not from my seasoning and burn-in.
You can get an affordable spray gun from Harbor Freight tools, I always prefer gravity feed as opposed to siphon models, they are just easier to use especially at odd angles. _________________ Just remember that the toes you may step on during your climb to the top will also be attached to the a$$es you'll be forced to kiss on your way back down! |
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Poppa's PTL Club BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 1578 Location: Lawrenceville, GA
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Posted: Jul 18 2008 Post subject: |
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OK, once you have it seasoned, you clean it out after every cook with water (obviously, no soap).
How often do you guys re-season, if at all? _________________ I likes to eat 'da pig!
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OddThomas BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 2010 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Jul 18 2008 Post subject: |
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| Poppa's PTL Club wrote: | | OK, once you have it seasoned, you clean it out after every cook with water (obviously, no soap).How often do you guys re-season, if at all? |
I clean mine after every major cook with a pressure washer at the local car wash. If necessary I use a degreaser and a wire brush to get the stuck on stuff unstuck. I want it seasoned well, but I also want to make sure it's clean. I'm not one of those guys who believes an ample buildup of rotten meat particles and rancid fat makes your Q taste better. I know some folks will say that's overkill and it might be, but that's how I do it currently.
I'll reseason as often as necessary. The racks might need it more often than anything, but when I'm not working a gig, it's a small matter to oil them down and start a fire for a few hours. I've had mine since April and it's been in use at least twice a week since. I'll probably reseason the racks by the end of this month, because they are starting to show a bit in spots. |
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Harry Nutczak BBQ All Star

Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 8558 Location: The Northwoods
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Posted: Jul 19 2008 Post subject: |
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I have been running mine with the charcoal/water pans, So I have only had to remove those for a scraping. and I hit the racks with the torch to burn off the mung to get it crispy, then hit those with a scraper & brush.
Mine has seen the carwash only once, I added about 5 gallons of water here and 1 quart of 'SmokeHouse Cleaner" I let that slosh around on the way to the carwash. and blew out the grease that way. it came out squeky clean.
Re-oiled the affected areas and cooked it in again.
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Smokehouse cleaner is a food-safe solution that cuts through grease and creosote. It is USDA approved for use in food production area's.
I got a sample from my main chemical guy to try and I like it. _________________ Just remember that the toes you may step on during your climb to the top will also be attached to the a$$es you'll be forced to kiss on your way back down! |
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OddThomas BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 2010 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Jul 19 2008 Post subject: |
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| Harry Nutczak wrote: | | I have been running mine with the charcoal/water pans, So I have only had to remove those for a scraping. and I hit the racks with the torch to burn off the mung to get it crispy, then hit those with a scraper & brush. |
I need to pick up one of those weed burners you turned me onto and go that route sometimes. I'll also give the SmokeHouse Cleaner a try; thanks for that. As far as the charcoal pans go, I use them on every cook, but not always with water in them. I think they do a good job of retaining and evening out the temps even when they are empty. |
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Poppa's PTL Club BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 1578 Location: Lawrenceville, GA
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Posted: Jul 19 2008 Post subject: |
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The weed burner is a great thing. You can get them cheap at Northern Tool. I'll also head down to m local restaurant supply store and ask them about the cleaner. It's caustic, so I'm wary, but I've dropped nastier stuff before.
Because mine has the grill added, the charcoal/water pans are not something I can add on. I am thinking I might try to fabricate some sort of removable flat plate that would sit on top of the snouts in the cook chamber to even out the heat a little more. I'm brand new to the cooker, so I've got a ways to go to make it work for me. _________________ I likes to eat 'da pig!
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