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necron 99 BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 2594 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Smokedog Newbie
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Posted: Jun 09 2008 Post subject: How did it turn out? |
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sleecjr BBQ Fan
Joined: 27 Mar 2008 Posts: 259 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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None at all. what kind of charcoal are you using? _________________ Primo Oval XL
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nes_matt BBQ Fan

Joined: 04 Jun 2008 Posts: 266
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| necron 99 wrote: | | OkieJay, sleecjr, and nes_matt have been using these longer than I have, you can do a 'search' for more of their posts. |
LOL!! Precisely a week longer for me!
I think it is pretty darn good for the $$, but I'm a newbie to this. Mine ran for ~6 hours without much tending. I had a little bit of a hard time getting the temp up over 225* on a windy day, but I think the water in the tray kind of limits it there. Next time I'm going to try sand instead of water. (as soon as the water ran out the temp spiked, so I think the water evaporation process limits the temperature effectively to ~225*.
All I can tell you is my wife was a little skeptical and now says I can Q whenever I want! This beats anything I can get in a restaurant in MA. |
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necron 99 BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 2594 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Posted: Jun 09 2008 Post subject: |
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I had zero problem holding temperatures - mine was the opposite experience, but everything worked out. I've detailed that further down in this post.
I'd already performed 3 mods before I used the cooker.
First mod was on the door knobs - the tabs that hold them to the latch are crimped exactly opposite of how they need to be crimped. My wife took some slip joint pliers and needle nose pliers and remedied that for now, and I called the help number in the manual. They're shipping me 2 replacement door assemblies, no cost to me, and were very helpful folks on the phone.
Second I put two layers of foil tape on the 3 door edges like Okiejay showed he'd done. One door is still a bit leaky though.
Third, I bought a 14" replacement grate (Outdoor Gourmet brand) at Academy for $2.99, placed it in the charcoal basket with the grate slats at 90 degrees to the basket grate, and my wife tied them together using some of her picture frame hanging wire.
For my first cook, I put one layer of OCC Rancher in the basket with 3 fist-sized chunks of pecan heartwood, topped that with some B&B Oak lump, then put about 10 lit briquets on top of this. This turned out to be 200%+ the amount of fuel I needed for 4 racks of BB ribs!
I did not use water in the water pan, and I find the water pan that comes with this cooker very shallow. I'll bet it's a shared part with their ECB equivalent sold at KMart, and that cooker's design probably requires a shallow pan (I'm guessing). I have an old Brinkmann Gourmet water pan that had a hole in it, so I took that, wadded up 3 balls of aluminum foil about the size of my fist, put them in my empty old Brinkmann pan, then foiled both sides of that pan. This tip I got from looking through mods on the Texas BBQ site - from Burnt Food Dude.
http://www.texasbbqforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4016
We had some wind here today. I wound up closing the bottom port that faced the wind completely, and leaving the downwind bottom port barely cracked (about 15% open). I checked the dome thermometer, it ran about 30 degrees warmer than my Maverick showed at the 2 cooking grates. The dome thermometer showed about 275 degrees F for most of my cook.
Ribs were done in 5 hours, the charcoal pan was still pretty full, so I dumped the lit coals from it in my Bar-B-Chef where I was smoking a brisket today.
Lessons for me:
1. I don't need to use lump charcoal in this cooker to get a decent cooking temperature with the water pan approach I used. OCC Rancher or Nature's Hardwood briquets will work fine, at least for cooks of 6 hours or less duration.
2. The water pan approach I used had the 2 cooking grates within 5 degrees F of each other, often less, without having something hot and sloshy (and heavy in the deeper water pan from the Gourmet) to fiddle with. The Brinkmann Gourmet water pan is the ECB charcoal pan and can be found at Bass Pro for a few bucks. Academy had only had the ECB water pans in stock, which are not large enough in diameter for the Gourmet, but I think I saw some ECB charcoal pans there for the first time (for me) last week.
3. I have one leaky door, even after modding, which I'll replace when the replacement doors arrive. The top & bottom domes sealed pretty well. One of the 2 can sections sealed well, the other less so, right where the seam line is. Some foil tape can most likely fix this, and it wasn't a big deal for me in any event.
Now, it's time for supper - ribs while the brisket rests. Brisket trimming and slicing is still a job for me to finish tonight.
edit - had to fix my reference for the water pan technique
The ribs came out great BTW, the wife fixed ratatouille (sp?) with some fresh squash our neighbors gave us.
I can definitely see using this cooker with lump for overnight cooks of pork butt and / or smaller briskets _________________ Let's hope SoEzzy can ditch his heavy hand on photos in 2016!
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Smo-Ken BBQ Fan
Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 128 Location: Smokin' Up the California Delta
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Posted: Jun 15 2008 Post subject: |
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I caved and bought one of these yesterday, put it together last night, seasoned it this morning and just pulled a rack of ribs and a 3-1/2 lb boneless butt off a few minutes ago. I have to say that I am impressed with the performance! I have never used a WSM or a ProQ, but have experience with a variety of smokers and grills and this does serve it's purpose. I decided to get one to see if I liked the bullet-types instead of spending $200 or more on one only to find that they really aren't as great as they are supposed to be. I remeber using my ECB many years ago and it was a P.I.T.A. I have since settled on Weber kettles and my offset but since I have the bug now and one can never have enough toys, I fugured I'd give it a shot.
Long story short, while it is not quite what you would call "air-tight", it held rock steady temps for me all day long with minimal tending. I had no prob running it up to 325 or keeping it down to 225. Once the majority of the charcoal (I used Kingsford which I usually don't use but it is consistent so I felt it would be one "controlled" aspect of the evaluation) burned off the temp started to drop, but I attribute my difficulty to the fact taht this was my first burn with a bullet and after reading up I did not use enough of a charcoal load to start with. (My first attempt at a "Minion" burn!)
All in all, the ribs were fantastic and were gone in an instant with the butt being scarfed in sammy mode right after that.
This smoker was of much higher quality than I expected for the price, and I think with some minor tweaking will be a great addition to my ever-growing stable of smokers and will hold me over until the bigger ProQ's become available! _________________ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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necron 99 BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 2594 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Posted: Jun 15 2008 Post subject: |
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For under $100, this cooker has to be the best deal out there right now. While on sale anyway, it's right at the same price range out of the box as buying a Brinkmann Gourmet from Lowe's and applying mods based on the recent threads for that cooker. My OCC Rancher stockpile will stretch quite a bit longer using my BBQ Pro smoker for ribs & poultry instead of my small horizontal offset Bar-B-Chef. My BBQ Pro cooker is sized such that food grates from my Brinkmann Gourmet smoker are the same size as the food grates in my BBQ Pro model, so I'm confident other Brinkmann accessories for the ECB and Gourmet models will work well in my BBQ Pro smoker.
Recently, I've seen this BBQ Pro model pop up on the Shopzilla ad banner here at The Smoke Ring on various occassions when I come to this site. If I'd seen that before I bought mine, I would have clicked on that link so Garry would get some credit for the sale. Sears is pretty cool about buying on-line for in-store pickup, that's how I bought mine. Rather than make a special trip to Sears in my area (a 30+ mile drive in any direction for us), I just set my pickup at the store nearest to my Houston work site when I bought mine on-line during the Memorial Day 20% off sale, picked it up one evening after work, and brought it back home with me at the end of that week - no special extra trip needed!
The admin assistant at my Houston office is buying baby back ribs this week while they're on sale at Kroger and HEB there for me to pick up and bring back cooked for her. I'm set to find some Brinkmann Rib Racks this week at Academy (they're around $10 at Academy vs. $20 on-line) - I figure I can get 7 racks in my BBQ Pro smoker if I work it right.
Four racks of ribs would be bent into U-shapes in the two rib racks to make a larger S shape (see pic middle of this page).
http://www.amazingribs.com/tips_and_technique/bullet_smoker_setup.html
Then, I can set three racks of ribs cut in half in the cooker with four halves going in the remaining rib rack slots and one rack (two halves) laying bone-side down on my Brinkmann step-up grill from my Brinkmann Gourmet, hanging my step-up grill under my top food grate.
Brinkmann Step-up Grill _________________ Let's hope SoEzzy can ditch his heavy hand on photos in 2016!
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nes_matt BBQ Fan

Joined: 04 Jun 2008 Posts: 266
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Posted: Jun 21 2008 Post subject: |
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| nes_matt wrote: | | necron 99 wrote: | | OkieJay, sleecjr, and nes_matt have been using these longer than I have, you can do a 'search' for more of their posts. |
LOL!! Precisely a week longer for me!
I think it is pretty darn good for the $$, but I'm a newbie to this. Mine ran for ~6 hours without much tending. I had a little bit of a hard time getting the temp up over 225* on a windy day, but I think the water in the tray kind of limits it there. Next time I'm going to try sand instead of water. (as soon as the water ran out the temp spiked, so I think the water evaporation process limits the temperature effectively to ~225*.
All I can tell you is my wife was a little skeptical and now says I can Q whenever I want! This beats anything I can get in a restaurant in MA. |
OK, I know this thread is past it's prime, but I saw a WSM for the first time today. I have to say the quality is way higher than the Sears one. The difference was surprising. I'd still say if you want to limit your budget the Sears one is a good deal, but if I'd been able to see the two side by side I'd have ponied up the $$ for the WSM in an instant. |
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Burbs BBQ Fan

Joined: 31 Oct 2008 Posts: 363
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Posted: Dec 27 2008 Post subject: |
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Did Sears discontinue this? I can't find it on their website anymore. _________________ "Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner."
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NaughtyNurse BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Posts: 1015 Location: Winfield, KS
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I don't have your answer Burbs, was just gonna throw in that I could not find them on K-Marts website either. It's not looking good. _________________ Naughty Nurses BBQ
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allsmokenofire BBQ All Star

Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Posts: 5051 Location: Oklahoma
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Posted: Dec 28 2008 Post subject: |
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Probably a seasonal item. I'd look for it in the spring and wouldn't be at all surprised if they offered it in a 20" model instead of the 18". _________________ Mike
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ProBBQ BBQ Fan

Joined: 15 Sep 2006 Posts: 302 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Dec 30 2008 Post subject: |
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| allsmokenofire wrote: | | Probably a seasonal item. I'd look for it in the spring and wouldn't be at all surprised if they offered it in a 20" model instead of the 18". |
I'm hoping that they realised the error of their ways... cloning is not nice. _________________
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Alien BBQ BBQ All Star

Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 5426 Location: Roswell, New Mexico
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BBQMAN BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 15475 Location: Florida
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Posted: Dec 31 2008 Post subject: |
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| ProBBQ wrote: | | allsmokenofire wrote: | | Probably a seasonal item. I'd look for it in the spring and wouldn't be at all surprised if they offered it in a 20" model instead of the 18". |
I'm hoping that they realised the error of their ways... cloning is not nice. |
You guys build a better mousetrap (for the most part) over a WSM.
But what part of "cloning isn't nice" is it that you don't believe in!
I'll probably get one of these next spring for cooks at my sisters house- thanks for the reviews.
It won't get used very often, so the price is right.............................. _________________ BBQMAN
"I Turned A Hobby Into A Business".
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ProBBQ BBQ Fan

Joined: 15 Sep 2006 Posts: 302 Location: United Kingdom
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| BBQMAN wrote: | | ProBBQ wrote: | | allsmokenofire wrote: | | Probably a seasonal item. I'd look for it in the spring and wouldn't be at all surprised if they offered it in a 20" model instead of the 18". |
I'm hoping that they realised the error of their ways... cloning is not nice. |
You guys build a better mousetrap (for the most part) over a WSM.
But what part of "cloning isn't nice" is it that you don't believe in!
I'll probably get one of these next spring for cooks at my sisters house- thanks for the reviews.
It won't get used very often, so the price is right.............................. |
It would be ok if they improved upon what was there, rather than going the "cheap and nasty" route  _________________
Stacked & Smokin Hot!
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BBQMAN BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 15475 Location: Florida
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My catering would be a lot busier if people didn't go the "cheap and nasty route".  _________________ BBQMAN
"I Turned A Hobby Into A Business".
Providing "IMHO" Since 2005. |
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smoke51 BBQ Fan
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 131 Location: SE Charlotte, NC
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| ProBBQ wrote: | | BBQMAN wrote: | | ProBBQ wrote: | | allsmokenofire wrote: | | Probably a seasonal item. I'd look for it in the spring and wouldn't be at all surprised if they offered it in a 20" model instead of the 18". |
I'm hoping that they realised the error of their ways... cloning is not nice. |
You guys build a better mousetrap (for the most part) over a WSM.
But what part of "cloning isn't nice" is it that you don't believe in!
I'll probably get one of these next spring for cooks at my sisters house- thanks for the reviews.
It won't get used very often, so the price is right.............................. |
It would be ok if they improved upon what was there, rather than going the "cheap and nasty" route  |
quick and nasty is about right. it doesnt fit together that well and its thin metal. but for what it costs it works....it actually works much better than my CG with SFB.
but after i got the excel 20 for christmas i got to looking at both of them side by side and the excel is way nicer (but after seeing and feeling the excel 20 the extra money is worth it, imho). i could actually cook my sears bbq pro cooker in the excel 20 with the extra stacker on it....wouldnt that be a nice picture. _________________ ProQ Excel 20
CG with sfb and a few mods
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charbroiler professional series stainless gas grill
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maldito2
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| Burbs wrote: | | Did Sears discontinue this? I can't find it on their website anymore. |
No they didn't.I saw a couple on the sales floor of two local sears stores. They were only 17" diameter and kind of thin skined. Easily scratched. But for less than $70 It might be a good deal for someone just getting into BBQ and not sure of what they want yet. |
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Alien BBQ BBQ All Star

Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 5426 Location: Roswell, New Mexico
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| BBQMAN wrote: | | ProBBQ wrote: | | allsmokenofire wrote: | | Probably a seasonal item. I'd look for it in the spring and wouldn't be at all surprised if they offered it in a 20" model instead of the 18". |
I'm hoping that they realised the error of their ways... cloning is not nice. |
You guys build a better mousetrap (for the most part) over a WSM.
But what part of "cloning isn't nice" is it that you don't believe in!
I'll probably get one of these next spring for cooks at my sisters house- thanks for the reviews.
It won't get used very often, so the price is right.............................. |
Cheap and nasty! I did it because it was there
Actually because I thought it needed to be done and I have a BBQ equipment budget. Seriously, With this now bringing my stable up to 12 pieces of equipment, I find myself throwing this in the Expedition to take over to my daughters house because I didn't want to lug around the other cookers. Cooks fairly good but really shines as a turkey fryer or gas cooker when using my Dutch Oven. _________________ https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaeloberry |
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