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tasman
Joined: 02 Mar 2008 Posts: 7
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Posted: Mar 28 2008 Post subject: Turning Plates |
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I just have to ask This... What is a Turning Plate and when and why would you need one? I have seen on here your guys taking about them but I have never seen one...?
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Kevin Opp
Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 6
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Posted: Mar 28 2008 Post subject: |
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| I believe you are talking about a tuning plate? Certainly don't know much but I believe they are positioned between the firebox inlet and the cooking surface, and span the entire length of the smoker. They are used to create an even temperature throughout the entire smoker. The spacing of these plates has something to do with it. Not an expert. I am fixing to build my own smoker for the first time and have been reading nonstop about this crap... |
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Reggae Q BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 1880 Location: St. Louis, MO
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Posted: Mar 28 2008 Post subject: |
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Yes. Tuning Plates.
Anyone can correct me if I'm incorrect but here goes.
They are thick pieces of metal in measured sizes depending on your smoker. The first one is welded where the firebox comes in and the rest remain freestanding and can be moved left, right, butt together, etc...so heat can travel underneath/above and but basically disapate (???) the heat so you don't have a variance of say 50* from left to right. So, you will move them to where it gives you the most consistent heat as every cooker is different which could mean spaces in 1 & 2 with 3 butted, etc...So, you basically will play with them till you get the correct "tuning"
Someone here probably has some pics on hand |
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Bushbow BBQ Fan
Joined: 12 Sep 2007 Posts: 110 Location: Fowlerville, MI
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Posted: Mar 28 2008 Post subject: |
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Here are my tuning plates and yes they are all removable and help move the heat evenly throughout the cooker.
I leave the first one or two tight against the firebox side and then space them farther apart as they move to the exhaust end.
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wnkt BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 1329 Location: Upstate South Carolina
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Posted: Mar 29 2008 Post subject: |
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in short...they are used to evenly distribute the heat and smoke inside the smoker....so there are no hot spots. _________________ Electricity can be dangerous. My nephew tried to stick a penny into a plug. Whoever said a penny doesn't go far didn't see him shoot across that floor. I told him he was grounded. - Tim Allen |
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SmokinQ Newbie
Joined: 03 May 2007 Posts: 56 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mar 31 2008 Post subject: |
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| On trailer mounted smokers that people take off to competitions or catering events do these plates have a tendency to move with the bouncing and jostling of the highway? Do you need to check them after moving and firing up or are they just to heavy to move? |
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Reggae Q BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 1880 Location: St. Louis, MO
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Posted: Mar 31 2008 Post subject: |
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| SmokinQ wrote: | | On trailer mounted smokers that people take off to competitions or catering events do these plates have a tendency to move with the bouncing and jostling of the highway? Do you need to check them after moving and firing up or are they just to heavy to move? |
No, they're not too heavy to move. On my Lonestar, I know exactly where they should be so if they move, I just put them back. |
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Nate_bone BBQ Fan
Joined: 15 Dec 2007 Posts: 103
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Posted: Apr 01 2008 Post subject: |
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| I've seen a few pictures from folks on the ring that have some means of keeping them in one spot, be it welding or a system of bolts or clamps. That's what I plan to do the next time I build an offset, use a home-made c-clamp sort of device. |
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mattycamp BBQ Pro

Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 630 Location: Little Rock
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Posted: Apr 01 2008 Post subject: |
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| Nate_bone wrote: | | I've seen a few pictures from folks on the ring that have some means of keeping them in one spot, be it welding or a system of bolts or clamps. That's what I plan to do the next time I build an offset, use a home-made c-clamp sort of device. |
Why? _________________ Matt
24x96 Lone Star Custom by Bates |
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Nate_bone BBQ Fan
Joined: 15 Dec 2007 Posts: 103
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Posted: Apr 01 2008 Post subject: |
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| Makes it adjustable. Say, for instance, that I want to cook several things that require different temperatures, but need them to come out at the same time (and I only have the one smoker). Then I can take the plates out completely, or adjust them to create temperature "zones" so that all my food gets done correctly. Of course, this would mean really knowing your smoker extremely well, and having everything else rather consistent. The other thing I've seen is to have a setup that can be converted to reverse flow by scooting a few plates over and opening a second chimney at the firebox end. |
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mattycamp BBQ Pro

Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 630 Location: Little Rock
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Posted: Apr 01 2008 Post subject: |
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| Nate_bone wrote: | | Makes it adjustable. Say, for instance, that I want to cook several things that require different temperatures, but need them to come out at the same time (and I only have the one smoker). Then I can take the plates out completely, or adjust them to create temperature "zones" so that all my food gets done correctly. Of course, this would mean really knowing your smoker extremely well, and having everything else rather consistent. The other thing I've seen is to have a setup that can be converted to reverse flow by scooting a few plates over and opening a second chimney at the firebox end. |
Yeah, but even those of those who have free-floating plates can do all of those things. I can move them around to create zones and, if my smoker had the second chimney, I could slide them all together, too. I guess my question is more "why bother with c-clamps if you know your smoker well enough to know how to move the plates and create zones?" _________________ Matt
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Reggae Q BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 1880 Location: St. Louis, MO
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Posted: Apr 01 2008 Post subject: |
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| I think he's implying (I could be wrong) that they will adjust them to where they need to be and secure them before driving the the gig. Like I said, I could be wrong |
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mattycamp BBQ Pro

Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 630 Location: Little Rock
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Posted: Apr 01 2008 Post subject: |
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| Reggae Q wrote: | | I think he's implying (I could be wrong) that they will adjust them to where they need to be and secure them before driving the the gig. Like I said, I could be wrong |
Ah...that would at least make sense. Though I would suggest that, if you know your pit well enough that you can create temperature zones, you should also know it well enough to know where the plates go if they happen to move a bit in transit. _________________ Matt
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zilla BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 1190 Location: Universal City, Texas
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Posted: Apr 01 2008 Post subject: |
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| Reggae Q wrote: | | I think he's implying (I could be wrong) that they will adjust them to where they need to be and secure them before driving the the gig. Like I said, I could be wrong |
No you're right. They should lock in place once tuned so you don't have to tune it when you get to your destination. It takes some time to dial it in. _________________ Zilla
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zilla BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 1190 Location: Universal City, Texas
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Posted: Apr 01 2008 Post subject: |
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| mattycamp wrote: | | Reggae Q wrote: | | I think he's implying (I could be wrong) that they will adjust them to where they need to be and secure them before driving the the gig. Like I said, I could be wrong |
Ah...that would at least make sense. Though I would suggest that, if you know your pit well enough that you can create temperature zones, you should also know it well enough to know where the plates go if they happen to move a bit in transit. |
Why would you want to mess around with that at a comp? I wouldn't. If they are locked down it's a done deal. _________________ Zilla
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Nate_bone BBQ Fan
Joined: 15 Dec 2007 Posts: 103
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Posted: Apr 01 2008 Post subject: |
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| Sure, if you're at a competition, that's probably not the place to mess with it. But for those of us that don't compete, it's likely to be a part of the never-ending quest to create the best Q possible. And I just happen to like to tinker with stuff (which is kind of what got me hooked on all this anyway). |
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mattycamp BBQ Pro

Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 630 Location: Little Rock
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Posted: Apr 01 2008 Post subject: |
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| zilla wrote: | | mattycamp wrote: | | Reggae Q wrote: | | I think he's implying (I could be wrong) that they will adjust them to where they need to be and secure them before driving the the gig. Like I said, I could be wrong |
Ah...that would at least make sense. Though I would suggest that, if you know your pit well enough that you can create temperature zones, you should also know it well enough to know where the plates go if they happen to move a bit in transit. |
Why would you want to mess around with that at a comp? I wouldn't. If they are locked down it's a done deal. |
It's not like we are talking about tuning it from scratch. For instance, I moved my plates right back to where steve showed me when I picked it up and I was immediately back in tune. _________________ Matt
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swampcook BBQ Fan

Joined: 16 Apr 2006 Posts: 156 Location: LOUISIANA
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Posted: Apr 02 2008 Post subject: |
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So let me get this right.
The first ones are actually covering up (sitting on top of the burner hole) so the heat is forced to travel in towards the exhaust and then adjust the other plates to allow some of the heat to rise up between them. Which will allow the heat to be equally distributed? is that right. Of course the plates also give off heat themselves with the heat traveling under them. On my brinkman PMD, if I have a baffle and if I put a tuning plate over the baffle and them played with the others I would eventually get a more even temp. Is that correct?
The problem with my brinkman is the burner opening is quite high and the tuning plates would be pretty close to the grill level. I will have to ponder on this for awhile. _________________ From the department of the redundancy department |
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Nate_bone BBQ Fan
Joined: 15 Dec 2007 Posts: 103
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Posted: Apr 03 2008 Post subject: |
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| On my offset that I built, I used the baffle to lower the height needed for the tuning plates when they get installed. Since my baffle is pretty good sized, it brings the height needed for the tuning plates down by quite a bit. Of course, I don't know if I'll need to modify it to make it actually work with the tuning plates. Hopefully I'll find out this summer. |
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mattycamp BBQ Pro

Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 630 Location: Little Rock
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Posted: Apr 03 2008 Post subject: |
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| swampcook wrote: | So let me get this right.
The first ones are actually covering up (sitting on top of the burner hole) so the heat is forced to travel in towards the exhaust and then adjust the other plates to allow some of the heat to rise up between them. Which will allow the heat to be equally distributed? is that right. Of course the plates also give off heat themselves with the heat traveling under them. On my brinkman PMD, if I have a baffle and if I put a tuning plate over the baffle and them played with the others I would eventually get a more even temp. Is that correct?
The problem with my brinkman is the burner opening is quite high and the tuning plates would be pretty close to the grill level. I will have to ponder on this for awhile. |
In my old Char-Broil, which had a high opening from the firebox, I lined the bottom of the smoke chamber with fire bricks and then used a couple water pans as a pseudo tuning plate system. It wasn't perfect, but it got both ends within 8 degrees. I'll try to take some pics and post them for you. _________________ Matt
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