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PostPosted: Feb 20 2008    Post subject: Brisket! I need some opinions Reply with quote

Ok folks,

I smoked my first brisket today. I had a 6 pound piece, that I cut in half. I used a rub from a Kingford book. I am not impressed with the results. I am happier with that piece than I am with the second choice. With the second cut, I used a simple rub of, garlic powder, onion powder, cumin, seasoned salt, fresh ground pepper, and then I stuffed the meat with about 14 cloves of garlic. I personally did not care for the later. Here is my question to the masters. Which way should I go, Savory, or Heat and Sweet? I have asked this before in another post, but after my results today, I am asking again, but with more knowledge. What are your opinions?

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PostPosted: Feb 20 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

What were you not happy with, the taste or the texture? I think the most important thing for a good brisket is cooking it to the correct "doneness". 190' is a good internal temp to shoot for, but I like to take it off once it is fork tender.

Some of the best briskets I have ever cooked simply had salt and pepper on them. To me the smoke and the correct texture is what makes a brisket good.
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PostPosted: Feb 20 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try a salt, cracked pepper and garlic powder dusting and make sure when you put the fork in to test for done-ness the fork slides in and if you twist it barely resists you.

Get the done-ness right and it will all taste fantastic, no matter what you put on the outside.
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PostPosted: Feb 20 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep. Start out with simple seasonings as SoEzzzy suggests. Then if you think you still need something you can always add stuff untill you achieve the flavor you want.
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PostPosted: Feb 20 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salt and pepper and a little garlic. I would not stuff garlic into the brisket. Low and slow until its done. It takes a long time for a brisket. I usually do 12-15 lb. briskets and it takes about 16 hours at 250 to get fork tender. Was the brisket dry? 3 lbs may be a little small and I am not sure how much fat you had left on it when you put it in.

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I agree w/ previous postes. Simplicity is a good thing. You see some of these rubs w/ so many ingredients it looks like some mad science project. Compliment the great flavor of the Beef, dont cover it w/ a 50 item rub. Salt/pepper/onion powder/ garlic powder, you can always add more. Brisket can be a challenge, especially your first few. After you nail it, its quite rewarding. Id use a whole packer and not just a flat.
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PostPosted: Feb 20 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

gpalasz wrote:
I agree w/ previous postes. Simplicity is a good thing. You see some of these rubs w/ so many ingredients it looks like some mad science project. Compliment the great flavor of the Beef, dont cover it w/ a 50 item rub. Salt/pepper/onion powder/ garlic powder, you can always add more. Brisket can be a challenge, especially your first few. After you nail it, its quite rewarding. Id use a whole packer and not just a flat.


I have yet to do a whole one but it is next on my list. I have done flats but they came out dry and not as tender as I'd hoped.
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You will love the packer, makes a big difference in the end product, at least it does for me. More fat. more tender. I would get like a 10-11lber or so for the first one. Let us know how it goes.
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PostPosted: Feb 20 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys,
The texture was perfect. I smoked it for about 10 hours at about 215, maybe it is something that I will need to get used to, I am more of a pork person.
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PostPosted: Feb 21 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

That may of been a little long and a little too low of a temp. I prefer 250-265. Everyone has there own preference though
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PostPosted: Feb 21 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, 10 hours at 215 sounds like a long time for 2 3lb chunks of brisket flat. I cook 10lb packers for 10 hours at 235ish.

Next time, get a full packer if you can, but whether it is a packer or a flat do not split it. Rub it with some salt and pepper, and maybe garlic and/or onion powder if you like. Cook that sucker between 225-250, you can use an hour a pound for a guideline at those temps. Get you a meat thermometer, and start checking the internal temp of the brisket after 7 hours or so. Your shooting for 185-195 internal temperature of the meat. I start using the fork test at 185 and pull it off when I like the results, but its kinda hard to explain, you will learn with practice. Basically, I like the fork to go in with little resistance, give it a little twist, and then pull out with little resistance. Another good sign your brisket is ready, slap it! It will give a nice "jello-y" giggle when its done.

What kind of smoker are you using? What kind of smoke wood are you using? Like I said before, the smoky juicyness of a tender brisket is what makes it the king of BBQ here in Texas Cool
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