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ritebike
Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Posts: 9
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Posted: Feb 20 2008 Post subject: Brisket! I need some opinions |
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Ok folks,
I smoked my first brisket today. I had a 6 pound piece, that I cut in half. I used a rub from a Kingford book. I am not impressed with the results. I am happier with that piece than I am with the second choice. With the second cut, I used a simple rub of, garlic powder, onion powder, cumin, seasoned salt, fresh ground pepper, and then I stuffed the meat with about 14 cloves of garlic. I personally did not care for the later. Here is my question to the masters. Which way should I go, Savory, or Heat and Sweet? I have asked this before in another post, but after my results today, I am asking again, but with more knowledge. What are your opinions?
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jrb03 BBQ Fan

Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Posts: 186 Location: Tx
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What were you not happy with, the taste or the texture? I think the most important thing for a good brisket is cooking it to the correct "doneness". 190' is a good internal temp to shoot for, but I like to take it off once it is fork tender.
Some of the best briskets I have ever cooked simply had salt and pepper on them. To me the smoke and the correct texture is what makes a brisket good. _________________ Pitmaker Vault
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SoEzzy BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 13183 Location: SLC, UT
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Try a salt, cracked pepper and garlic powder dusting and make sure when you put the fork in to test for done-ness the fork slides in and if you twist it barely resists you.
Get the done-ness right and it will all taste fantastic, no matter what you put on the outside. _________________ Here's a change Robert.
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Doc1680 BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 2609 Location: Indianapolis
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Yep. Start out with simple seasonings as SoEzzzy suggests. Then if you think you still need something you can always add stuff untill you achieve the flavor you want. _________________ Love the voodoo that Q do.
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saltwatercowboy BBQ Fan

Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 214 Location: Canton, GA
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Salt and pepper and a little garlic. I would not stuff garlic into the brisket. Low and slow until its done. It takes a long time for a brisket. I usually do 12-15 lb. briskets and it takes about 16 hours at 250 to get fork tender. Was the brisket dry? 3 lbs may be a little small and I am not sure how much fat you had left on it when you put it in.
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gpalasz BBQ Super Fan
Joined: 16 Mar 2007 Posts: 466 Location: Moore, Oklahoma
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I agree w/ previous postes. Simplicity is a good thing. You see some of these rubs w/ so many ingredients it looks like some mad science project. Compliment the great flavor of the Beef, dont cover it w/ a 50 item rub. Salt/pepper/onion powder/ garlic powder, you can always add more. Brisket can be a challenge, especially your first few. After you nail it, its quite rewarding. Id use a whole packer and not just a flat. _________________ Team Diamondback Q
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Big B BBQ Fan

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| gpalasz wrote: | | I agree w/ previous postes. Simplicity is a good thing. You see some of these rubs w/ so many ingredients it looks like some mad science project. Compliment the great flavor of the Beef, dont cover it w/ a 50 item rub. Salt/pepper/onion powder/ garlic powder, you can always add more. Brisket can be a challenge, especially your first few. After you nail it, its quite rewarding. Id use a whole packer and not just a flat. |
I have yet to do a whole one but it is next on my list. I have done flats but they came out dry and not as tender as I'd hoped. |
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gpalasz BBQ Super Fan
Joined: 16 Mar 2007 Posts: 466 Location: Moore, Oklahoma
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You will love the packer, makes a big difference in the end product, at least it does for me. More fat. more tender. I would get like a 10-11lber or so for the first one. Let us know how it goes. _________________ Team Diamondback Q
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ritebike
Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Posts: 9
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Thanks guys,
The texture was perfect. I smoked it for about 10 hours at about 215, maybe it is something that I will need to get used to, I am more of a pork person. |
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gpalasz BBQ Super Fan
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That may of been a little long and a little too low of a temp. I prefer 250-265. Everyone has there own preference though _________________ Team Diamondback Q
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jrb03 BBQ Fan

Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Posts: 186 Location: Tx
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I agree, 10 hours at 215 sounds like a long time for 2 3lb chunks of brisket flat. I cook 10lb packers for 10 hours at 235ish.
Next time, get a full packer if you can, but whether it is a packer or a flat do not split it. Rub it with some salt and pepper, and maybe garlic and/or onion powder if you like. Cook that sucker between 225-250, you can use an hour a pound for a guideline at those temps. Get you a meat thermometer, and start checking the internal temp of the brisket after 7 hours or so. Your shooting for 185-195 internal temperature of the meat. I start using the fork test at 185 and pull it off when I like the results, but its kinda hard to explain, you will learn with practice. Basically, I like the fork to go in with little resistance, give it a little twist, and then pull out with little resistance. Another good sign your brisket is ready, slap it! It will give a nice "jello-y" giggle when its done.
What kind of smoker are you using? What kind of smoke wood are you using? Like I said before, the smoky juicyness of a tender brisket is what makes it the king of BBQ here in Texas  _________________ Pitmaker Vault
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