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BigHomie
Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 22 Location: Cypress, TEXAS
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Posted: Feb 06 2008 Post subject: spring creek bbq |
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these are popular in the dallas area and they recently opened one about 10 minutes from my house.....avoid them like the plague....i would eat a bolognie sammich before i go back to this place....the brisket tasted like it was baked in the oven or cooked wrapped in tin foil, i don't know which is worse!
it just goes to show that dallas sucks, we just need to deed it over to oklahoma and be done with it _________________ Texas, by God!...the rest doesn't really matter |
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txbbqman BBQ Fan

Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 159 Location: Katy, TX
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Posted: Feb 06 2008 Post subject: |
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| hey big homie you sound like you know what ur talking 'bout.... i heard those places are terrible not real Texas bbq......... and yea Dallas sucks, and doesn't offer much quality Q anyway |
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Hoochie-Que BBQ Fan

Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 371 Location: Park City, UT
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Posted: Feb 06 2008 Post subject: |
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Now, now... You two "U-ston" boys be nice now... The original Spring Creek up in the Richardson/Plano area was pretty darn good... Of course, that was over 20 years ago, and I haven't been living in the Dallas area for 10 years now... That they may have lost some quality as they have franchised and grown is not too surprising... I rarely have seen an "original" successfully duplicate itself... Sonny Bryant's, Rudy's - I have eaten at the "originals" and they were great... Subsequent stores never seemed anywhere near as good, though...
Seems like there was a BBQ outfit out of Houston years ago - Luther's - which sucked wind pretty darn good, too... Although the "original" must have had something going for it at some point for somebody to get the hot idea they could duplicate it elsewhere...
I will grant you Big D could use some more and better Que joints... Especially those that aren't chain/franchise... But tell me a major city in Texas that couldn't...
As to deeding Dallas over to Oklahoma, I think there is a better chance we will see Houston sink into the Gulf first (and it is my understanding H-town is indeed heading that direction!)
BTW, BigHomie... From another thread, I can go with you on your recommendation of New Zion and Meyers... But Cooper's in Llano? My last meal there last summer was one of the worst BBQ meals I have ever had.. Made a 7-11 "Hot-To-Go" look gourmet... I am figuring/hoping it was an "off-day" for them... I was there first thing for lunch one day, so it wasn't because it was late in the day... I'd rank Smitty's, Kreuz Market, and Country Tavern in Kilgore (deep East Texas) way in front of Coopers...
Dr. Mike
Native Texan _________________ Dr. Mike
Hoochie-Que BBQ Team / KCBS CBJ
"Jesus Loved Barbeque, Too" - Kinky Friedman |
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JamesB BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 2406 Location: Irving, Tx
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Posted: Feb 06 2008 Post subject: |
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I thought we gave Houston to Louisiana?
I do agree with ya on the Spring Creek deal though... Last time I went there (a few years ago), they were pulling grey (boiled?) ribs out of a cooler and were warming and saucing them on a char grill... gross...
James. _________________
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BigHomie
Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 22 Location: Cypress, TEXAS
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Posted: Feb 07 2008 Post subject: |
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it has been awhile since i went to cooper's so maybe the quality has gone down?
and trust me, i don't like houston any more than the next guy but it is where i have to live for now until we make our move to austin
the sad this i have never been to kreuz market or anywhere in lockhart for that matter _________________ Texas, by God!...the rest doesn't really matter |
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BigHomie
Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 22 Location: Cypress, TEXAS
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Posted: Feb 07 2008 Post subject: |
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oh and luther's sucked from day one _________________ Texas, by God!...the rest doesn't really matter |
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BigHomie
Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 22 Location: Cypress, TEXAS
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Posted: Feb 07 2008 Post subject: |
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i am being nice about spring creek, you should have heard what my wife said about it!
and i was just kidding about dallas, i like dallas but i prefer ft. worth
and speaking of ft. worth, i ate at a bbq place in the stockyards last summer and i had the WORST beef ribs ever!! it was like gnawing on an old burned up piece of saddle leather. one of the guys with me agreed that they were terrible but he was gonna show me that he could eat more than i could. they were all you can eat for $10. i told him to be my guest, i would rather eat stewed possum than another plate of those ribs. _________________ Texas, by God!...the rest doesn't really matter |
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txbbqman BBQ Fan

Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 159 Location: Katy, TX
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Posted: Feb 07 2008 Post subject: |
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| ft. worth has better BBQ than Dallas...... Dallas Q is like the rest of the city, real commercial and not much behind, now there ladies do have bigger hair than anywhere else.... in Ft. Worth Railhead BBQ is pretty good.... Houston Q is better than both, but the best area in the state or the world thats is the best is central Texas.......I'll say this, at least all these places r in Texas so that makes them better than almost all the other places in other states..... yall know Texas folks think a lot of ourselves..... |
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Texman BBQ Pro
Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 831 Location: Del Rio, TX
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Posted: Feb 07 2008 Post subject: |
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| Hoochie-Que wrote: |
... But Cooper's in Llano? My last meal there last summer was one of the worst BBQ meals I have ever had.. Made a 7-11 "Hot-To-Go" look gourmet... I am figuring/hoping it was an "off-day" for them... I was there first thing for lunch one day, so it wasn't because it was late in the day... I'd rank Smitty's, Kreuz Market, and Country Tavern in Kilgore (deep East Texas) way in front of Coopers...
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Part of the off and on problem with Cooper’s is an issue most Q joints have to deal with: “What’s the run going to be today, a noon and supper?” Instead of donating fully cooked Q to a food bank for full retail tax credit they attempt to carry it over to capture income. Used to they would have product Q’d to a point that within ± 30 min. it could be ready to meet the run, or carry it over to the next meal. Sooner or later this comes back to bite a Q joint’s reputation. Secondly is the lack of the owner being on site on a normal basis. |
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Hoochie-Que BBQ Fan

Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 371 Location: Park City, UT
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| Texman wrote: | | Part of the off and on problem with Cooper’s is an issue most Q joints have to deal with: “What’s the run going to be today, a noon and supper?” Instead of donating fully cooked Q to a food bank for full retail tax credit they attempt to carry it over to capture income. Used to they would have product Q’d to a point that within ± 30 min. it could be ready to meet the run, or carry it over to the next meal. Sooner or later this comes back to bite a Q joint’s reputation. Secondly is the lack of the owner being on site on a normal basis. |
Well, that certainly might explain my "experience" that day... We made a special effort as we were heading from West Texas to San Antonio to head through Llano just to eat there... Even my kids turned up their nose at the Que that day, and were begging me to stop by a Whataburger not long after we left... (And not that that was a bad thing - burgers from a chain operation don't get much better than Whataburger anyway, IMHO...)
I know trying to "calculate" a lunch or dinner run is tough... Like you, I'd sure prefer they give it to a food bank versus carry it over... Some of the best Que joints I have ever been to cooked only what they cared to cook that day - and when they ran out, they shut the doors and went home! I realize that is a little hard to do if you are a bigger/chain operation.... But it also might have a lot to do with why sometimes the food in smaller joints is sometimes so much better/fresher...
Good lesson to be learned/remembered here perhaps for all Que restaurants - to call ahead and find out when the meat for that day is coming off the smoker... And then plan your visit/meal accordingly!!
Dr. Mike _________________ Dr. Mike
Hoochie-Que BBQ Team / KCBS CBJ
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Texman BBQ Pro
Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 831 Location: Del Rio, TX
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Posted: Feb 08 2008 Post subject: |
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With Cooper’s you are looking at your meat selection, while still on the pit. What we’ve learned to do is, after looking, is to specifically say ‘this meat is carried over (if it is), we want fresh Q from today’. The first time we did this it got their attention ‘cause there were other customers that overheard, which was not our intent, but couldn’t be prevented.
We’ve also misjudged their big chop as being freshly Q’d – it wasn’t and sent it back for a replacement.
In serving line Q places we do the same thing. In Q places where they bring it to you, and sense we are paying customers, we’ll send it back for a replacement.
The above may sound hoarse, but it makes a Q place take notice of their error of us paying them. |
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