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PostPosted: Jan 19 2008    Post subject: THREE pound baby backs???? Reply with quote

A local micro-brewery has opened and decided to see BBQ (cooking on a Southern Pride) to go along with his brew..

On his website http://speedwaybrewing.com/ he CLAIMS to have THREE pound baby back ribs. Shocked Shocked

We sell the biggest baby backs in town.
The chains sell 1.5 to 1.75 lb racks, ours average 3 lbs


I have been barbecuing a long time and although I will be the first to admit that I haven't seen everything nor know everything...I have never seen or heard of THREE pound baby back ribs.. Rolling Eyes Shocked

Now that being said...I know there are some BIG babies born (not sure about BIG baby pigs.. Laughing ) but......
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PostPosted: Jan 19 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are Pork Loin ribs and a large part of the loin has been left on the cut.
I get them all the time here from a local butcher.
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I agree w/ Megla...we got a meat market here that will cut them that way too.

My experience w/ them has not been favorable. You get 2 different types of meat on the slab, the rib meat and the extra loin meat that's left on. The loin meat starts to dry out past 160* and the rib meat doesn't start getting tender until 20*-25* or so past that. I've cooked them to where the rib meat was tender and the loin meat was dried out and a little chewy, and I've cooked them to where the loin meat was perfect, but the rib meat was tough, but I never could figure out how to get both done the way I wanted.

....but that's just me. Wink
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PostPosted: Jan 19 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Megla wrote:
They are Pork Loin ribs and a large part of the loin has been left on the cut.
I get them all the time here from a local butcher.


I guess it is all in what you can get away with... Baby Backs
A term used to describe the size of a Loin Back Rib. Unfortunately, many times the term is applied to any size Loin Back Rib. A true Baby Back Rib is 1 3/4 lb. or lighter.


Like calling flank steak served in a tortilla a Fajita when in fact a "TRUE" Fajita is served with Skirt stealk...

OR better yet....Calling "boneless ribs" a rib... Rolling Eyes Still haven't figured that one out.. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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allsmokenofire wrote:
I agree w/ Megla...we got a meat market here that will cut them that way too.

My experience w/ them has not been favorable. You get 2 different types of meat on the slab, the rib meat and the extra loin meat that's left on. The loin meat starts to dry out past 160* and the rib meat doesn't start getting tender until 20*-25* or so past that. I've cooked them to where the rib meat was tender and the loin meat was dried out and a little chewy, and I've cooked them to where the loin meat was perfect, but the rib meat was tough, but I never could figure out how to get both done the way I wanted.

....but that's just me. Wink


I have to brine them in order to keep the loin moist.
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Megla wrote:
allsmokenofire wrote:
I agree w/ Megla...we got a meat market here that will cut them that way too.

My experience w/ them has not been favorable. You get 2 different types of meat on the slab, the rib meat and the extra loin meat that's left on. The loin meat starts to dry out past 160* and the rib meat doesn't start getting tender until 20*-25* or so past that. I've cooked them to where the rib meat was tender and the loin meat was dried out and a little chewy, and I've cooked them to where the loin meat was perfect, but the rib meat was tough, but I never could figure out how to get both done the way I wanted.

....but that's just me. Wink


I have to brine them in order to keep the loin moist.


Good idea....never thought of that.
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Thanks guys.....are these ribs generally more expensive than regular spare ribs??

I think in all my years of catering, I have only been asked to cook baby back ribs once...that was for a Christmas party and they wanted the most expensive thing on my menu Shocked
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I don't usually get ribs out at restaurants. I don't know about the menu, but the beer sounds pretty good! What kind of hours are these? I just can't imagine getting shoo-ed out of a bar at 10:00 on a saturday night. I do some of my best drinking on thursday night. "Sorry sir, it's 8:00, u have to leave. They start flashing the lights at 7:30? "Last call!"
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PostPosted: Jan 19 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I agree w/ Megla...we got a meat market here that will cut them that way too.

My experience w/ them has not been favorable. You get 2 different types of meat on the slab, the rib meat and the extra loin meat that's left on. The loin meat starts to dry out past 160* and the rib meat doesn't start getting tender until 20*-25* or so past that. I've cooked them to where the rib meat was tender and the loin meat was dried out and a little chewy, and I've cooked them to where the loin meat was perfect, but the rib meat was tough, but I never could figure out how to get both done the way I wanted.


The PNWBA had a charity rib challenge cookoff at the Kenmore Safeway last year and Safeway provided the ribs. As meaty as they were the taste and texture wasn't the same. Almost like a confused chewey pork chop. At first I thought my Q was way off my game, but after talking and tasting the other teams ribs they were no different than mine. As for price the general manager said they were quite a bit more expensive and only special ordered them for that cookoff...He does not Q.

I wouldn't worry about it too much Marv. If I were to order these, I'm sure they would be expensive but having eatin lots of ribs before I would be dissapointed. I think it would be like ordering an expensive ribeye steak and they cooked it to death!

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PostPosted: Jan 19 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

marvsbbq wrote:
Thanks guys.....are these ribs generally more expensive than regular spare ribs??

I think in all my years of catering, I have only been asked to cook baby back ribs once...that was for a Christmas party and they wanted the most expensive thing on my menu Shocked



Price per lb is more expensive. Usually 3.99 - 4.99lb around here. Spares are normally 1.99lb.
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PostPosted: Jan 19 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get them for 4.39 a pound loin on

You can get BB in a 3 pack for 2.68 a pound at Sams
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PostPosted: Jan 19 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

marvsbbq wrote:
Megla wrote:
They are Pork Loin ribs and a large part of the loin has been left on the cut.
I get them all the time here from a local butcher.


I guess it is all in what you can get away with... Baby Backs
A term used to describe the size of a Loin Back Rib. Unfortunately, many times the term is applied to any size Loin Back Rib. A true Baby Back Rib is 1 3/4 lb. or lighter.


Like calling flank steak served in a tortilla a Fajita when in fact a "TRUE" Fajita is served with Skirt stealk...

OR better yet....Calling "boneless ribs" a rib... Rolling Eyes Still haven't figured that one out.. Laughing Laughing Laughing


Is this kinda like a true prime rib being a rib roast that is graded prime?

but now folks just refer to any rib roast as a prime rib...
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PostPosted: Jan 19 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

DawgPhan wrote:
marvsbbq wrote:
Megla wrote:
They are Pork Loin ribs and a large part of the loin has been left on the cut.
I get them all the time here from a local butcher.


I guess it is all in what you can get away with... Baby Backs
A term used to describe the size of a Loin Back Rib. Unfortunately, many times the term is applied to any size Loin Back Rib. A true Baby Back Rib is 1 3/4 lb. or lighter.


Like calling flank steak served in a tortilla a Fajita when in fact a "TRUE" Fajita is served with Skirt stealk...

OR better yet....Calling "boneless ribs" a rib... Rolling Eyes Still haven't figured that one out.. Laughing Laughing Laughing


Is this kinda like a true prime rib being a rib roast that is graded prime?

but now folks just refer to any rib roast as a prime rib...


Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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I've been able to get 3 lb racks of pork loin back ribs (supermarket label baby back ribs) for $2.99 / lb when on sale in this area - regular price is $5.99 / lb for these here.

I've had best results using a 2-2-1 (or so) method with no rub or marinade, then basting the racks with a fruit based vinegarette each hour before foiling.

Whole Foods also has these, price in this area was $9.29 / lb. last time I looked there Shocked

edit - added pics

This pair from Winn Dixie when on BOGO - effective price $3.02 / lb


This slightly lighter pair from Matherne's when on sale @ $2.99 / lb.


Here's some results I've had with similar size racks.
http://www.thesmokering.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12162&highlight=
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allsmokenofire wrote:
Megla wrote:
allsmokenofire wrote:
I agree w/ Megla...we got a meat market here that will cut them that way too.

My experience w/ them has not been favorable. You get 2 different types of meat on the slab, the rib meat and the extra loin meat that's left on. The loin meat starts to dry out past 160* and the rib meat doesn't start getting tender until 20*-25* or so past that. I've cooked them to where the rib meat was tender and the loin meat was dried out and a little chewy, and I've cooked them to where the loin meat was perfect, but the rib meat was tough, but I never could figure out how to get both done the way I wanted.

....but that's just me. Wink


I have to brine them in order to keep the loin moist.


Good idea....never thought of that.


My Local Kroger sells these from time to time for 2.99 a lb on sale.

But they are enhanced meat here. And thats a good price on them + I get good results for backyard bbq,( I buy them from time to time) BUT, I mostly buy the regular on sale spare ribs for about 1.79 a lb.



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PostPosted: Jan 20 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

3-pound baby-back ribs???????

Hmm, Considering a true baby-back rack is generally accepted as being 1.5-pounds & down.

False advertsing? Or complete ignorance?

He is selling 3-pound loin-back ribs, Same part of the pig, just from a much older pig and of course alot less tender and more fatty then a young pig that would render a true Baby-Back..
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I would call the 3 pounders' "fat backs" instead of baby backs.

The specific weights for the terminology has already been captured by others.

Just how big of a slaughter hog would be have to have to cut those 10 bones from?
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Harry Nutczak wrote:
He is selling 3-pound loin-back ribs, Same part of the pig, just from a much older pig and of course alot less tender and more fatty then a young pig that would render a true Baby-Back..


Hmmm....

http://www.askthemeatman.com/answers/answer_to_where_do_baby_back_rib.htm

http://www.smoker-cooking.com/smokedbabybackribs.html

http://www.theotherwhitemeat.com/aspx/all_about_pork/back_ribs.aspx

...don't think it has anything to do with the age of the pig.
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allsmokenofire wrote:
Harry Nutczak wrote:
He is selling 3-pound loin-back ribs, Same part of the pig, just from a much older pig and of course alot less tender and more fatty then a young pig that would render a true Baby-Back..


Hmmm....

http://www.askthemeatman.com/answers/answer_to_where_do_baby_back_rib.htm

http://www.smoker-cooking.com/smokedbabybackribs.html

http://www.theotherwhitemeat.com/aspx/all_about_pork/back_ribs.aspx

...don't think it has anything to do with the age of the pig.


Ok Einstein, is there some sort of miniture pig that the small racks come from then?

The younger the pig, the smaller it is, right? The smaller the pig from being younger also equates to a more tender pig. Right?

Therefore true baby-back ribs come from pigs that are younger in age & smaller in stature. it is not that they just cut the racks smaller, the ribs themselves are more small & tender.

The Term "Baby-Back" by it's true defenition is a rack that is 1.5 pounds or less. BUT! People some have perverted that term to insinuate that any back-loin ribs can be called baby-back's which is totally false.

Anything over 1.5 pounds is properly termed as "Loin-Back Ribs" and not a true baby-back rack.

Many unscrupulous business's started realizing that if they use the term baby-back on "Loin-back" ribs, they could command more money from the uneducated public. And it worked!
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Your half right and to somewhat on the right path. I cutup hundreds of pigs a year and the size of the pig has true say so on the name of the cut. The name of the cut is the same on all animal reguardles of weight. If this is what you think then is the chops on a small hog called pig chops and a larger hog called pork chops?No!! It is all merchandising because the name Baby back is more apealling than Loin back.
I will tell you from expierence that not all larger hogs are tough and not all small hogs are tender. So your thought their is not always true because their size isn't the only factor in tenderness. Just 1 factor but not alway the only factor.
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