What are the Judges looking for NEED INPUT PLZ!!!!!

lantern · Posted: Jan 19 2008 Post subject:

I think(hope) he meant that since the rub and sauce(coffee style) were not KC masterpiece style and taste that they were penalised for going their own way no matter how good they tasted. Wasn't what the judges were looking for. Seems "cook for the judges" would have been easier. Wink

That's as much dirt as I could find to help fill the hole that he dug. Laughing

BBQMAN · Posted: Jan 19 2008 Post subject:

I have addressed Michael's other thread with the below comments. Please take this as my formal apology for a misguided young lad.....................And while I truly understand that some of you might have found that comment offensive, rest assured that I do not share that same sentiment. SwineBucks was kind enough to include us in his team, and there is no more generous a guy that you will ever find. Needless to say, My Mike's behaviour that weekend was reprehensible, and that was discussed at length in my home this evening. Mike (my Mike, good grief there are a bunch of us Mike's here) will not be accompanying me this year. I'll be bringing my wife.

Just to be clear, I really did not think the comments Mike made about the Swinebucks team was appropriate. And just like anyone else, I called him on his comments.

But, unlike Mike, I had not intended to air those comments here.

Mike (Swinebucks), his family, and all of their friends made us all feel like family at MIM last year.

The fact that Mikes son Neil placed in the top half in ribs competing against some of the best teams in the country says a lot. And I would definitely consider that respectable in anyone's book.

Mike (my Mike) choose that weekend to have a very limited hands on experience, even though he had the opportunity to learn from some of the best teams around.

And sorry to say, but I don't apologize for being an equal opportunity offender.

I have a lot of respect for the good folks that compete and do well here, and for this forum in general.
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BBQMAN · Posted: Jan 19 2008 Post subject:

Just to set the record straight, Michael is a fine young man, and does a great job with our business.

The problem (for me) is he posted as part of my business, not as an individual.

I don't think Mike mean't his comments as a "flame", but of course that was how some of you (for good reason) might have taken it.

I myself have certainly "stepped in it" a few times myself here over the years! Laughing

If it wasn't for this forum, neither one of us would have had the opportunity to participate at MIM. And for that I am truly grateful.
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roxy · Posted: Jan 20 2008 Post subject:

Seems to me that the lad might have used some wrong words when he was refering to Swinbucks and their results at MIM. He also has limited experience in competition and that dont help much either in understanding how a huge event like that can be a crap shoot.

We need to cut him some slack and realize that we all make mistakes in judgement from time to time. I have in the past made more than my fair share of errors in judgement and will continue to do so I am sure. Just glad I was allowed to continue to be a part of this community of BBQ'ers after some of the things I have said and over reacted to... Embarassed

I think I understand what he meant by what he said as the sauce I entered in the Jack placed like 39th out of 80. I was disappionted as I hoped it would have done a lot better than it did but in hind sight 39th in that group of the worlds best is pretty darn good. Just took some time for the result to come into focus.

Maybe we can allow BBQProdigy (Mike's Mike) to make amends on his own and be the fine young man I am sure he is...

If he is anything like BBQMAN I am sure his experience and knowledge would be a welcome addition to this forum.
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DawgPhan · BBQ Super Pro Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 3444

Seems to me that the apple doesnt fall too far from the tree..

BBQMAN referring to my mustard sauce entry with that same Swinebucks team...Believe my mustard sauce finished in the top half at the world championships so I was happy with the finish...but imagine that BBQMAN and BBQBOY both dissing someone else's competition results.

BBQMAN · Posted: Jan 20 2008 Post subject:

Well Dawg, unfortunately it really didn't fare that well.

However, I didn't say that it wasn't respectable! Rolling Eyes

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allsmokenofire · Posted: Jan 20 2008 Post subject:

BBQMAN · Posted: Jan 20 2008 Post subject:

I don't see the double standard here Mike.

Swinebucks ribs did indeed have a "respectable" placing, not what had been mentioned.

And of course Dawgfan didn't post the entire thread that that quote came from, and in fact it did not fare that well.

I didn't say that the sauce was terrible, sucked, or wasn't respectable. Plane and simple it did not fare that well.

This is an apples/oranges comparison, and taken entirely out of context.

Take it, or leave it for what it's worth.

If you intend to use this thread to insult my integrity as well, have at it buddy! Very Happy

I tried to set this straight, evidently some of you are going to nitpick this one on a new level. Go right ahead if it makes ya feel any better. Very Happy

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allsmokenofire · Posted: Jan 20 2008 Post subject:

Smoke on the Horizon · Posted: Jan 20 2008 Post subject:

I just feel that the one that makes the posts should be the one that explains his or her reason for the post and has the opportunity to defend their statements and not you.

Let him talk he will learn just like the rest of us have that sometimes we say things that are a little hurtful or not completely correct but we learn from our mistakes and move on.

It will make a better person out of him to let him defend his own statements. I would like to see him on the forum with his knowledge and input.

He certainly has more experience in BBQ than I do and wanting to compete is a plus for all of us.
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OSoSlow · Posted: Jan 20 2008 Post subject:

AND, BY GOD, I just wish I was in St. Pete today instead of up here ! Wink

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